Ilhan Omar ex husband new family is beautiful

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

"but this right is forfeited if the woman remarries, because she will be distracted by her new husband from taking care of her child, and because there is a conflict of interest between the child and the new husband. Ibn al-Mundhir (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that there was scholarly consensus that the mother’s right to custody is forfeited if she remarries."

What are you complaining about? Divorce is not always due to men falling short.

You said you'd rather see your child dead than to see your child in the arms of their step-father. What kind of bullshit is that? Guess what? If you get divorced, your children will probably end up with a bonus Aabbo, same way your children will get a bonus hooyo. That's life, grow up please.

 

[DubatDiaries]

"One of the matters on which there is scholarly consensus is that the woman is more entitled to custody of the child so long as he has not reached the age of discernment, as the child at that stage needs the kind of compassion and care that only women can give, but this right is forfeited if the woman remarries, because she will be distracted by her new husband from taking care of her child, and because there is a conflict of interest between the child and the new husband. Ibn al-Mundhir (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that there was scholarly consensus that the mother’s right to custody is forfeited if she remarries."

I don't disagree with this. I believe we should be giving men custody of children much more than we are now. It takes the burden off of women. Being a single mother is like catapulting yourself into near poverty. As a culture, this is rarely practiced and Somali men seem to be perfectly fine with leaving their kids with the mother. Would it be better if Ilhan stayed single?

For a stranger to have his arms around my daughter and my other daughter not being a modest practicing Salafi daughter, what greater tragedy than this? I would prefer the death of my child than that to happen. At least we going to reunite in Jannah.

ummm... i get the passion, but let's chill out a bit.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I don't disagree with this. I believe we should be giving men custody of children much more than we are now. It takes the burden off of women. Being a single mother is like catapulting yourself into near poverty. As a culture, this is rarely practiced and Somali men seem to be perfectly fine with leaving their kids with the mother. Would it be better if Ilhan stayed single?

ummm... i get the passion, but let's chill out a bit.

I agree with that.

But if women demanded that the husband takes the children upon divorce, these men would run away screaming because this is not about love for the children, it's about control and trying to ruin their ex-wives' lives.

 

[DubatDiaries]

I agree with that.

But if women demanded that the husband takes the children upon divorce, these men would run away screaming because this is not about love for the children, it's about control and trying to ruin their ex-wives' lives.

I swear... they'd rather see the mother of their kids rafaad on her own. Ive never seen a somali man complain of custody loll

 

[Angelina]

"One of the matters on which there is scholarly consensus is that the woman is more entitled to custody of the child so long as he has not reached the age of discernment, as the child at that stage needs the kind of compassion and care that only women can give, but this right is forfeited if the woman remarries, because she will be distracted by her new husband from taking care of her child, and because there is a conflict of interest between the child and the new husband. Ibn al-Mundhir (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that there was scholarly consensus that the mother’s right to custody is forfeited if she remarries."
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20473/question-about-custody-of-children

For a stranger to have his arms around my daughter and my other daughter not being a modest practicing Salafi daughter, what greater tragedy than this? I would prefer the death of my child than that to happen. At least we going to reunite in Jannah.

Firstly, whilst the father has more rights in Islam after the mother’s re-marriage, It isn’t set in stone as the father can decide he doesn’t want to take on the custody.

There is nothing in Islam to suggest that parents can’t come up with their own arrangements. In many cases fathers simply prefer the mother keeps the kids and that is halal.

Also, some scholars such as Ibn Hazim believed the mother has more rights to custody with many others believing that custody instead goes to the Grandmother, the mothers mother. Hence, it’s a lot more complicated. In fact, the Hanafis, Shafis and Malikis believe it’s mother to grandmother, the mother’s mother. That is why in Somali culture, you see grandmothers raising kids a lot.

Secondly, step-fathers in Islam are not ‘strange’, they actually become Mahram to the daughters/kids of a woman. Therefore, Islamically you’re wrong. A step father having his arms around his Mahram step-daughter isn’t haram. I don’t know why you’re positioning it in that way. In fact, he is allowed to take her to Umrah, hajj ect as he is her Mahram.

