Is Somaliland similar to Scotland in the way it's a constituent country within the UK?

[Helios]

workd for ho chi minh.
worked for mao zedong.
worled for eritrea.

- Ho Chi Minh led a pre-existing country (North Vietnam) aided by outsiders

- Mao waited for Chang Kai Shek to tire his forces out against Japan and was aided heavily by the USSR

- Eritrea is led by Orthodox gaalo and had been fighting since 1961 and had the TPLF and OLF as allies

- The Taliban's predecessors were armed to the teeth by the US to clean out the Russians

SL has never had any comparable arms influx or degree of foreign backing compared to any of these 4 above nor was our aim initially to even leave Somalia.

 

[Gantaal97]

I’m in sool rn, how much would you like to bet on that?

What’s with you guys and making stuff up

Please don't say you guys love beesha Dhabayaco

 

[Gantaal97]

there are already plans and debate on whether the taliban government will be recognized as the official government of afghanistan.

There has been 0 debates by the IC to recognize SL lmao. Shows that the taliban have done more to become recognized in the last week than Somalianlanders have done in the past 30 years.

Idiotic comparison Taliban wasn't fighting to establish its own nation but to rule all of Afghanistan and the recognition you are talking about is legitimacy of new Afghan govt or regime

 

[reer]

- Ho Chi Minh led a pre-existing country (North Vietnam) aided by outsiders

- Mao waited for Chang Kai Shek to tire his forces out against Japan and was aided heavily by the USSR

- Eritrea is led by Orthodox gaalo and had been fighting since 1961 and had the TPLF and OLF as allies

- The Taliban's predecessors were armed to the teeth by the US to clean out the Russians

SL has never had any comparable arms influx or degree of foreign backing compared to any of these 4 above nor was our aim initially to even leave Somalia.

bro what im trying to say s ictiraaf is for those who forcefully sieze it and make chaos carnage and war which bring beesha caalamka to the negotiating table. you have to take the initiative.

 

[BigBreak]

@reer we will see decisive movement regarding the SL question only when IMO your country Somalia recovers and has its central government exert supreme control over all of the ex Italian colony

 

[0117]

I’m in sool rn, how much would you like to bet on that?

What’s with you guys and making stuff up

Did you feed the soldiers, today bro?

 

[Gantaal97]

- Ho Chi Minh led a pre-existing country (North Vietnam) aided by outsiders

- Mao waited for Chang Kai Shek to tire his forces out against Japan and was aided heavily by the USSR

- Eritrea is led by Orthodox gaalo and had been fighting since 1961 and had the TPLF and OLF as allies

- The Taliban's predecessors were armed to the teeth by the US to clean out the Russians

SL has never had any comparable arms influx or degree of foreign backing compared to any of these 4 above nor was our aim initially to even leave Somalia.

Slight correction Eritrea independent movement was first led by Muslim community who founded ELF or Eritrean Liberation Front and start the war of independence only after a fracture in ELF group where highland Christians and few Muslims who were communist founded EPLF which overtook the ELF in the war

 

[Afro Asiatic]

Somaliland has its own currency and separate government institution. There is no desire whatsoever for a federal style reunification with Somaliweyn.

Scottish independence is polling 50/50.

You think the world will recognize your fairytale clan enclave? Put down the khat.

 

[Afro Asiatic]

Slight correction Eritrea independent movement was first led by Muslim community who founded ELF or Eritrean Liberation Front and start the war of independence only after a fracture in ELF group where highland Christians and few Muslims who were communist founded EPLF which overtook the ELF in the war

This is true. Eritrean independence movement was hijacked by Highlanders

 

[Gantaal97]

You think the world will recognize your fairytale clan enclave? Put down the khat.

Your failed state is based on qabayaled with each major qabil having a state for themselves while in JSL there's no such having as everyone are equal under the law our first elected president was a Gadabursi who defeated 2 isaaqs in 2003 elections and our current House of Representative speaker is Dhulbahante elected from Sool region

 

[Afro Asiatic]

Your failed state is based on qabayaled with each major qabil having a state for themselves while in JSL there's no such having as everyone are equal under the law our first elected president was a Gadabursi who defeated 2 isaaqs in 2003 elections and our current House of Representative speaker is Dhulbahante elected from Sool region

-Fairytale state/Clan enclave built on hatred towards south/MJ

-Screamed for independence for over 30 years with nothing to show but piles of garbage in de facto capital

-Continuously bribing with US dollars and pitting subclans against each other

-meanwhile xamar is rising from ashes after 30 years of chaos.

what have you accomplished in 30 years??

 

[Gantaal97]

-Fairytale state/Clan enclave built on hatred towards south/MJ

-Screamed for independence for over 30 years with nothing to show but piles of garbage in de facto capital

-Continuously bribing with US dollars and pitting subclans against each other

-meanwhile xamar is rising from ashes after 30 years of chaos.

what have you accomplished in 30 years??

Let tell me what we have accomplished more than your failed hell hole nation.
1. Stability where our people came together and held dozens of shir or conferences to bring an end to violence and establish a state with our own hands without any foreign interventions unlike in Somalia.

2. We wrote our own constitution again without any foreign oversight just by our people and elders and put it to people in vote where majority voted yes for the implementation of the constitution.

3. Democracy Somaliland is the one of the few African countries with free and fair elections where we had 6 successful elections without any dispute or violence unlike your neighborhing countries who are autocratic regimes and we elected 3 presidents where there was peaceful transition of power and recently we had our local and parliamentary elections where the opposition have won both of the elections and Barkhad Batuun who's from marginalized Gabooye community getting most of the votes than any MP that will never happen in your Somalia.

4. Economy Somaliland economy has improved a lot with investments coming from the community to build roads schools and the govt budget has increased from $70 million dollars to $200 million dollars and it's expected to continue to increase especially with modernization of Berbera port by DP World making it one of the most important ports in Africa and the DP World investment that will come out from the port