You do know the lady who authored this book is married to a Puntite right? Compagnon has 0 ties to any clan btw.
Isaaq genocide narrative
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And? Barre's clan wasn't from Puntland lol
You brought out a source that believed that Morgan’s letter was fake. That lady’s writings can’t be taken as 100% truth considering she is married to one of Morgan’s clansmen. Why are you deflecting onto Siad lmfao
A genocide is an act committed with the intent to wipe out a particular group, even within inter-ethnic conflicts. In the latter part of his rule, Siad Barre's intentions became clear: he sought to eliminate certain clans and replace them with clans more loyal to him.
Unionism that relies on denial is misguided, yet modern Somali historical discussions often devolve into blame games. I remember when @Itsnotthateasy vehemently denied the systemic violence committed by the SNM against the Gadabuursi.
These conversations feel disingenuous, as people change their stance depending on the topic. When discussing the mass killings by the USC upon entering Mogadishu, or Morgan's atrocities against the Raxanweyn, the narrative quickly shifts to either exaggerate or downplay the events to fit a particular agenda.
Unionism that relies on denial is misguided, yet modern Somali historical discussions often devolve into blame games. I remember when @Itsnotthateasy vehemently denied the systemic violence committed by the SNM against the Gadabuursi.
These conversations feel disingenuous, as people change their stance depending on the topic. When discussing the mass killings by the USC upon entering Mogadishu, or Morgan's atrocities against the Raxanweyn, the narrative quickly shifts to either exaggerate or downplay the events to fit a particular agenda.
Denial of genocide and actively trying to debunk one is not the same thing. Just take a read through this thread, have you ever seen anything like this on other ones? This is just gaslighting
Its irrelevant aka genetic fallacy
Lmfaooooo
You compared her writings to Compagnon even though they aren’t close at all. Compagnon was actively working with the UN in 1991, even in his writings at the time he said that SL doesn’t control 30% of its claimed territory and it very unlikely to ever get independence. Where was she?
This lady has no writings on Somalia before her marriage (which was post 1991), and her only other writings on the country are focused on Somali music, of which she has even said she is more knowledgable on.
Hopefully you can actually respond to everything I say this time instead of cutting out 1/2 sentences and moving the goalposts
You tried to discredit her by saying she married someone of a certain clan lol.
Try not to engage in fallacies first and actually debunk what she said.
Morgan has really done a number on y’all, maybe even more than afweyne
Somalilanders bore the burnt of the 1977 war. The main battlefront during the war was on Somaliland's border. They made up a significant portion of the soldiers who fought against the Ethiopians to free Somali Galbeed. They, just as the rest of Somalis, were swept away by the emotions and danced to the beat the Kacaan drum to free their Somali walaalos against the colonizers. Somalianders were using their own personal property, such as vehicles and their funds to fight in the war. They lost many lives. The impact this war had on Somalilanders was far greater than any other Somali group in Somalia at the time.
Can’t call them qabilist, they welcomed Ogaden refugees in their lands, despite the dangers this could bring.
I noticed that some clans are very straight forward, the ones in british Somaliland that weren't brutally colonized and subjugated are more straight forward talking. The Italian Somaliland clans are all two-faced they'll claim unity while actually having a real problem with certain groups, that's why they are very dangerous. They won't say it directly but they'll come up with these bullshit arguments. They also adopt foreign ideologies and often mix it with qabil. Everything they come up with is a disaster from Kacaan to Alshabaab.
The best of them is PL and they are very shifty, the rest is well we already seen historically and presently what they are about.
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Tbh I disagree I think its more Xamar politics, very slimy game where people play dirty tricks against each other, you see that every election season. Who’s going to ally with who for certain positions.
People who have homelands to go back to are more straight-forward in sompol, they have nothing to lose by going for big jobs but they don’t usually have success because you can’t beat the locals at their game.
Those guys are all snaking eachother too, that's why there's no country. Xamar politics is just artificial.
Some of them even snake thier own group, those are the ones with no homelands.
It's not a good idea to mix with that.
