Is Somaliland Project Joke of the Decade

It all depends on what you think the project is. I don’t think they’re very serious about recognition personally.

Seceding from Somalia has allowed them to have better relations with foreign countries and they can act more independently of the FGS than other regions can.
That’s true. If they wanted to actually secede they would have called themselves North Somalia in 1990. That would be quicker.
 
There's a state and govt institutions that keep the stability in SL while in Somalia there's no avtual govt or state and even institutions as all of that only exists on a paper
I asked about other clan fiefdoms not the FGS. Are you claiming that there is no state/stability/institutions in Puntland?

What does Somaliland offer its citizens beyond stability which other clanstates clearly do offer? better healthcare, education, job opportunities ? Is life that different for a somali who lives in Hargeysa vs one who lives in Garoowe or Galkacyo?

Also if the institutions in SL are so good they could’ve avoided a whole clanwar & been able to hold on to the eastern part of Sool and Sanaag, no?
 
I asked about other clan fiefdoms not the FGS. Are you claiming that there is no state/stability/institutions in Puntland?

What does Somaliland offer its citizens beyond stability which other clanstates clearly do offer? better healthcare, education, job opportunities ? Is life that different for a somali who lives in Hargeysa vs one who lives in Garoowe or Galkacyo?
There's no stability or state institution in PL where its armed men are all clan militias just look at 2 years ago conflict in Garrowe and Bosasso and the last such thing as that happened in Hargeisa or Burco was 30 years ago :)

Also if the institutions in SL are so good they could’ve avoided a whole clanwar & been able to hold on to the eastern part of Sool and Sanaag, no?
There has been no "clan war" in Laascanood as it was purely a political one between the locals and the state which the people from there didn't want it to be in their land.
 
There's no stability or state institution in PL where its armed men are all clan militias just look at 2 years ago conflict in Garrowe and Bosasso and the last such thing as that happened in Hargeisa or Burco was 30 years ago :)


There has been no "clan war" in Laascanood as it was purely a political one between the locals and the state which the people from there didn't want it to be in their land.
Why did they not want SL to be on their land?
political & economic grievances, unsolved murders & the killings of unarmed protesters during the 15 years Somaliland was in Lascanood led to an almost one year long conflict in the eastern part of your ”country”. Ending in thousands of deaths, your army/state being expelled from large parts of ”it’s” territory. How is that stable?

Good governance could’ve prevented that. Strong institutions could’ve prevented that.
 
Why did they not want SL to be on their land?
political & economic grievances, unsolved murders & the killings of unarmed protesters during the 15 years Somaliland was in Lascanood led to an almost one year long conflict in the eastern part of your ”country”. Ending in thousands of deaths, your army/state being expelled from large parts of ”it’s” territory. How is that stable?

Good governance could’ve prevented that. Strong institutions could’ve prevented that.
Murders and crimes were did by local gangs who were protected or given shelter in the city and Somaliland state presence in Laascanood district wasn't a full one as still elders ran that place as they were the ones who invited SL authorities into the city in 2007 when their leaders had political dispute with PL and not the people choosing to be part of SL. That's the truth.
 
Your profile pic of a gender confused tranny is more of a joke.

Somaliland shouldn't exist, but it does because somalia doesn't.

The biggest joke of the CENTURY is how you claim somaliland is yours yet since Barre you haven't owned shit 🤷‍♂️
Somaliland literally relies on the foreign aid given to the FGS
 

Khaem

Früher of the Djibouti Ugaasate 🇩🇯
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If landers were a serious people they'd go the route of puntland and try twist the arm of Xamar to allow them devolution. Larping as an independent state obviously got you nowhere for 30+ years. You have to be mentally retarded to think the situation is somehow gonna change.

If there was a chance for sland to be independent it was the 90s. Now the west has poured billions into the legitimacy of the FGS there is literally no hope. China is a superpower but they're isolationist and have shown support for the fgs. As does Turkey which is a regional power.

Ethiopia Is a 4th world shithole with starving medieval peasants and genocides every 4 years. To consider them as your gateway to statehood is embarrassment on another level walahi.

It's like them man in balkans who keep commenting under every post of Hagia sofia Mosque tweaking over Islamic rule:

'Constantinople 2025 🇬🇷☦️"
"Somaliland 2025 🟩🔳🟥🤜🤜🤜🐒🐒🐒🇸🇴"
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If landers were a serious people they'd go the route of puntland and try twist the arm of Xamar to allow them devolution. Larping as an independent state obviously got you nowhere for 30+ years. You have to be mentally retarded to think the situation is somehow gonna change.

If there was a chance for sland to be independent it was the 90s. Now the west has poured billions into the legitimacy of the FGS there is literally no hope. China is a superpower but they're isolationist and have shown support for the fgs. As does Turkey which is a regional power.

Ethiopia Is a 4th world shithole with starving medieval peasants and genocides every 4 years. To consider them as your gateway to statehood is embarrassment on another level walahi.

It's like them man in balkans who keep commenting under every post of Hagia sofia Mosque tweaking over Islamic rule:

'Constantinople 2025 🇬🇷☦️"
"Somaliland 2025 🟩🔳🟥🤜🤜🤜🐒🐒🐒🇸🇴"
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Somaliland's government is really dumb. How hard could it been for them to bribe the Hawiye leadership for recognition? They had zero stake in Somaliland until now.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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If landers were a serious people they'd go the route of puntland and try twist the arm of Xamar to allow them devolution. Larping as an independent state obviously got you nowhere for 30+ years. You have to be mentally retarded to think the situation is somehow gonna change.