 

[Abu Hesi]

Does every thread have to turn into gender war? General section is so predictable and boring.

 

[Angelina]

I agree with that.

But if women demanded that the husband takes the children upon divorce, these men would run away screaming because this is not about love for the children, it's about control and trying to ruin their ex-wives' lives.

The whole taking the kids isn’t even set in stone. Shafi which is what Somalis are believe that upon remarriage the kids go to grandmother, the mothers mother anyway. Even the Malikis and Hanafis believe that. It’s mother to grandmother most of the time .

Secondly, Jared’s weird rant about stepfathers being strange men is just weird as Islamically they actually become the Mahrams of their step kids. Hence, I don’t underhand why he is acting like they’re seen as completely distant in Islam.

 

[Calaami]

He’s been cheating on her for years and would flirt with young Somali girls online. The guy is a creep and I’m glad Ilhan has moved on!

You’re onto something, I remember an IntegrationTV ep he was getting a lil too flirty at Hodan Nalayeh AUN

 

[DubatDiaries]

Does every thread have to turn into gender war? General section is so predictable and boring.

I apologize Abu Hesi. I'll make sure to never disagree with a man again in my life.

 

[Angelina]

I agree with that.

But if women demanded that the husband takes the children upon divorce, these men would run away screaming because this is not about love for the children, it's about control and trying to ruin their ex-wives' lives.

Lol, they would and if you notice that when they do try to take custody, they don’t even look after their kid. Usually it’s a grandmother, his mum or his ex’s mum that takes the kids. Tbh, Somalis being Shafi, if a woman remarries, the kids go to a woman’s mother and if she isn’t available then the paternal grandmother. You find that belief in 3 madhabs, in fact I think even some Hanbalis believe that as well. I think scholars of old knew that young kids, are better off with women regardless and after the mother, who would care for a child better than the mother’s mother?

 

[TekNiKo]

"One of the matters on which there is scholarly consensus is that the woman is more entitled to custody of the child so long as he has not reached the age of discernment, as the child at that stage needs the kind of compassion and care that only women can give, but this right is forfeited if the woman remarries, because she will be distracted by her new husband from taking care of her child, and because there is a conflict of interest between the child and the new husband. Ibn al-Mundhir (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that there was scholarly consensus that the mother’s right to custody is forfeited if she remarries."
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20473/question-about-custody-of-children

For a stranger to have his arms around my daughter and my other daughter not being a modest practicing Salafi daughter, what greater tragedy than this? I would prefer the death of my child than that to happen. At least we going to reunite in Jannah.

Its very dangerous and we know many sexual molesting cases are from ex wives being negligent with their ex’s children and allowing them too intermingle with a foreign man. Its the great wisdom of Islam too allow the father to take the children to a neutral household like his grandmother…

 

[Angelina]

Its very dangerous and we know many sexual molesting cases are from ex wives being negligent with their ex’s children and allowing them too intermingle with a foreign man. Its the great wisdom of Islam too allow the father to take the children to a neutral household like his grandmother…

In Islam, a step father isn’t ‘foreign’, he actually becomes a Mahram. I don’t know where you lot are getting the idea that he can’t mix with his step kids. He is even legally allowed to take them to hajj and behave like any Mahram such as an uncle, grandfather, brother ect. A stepfather also becomes the Mahram not just to his step-daughters but also his step-grandkids. Very ajeeb for you to behave that a step father is this non Mahram man that can’t mix with his step-kids.

I wouldn’t go as far as saying it’s very dangerous as in that case your stereotyping your own gender. Are we going to argue that ALL men are sexual predators. Really?

 

[Ladylike]

I don’t understand what this is trying to imply. People get divorced all the time. Move on.

 

[Dooyo]

I think Ilhan's kids are the first Somalis in history to have a Jewish step-brother. That's pretty cool. Hopefully, he can hook them up with that Jewish knowledge and wealth lol.

