Is Every Qabiil It’s Own Ethnic Group?
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No it was more like each clan was operating like kingdom or country.
Chaseyourdreamzz
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Colonial propaganda imagine thinking all these tribes are ethnic groups when they have the same language culture and religion
No i think he only represented the strongest clan.
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Garaad Awal
Zubeyri aka Targaryen of the Awalid Kingdom.
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Dooyo
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The main argument against Somaliland succession is that there’s no reason for a group of people that are mostly of one ethnic group, similar culture, same deen, a “homogenous” group should split apart into different nations. It’s the reason why Somali irredentism exists. Bringing back shanta Soomaaliyeed under one Somali nation. If ethnicity is a merely social construct, couldn’t it be said that each individual qabiil is its own ethnic group?
We never were a united people group, ever in history, even before coloniaization. Why force people under the Somali flag now?
We never were a united people group, ever in history, even before coloniaization. Why force people under the Somali flag now?
How many ethnic groups have always been united? there were united by someone at some point in history.
Neither were Germans and Italians until the 19th century. Unification was always bound to happen
Dooyo
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The Italians (or the people who inhabit Italy, they were under different names at times) were united under the same banner many times in history. Somalis weren’t.
The first written example of the term ‘Italians’ being used was around 1353, this term was probably used even earlier than that.
Anyways, the Italians are a very genetically diverse people. They could also very well not be considered a single ethnic group.
This argument would make sense if there wasn't a Switzerland and Austria to debunk this
Adal Sultanate was Darod and Dir led so there have been times when different Somali clans have cooperated together and United under a common cause.
Somaliweyn just means Daroodweyn with Dir cooperation, no one cares about failed rump states in xamar and Hargeisa, Al Darodiya sultanate will still be the largest nation in the horn with the addition of Ogaden and NFD and jubaland
Lol no they weren't. While the concept of Italy has been in existence since Roman times, the idea of a sovereign Italian state wasn't a thing until the 19th century. Italy for most of its history consisted of various city states, kingdoms, duchies, fiefdoms ect, just like Somalia. However unlike Somalia, parts of Italy were even ruled by different cultures (Germans, Spaniards, Byzantines, Arabs).
And the first usage of "Somali" was in the 15th century, even earlier if we go by Chinese records.
And yet they were able to unite anyways. I don't even need to bring up Europeans, look at Africa. Many countries are literally a mashup of ethnicites that never had a state together. For example, Maasai, Kikuyukus, Luos, and Swahilis have never shared a state or civilization until Kenya.
Both nations despite being heavily Italian and German are genuinely distinct entities with their own culture and history that developed over the course of thousands of years. They predate the idea of a German or Italian nation state. Qabils have no such differences nor developed so. All Somalis are nearly identical.
Whether or not that is true, it has to be accepted. Countries are usually united by one group dominating the rest, its a perfectly natural thing. Its insane to want this Darod-Hawiye shitfest to continue all because you don't want your sub sub sub clan being ruled by Darods or Hawiye.
Dooyo
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Chaseyourdreamzz
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That map is not accurate
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