Is Somaliland similar to Scotland in the way it's a constituent country within the UK?

[Bo$$man]

If that means nothing (neighbors and family structures) then I don't know what connects people more.

In my case my mother is dhul, my dads mother is dhul, I'm married to dhul, and before my married, when the closest male family members went to her father all of the 8 men had a mother that was dhul from different subclans.

And I can guarantee you, that is the case for many of the HJ subclans living in proximity to the dhulbahante.

I get what you mean. My maternal lineage is Aden madoobe for at least 3 generations so of course I feel more close to HJ than MJ. However this isn't the case for all Dhulbahante.

 

[fais]

Dhulbahante iyo Habar Jeclo you guys have love and hate relationship

Totally, it's like they meet for a meher and laugh together, have a great time and a couple of week later, "he drank from my water place, I'm gonna kill him"

 

[Gantaal97]

Golan Heights is regarded as Syrian by almost everyone, Crimea is regarded as Ukrainian by nearly everyone and Somaliland is regarded as Somalia's by everyone.

When you're a nation-state it's easier for there to be leeway. Hence why Somalia is sometimes regarded as a sovereign state.

But when you're attempting to assume the position of a nation-state like SL, it's a much different story.

We're a nation state that's capable to provide what its citizens need more than what the so called govt in Xamar can with its citizens.

 

[fais]

I get what you mean. My maternal lineage is Aden madoobe for at least 3 generations so of course

Thats funny I'm Adan Madobe, are you khalid? my mom is Khalid but my wife is Maxamud Ugaas and her mom, ilaahi ha u naxariisto, was Hassan Ugaas reer Boocame.

Dhulbahante has basically given birth to all of Adan Madobe, it's feels likes.

 

[Periplus]

We're a nation state that's capable to provide what its citizens need more than what the so called govt in Xamar can with its citizens.

No one is denying SL can provide for more of their people than Xamar can.

The problem is with the words nation-state and citizens, and whether SL qualifies.

Not saying it is not unfair but the international governance system is anarchial, meaning there's no guarantee of justice or equal treatment for any entity wanting to become a state actor.

 

[Bo$$man]

Thats funny I'm Adan Madobe, are you khalid? my mom is Khalid but my wife is Maxamud Ugaas and her mom, ilaahi ha u naxariisto, was Hassan Ugaas reer Boocame.

Dhulbahante has basically given birth to all of Adan Madobe, it's feels likes.

No I’m Barkad. In widhwidh and balicad there is a lot of intermarriage with Aden madoobe. Nomads from the region got along I guess lol.

 

[Aden22]

If that means nothing (neighbors and family structures) then I don't know what connects people more.

In my case my mother is dhul, my dads mother is dhul, I'm married to dhul, and before my married, when the closest male family members went to her father all of the 8 men had a mother that was dhul from different subclans.

And I can guarantee you, that is the case for many of the HJ subclans living in proximity to the dhulbahante.

What sub is your Reer Abti bro

 

[fais]

What sub is your Reer Abti bro

Dulbahante - Khaalid - reer aw khayre bro...

 

[Juke]

As a dhulbahante I would rather have no political representation whatsoever in puntland than be president of somaliland. Funny seeing isaaqs discuss about who my clan is closer to.

Their point doesn't make much sense. All the vice-presidents in Puntland have been Dhulbahante.

 

[BigBreak]

@Periplus you are basing your argument on the constitutive theory of statehood whilst those of us who argue my country SL is an independent country base our argument on the declarative theory of statehood

 

[reer]

@Periplus you are basing your argument on the constitutive theory of statehood whilst those of us who argue my country SL is an independent country base our argument on the declarative theory of statehood

taliban now control more of their claimed territory than sl despite sl getting a 5 year headstart and no invasion.

 

[fais]

taliban now control more of their claimed territory than sl despite sl getting a 5 year headstart and no invasion.

There is no correlation between Taliban and Somaliland, they gained their control through brutal slaughter of people and intimidation, the people of Somaliland are one big family, all disagreements and problems will be resolved in a peaceful way and soon the little reaming areas will come under full control.

 

[Helios]

No it hasn’t died out. Gaelic is still spoken there, especially north Scotland. A lot of the land marks, sign posts and billboards etc are in English as well as Gaelic.

It's more or less dead bro Scotland has 5.5 million inhabitants so just look at that

 

[reer]

There is no correlation between Taliban and Somaliland, they gained their control through brutal slaughter of people and intimidation, the people of Somaliland are one big family, all disagreements and problems will be resolved in a peaceful way and soon the little reaming areas will come under full control.

the world on respects strength not on how good you are at negotiatians. sl only gets respect through brute strength and nothing less. taliban have been more effective than any of the sl presidents in asserting sovereignty. brutality and human rights are irrelevant.

 

[fais]

the world on respects strength not on how good you are at negotiatians. sl only gets respect through brute strength and nothing less. taliban have been more effective than any of the sl presidents in asserting sovereignty. brutality and human rights are irrelevant.

 

[reer]

its true. if you have brute force beesha caalamka will negotiate. if you say bliis recognize us we are demokratik they spit in your face.

 

[fais]

its true. if you have brute force beesha caalamka will negotiate. if you say bliis recognize us we are demokratik they spit in your face.

Naaah bro, I don't believe that and in Somaliland's case everybody is related it doesn't make sense to bash the head of your own family to get what you want.

 

[reer]

Naaah bro, I don't believe that and in Somaliland's case everybody is related it doesn't make scene to bash the head of your own family to get what you want.

workd for ho chi minh.
worked for mao zedong.
worled for eritrea.

 

[Caaro]

Say that in Sool and you would get laugh at

I’m in sool rn, how much would you like to bet on that?

What’s with you guys and making stuff up

 

[Caaro]

workd for ho chi minh.
worked for mao zedong.
worled for eritrea.

there are already plans and debate on whether the taliban government will be recognized as the official government of afghanistan.

There has been 0 debates by the IC to recognize SL lmao. Shows that the taliban have done more to become recognized in the last week than Somalianlanders have done in the past 30 years.