 

[Magan95]

I swear to God that whoever Somali ends up marrying you has made a fatal mistake, he gonna be cucked when his beautiful Somali children end up on the lap of his ex-wife's husband. The tragedy is worse than the shoah.
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You are a fool, I want to get a hold of your brain and do some research on it, you must be missing your frontal lobe.

One of the matters on which there is scholarly consensus is that the woman is more entitled to custody of the child so long as he has not reached the age of discernment, as the child at that stage needs the kind of compassion and care that only women can give, but this right is forfeited if the woman remarries, because she will be distracted by her new husband from taking care of her child, and because there is a conflict of interest between the child and the new husband. Ibn al-Mundhir (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated that there was scholarly consensus that the mother’s right to custody is forfeited if she remarries.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20473/question-about-custody-of-children

here you go you uneducated creature

You are seriously unhinged.
Because of some "scholars" deciding that women will get distracted by a new husband the ex should have custody? Keep in mind there isn't always a consensus between scholars as well.

Get out of here. Any woman that falls for that bull is basically giving her rights away. I dislike it when some of you try to use religion to abuse and control women. There's a reason why the Western world is the best at championing women's rights currently...

 

[Keep it a boqol]

You’re onto something, I remember an IntegrationTV ep he was getting a lil too flirty at Hodan Nalayeh AUN

Hodan Nalayeh AUN was a certified dime. May Allah give her janah firdaus

 

[Angelina]

You are seriously unhinged.
Because of some "scholars" deciding that women will get distracted by a new husband the ex should have custody? Keep in mind there isn't always a consensus between scholars as well.

Get out of here. Any woman that falls for that bull is basically giving her rights away. I dislike it when some of you try to use religion to abuse and control women. There's a reason why the Western world is the best at championing women's rights currently...

He is one weird man. But Yes, many scholars believe that a woman forfeites custody but that is only if the father contests it. In Islam, people are free to come up with their own arrangements, which this fatwa states:

All of this, of course, is if the matter is taken to the courts, or both parents want custody of the child. There is no harm, however, in different living arrangements being made if the parents, grandmothers and other women-folk who have right to custody after the mother do not object and amiably agree thereto.

Who Gets Custody of the Children After a Divorce?

Answered by Shaykh Talal al-Azem Question I have read somewhere that in case of a divorce, the mother gets custody of the children, she has custody of a male child until the age of 9 and of a female child until the girl gets married. The exception to the rule is if the mother remarries, […]

seekersguidance.org

Therefore that Jared kids rant is weird. How does he know that Ilhan’s ex doesn’t want Ilhan to have custody? Especially when we know that Islamically, the issue isn’t black and white and most madhabs believe that even if he was to contest it, it would go to the grandmother? Since when do Somali men want full custody? Most will find it hard working and raising the kids and one of the reasons why Somali men are able to remarry upon divorce very quickly is because they don’t have custody, hence it’s easier to attract a woman when you have that freedom.

Furthermore, I also found his weird rant about stepfathers to be ‘foreign’ very ajeeb. Since when are step-fathers presented as foreign in the Sharia?! Look at his use of the word ‘cucked’! So a stepfather being around your kids makes you cucked? All of this corn is frying men’s brains, to such an extent that that vile lingo is being used causally and openly. Even his emphasis on the daughter having her arms around her Mahram stepfather is just weird. Why do they try and sexualize everything? Authobillah, this is pure mental illness.

The issue is that we have self-righteous young men who aren’t the most knowledgeable commenting on every situation and then insulting people in the process. These young men have also been exposed to corn culture even if they haven’t watched it themselves as everything is about being ‘cucked’ and they’ll sexualize the most random of things. Absolute degenerates. It’s scary.

 

[Basra]

Why do u pick such an unflattering photo? U r petty, and messy! LOL

 

[Aurelian]

Ilhan Omar ex

His name his Ahmed Hirsi, I think he works for HSM as some kind of advisor. Dude securing baddies left and right

He was once introduced as "The ex husband of Ilhan Omar", literllay everyone knows him as such.

 

[Aurelian]

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