If there was a chance for sland to be independent it was the 90s. Now the west has poured billions into the legitimacy of the FGS there is literally no hope. China is a superpower but they're isolationist and have shown support for the fgs. As does Turkey which is a regional power.

Ethiopia Is a 4th world shithole with starving medieval peasants and genocides every 4 years. To consider them as your gateway to statehood is embarrassment on another level walahi.

It's like them man in balkans who keep commenting under every post of Hagia sofia Mosque tweaking over Islamic rule:

'Constantinople 2025 🇬🇷☦️"
"Somaliland 2025 🟩🔳🟥🤜🤜🤜🐒🐒🐒🇸🇴"
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The problem in SL is Isaaq noone else the rest is just distractions. Has it crossed your mind the current status quo and strategy of somaliland is what they want? If they get independence HY will.launch a civil war, if they don't get it Habar Awal.will, so being a fictious country actually kept their issue from ending up like South Sudan.

I am.pretty sure wadani will.also keep the status quo but obviously bit by but push it towards HY benefit without raising eyebrows of habar awal. Habar awal n HJ were also doing things bit by bit to undermine Mogadishu and make it less attractive to HY and I'm sure Cirro will do the same.policy to undermine jeegaanism which is secession, it's how he delivers and executes it his HY agenda without state collapse will be his measure of leadership and of course how long he stays in power.

Untill Isaaq solve their issue without having it spill.over to Somalis, no somali feels threatened by either HY or Habar Awal.
 
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Keo

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Because there's nothing that really distinguishes Somalilanders from other Somalis.

Same language
Same ethnic group
Same religion
Same culture

The only real difference is dialect.

There are no two countries in the world that tick all 4 of these boxes, and very few that tick 2 or 3 of them.
 
Then stay in political limbo then lol. There will be no legal protection for you when Somalia reasserts control over Somaliland.
Political limbo is in Xamar not in our end and everyone in the world knows that Somaliland is a sperate independent self governing entity where Xamar has no say in it.

It's just a matter of time when walanweyns would wakeup from their fantasy world dream they're on now and recognize the reality on the ground that the Somaliland has been out from their hands for over 33 years now more than it was under Xamar rule which was from 1960 to 1991.
 
If landers were a serious people they'd go the route of puntland and try twist the arm of Xamar to allow them devolution. Larping as an independent state obviously got you nowhere for 30+ years. You have to be mentally retarded to think the situation is somehow gonna change.

If there was a chance for sland to be independent it was the 90s. Now the west has poured billions into the legitimacy of the FGS there is literally no hope. China is a superpower but they're isolationist and have shown support for the fgs. As does Turkey which is a regional power.

Ethiopia Is a 4th world shithole with starving medieval peasants and genocides every 4 years. To consider them as your gateway to statehood is embarrassment on another level walahi.

It's like them man in balkans who keep commenting under every post of Hagia sofia Mosque tweaking over Islamic rule:

'Constantinople 2025 🇬🇷☦️"
"Somaliland 2025 🟩🔳🟥🤜🤜🤜🐒🐒🐒🇸🇴"
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If Somaliland isn't independent as you Djiboutian boy say so, then how come Somalia's institutions don't work in Hargeisa or how come the flag is not flying in that place especially the border Checkpoints with Ethiopia and Djibouti ?? :)

Since you're very ignoirant about our history for trhe past 30 years or so for first being a Djiboutian and 2nd a kid born in mid 2000s, let me tell you that the nation of Somaliland is older than the current so called "Federal" regime that was founded in Arteh Djibouti 24 years ago in which Somaliland rightfully didn't take part in that garbage so called conference that legalized and introduced clannism into the political system, so yeah we better off not being part of it or "twist the arm of Xamar" as qashin politics isn't our thing kid :)

Somaliland ain't coming back to so called "Somalia" so you people need to let go off that dream :trumpsmirk:

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Because there's nothing that really distinguishes Somalilanders from other Somalis.

Same language
Same ethnic group
Same religion
Same culture

The only real difference is dialect.

There are no two countries in the world that tick all 4 of these boxes, and very few that tick 2 or 3 of them.
Hey checkout what this hooyo mataalo kid waffling about

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Khaem

Früher of the Djibouti Ugaasate 🇩🇯
VIP
If Somaliland isn't independent as you Djiboutian boy say so, then how come Somalia's institutions don't work in Hargeisa or how come the flag is not flying in that place especially the border Checkpoints with Ethiopia and Djibouti ?? :)

Since you're very ignoirant about our history for trhe past 30 years or so for first being a Djiboutian and 2nd a kid born in mid 2000s, let me tell you that the nation of Somaliland is older than the current so called "Federal" regime that was founded in Arteh Djibouti 24 years ago in which Somaliland rightfully didn't take part in that garbage so called conference that legalized and introduced clannism into the political system, so yeah we better off not being part of it or "twist the arm of Xamar" as qashin politics isn't our thing kid :)

Somaliland ain't coming back to so called "Somalia" so you people need to let go off that dream :trumpsmirk:

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Are you trying to say somaliland is independent 🤣🤣

Where is your recognition? Where Is your flag?
 
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