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The civil war that made you refugees has been long over.

If Somalis became Shia today, this phase of the civil war would have ended by bed time.
 
@Araman

Supporting SL independence is tribalism? Bisimillah

Supporting SL independence is the opposite of qabyaalad. SL is not one qabiil. Dir iyo Darood aya ku nool somaliland

Somaliland independence will actually mean progress, since they aren't inhibited by the inability of the government in the south, and looking back at the history, it was the government in the south that hindered progress to the north.

In that case, by you denying us independence, then does that mean the political establishment in Somalia is plagued with qabyaalad in itself?


Also, Somalia is part of the whole qabyaalad problem. 4.5 formula and a federal system goes against somalinimo in itself and promotes qabyaalad

If SL has different tribes that are all Somali, why do you need a different country? Face it, the only reason they want independence is because of Isaaq. I don't support the 4.5 system either. Why do you feel the need to abandon the South because they are unstable? They are your own people after all. There is no need for 2 different countries that house the same people. You already know how Eritrea looks, and your recent anti-corruption minister quit because of the extensiveness and how deeply rooted the corruption is.

There is no valid argument for SL independence other than the Isaaq genocide that occurred. As long as they are alive, you should reconcile with the government and hold them accountable. You must remember that Isaaq were not the only ones who suffered(I am in no way undermining the atrocities that occurred). We are stronger together.
 
The entire former Yoguslavia. Slovenia became an EU country, Serbia and Bosnia are candidates. Eritrea and Ethiopia had the bloodiest war in Africa. All in early nineties, all bounced back :francis:
Bosnia and the Slovenia are one of the poorest countries in Europe Same with all the other countries that the guy mentioned burndi is really poor sure they are doing better but I don't call the bouncing back more like standing up.
 
this war would have been over in the early to mid 00s and somalia too was on the path to recovery and could have continued were it not for meddlers who planted alshabab and infiltrated with their troops.
True the civil war was done and all we had to do is have a government but then AMISOM entered somalia and alshabab came out of nowhere this is very suspicious
 
If SL has different tribes that are all Somali, why do you need a different country? Face it, the only reason they want independence is because of Isaaq. I don't support the 4.5 system either. Why do you feel the need to abandon the South because they are unstable? They are your own people after all. There is no need for 2 different countries that house the same people. You already know how Eritrea looks, and your recent anti-corruption minister quit because of the extensiveness and how deeply rooted the corruption is.

There is no valid argument for SL independence other than the Isaaq genocide that occurred. As long as they are alive, you should reconcile with the government and hold them accountable. You must remember that Isaaq were not the only ones who suffered(I am in no way undermining the atrocities that occurred). We are stronger together.

We are the legitimate government of Somalia, the Peoples republic of Somaliland
 

Prince of Lasanod

Eid trim pending
@Araman

Supporting SL independence is tribalism? Bisimillah

Supporting SL independence is the opposite of qabyaalad. SL is not one qabiil. Dir iyo Darood aya ku nool somaliland

Somaliland independence will actually mean progress, since they aren't inhibited by the inability of the government in the south, and looking back at the history, it was the government in the south that hindered progress to the north.

In that case, by you denying us independence, then does that mean the political establishment in Somalia is plagued with qabyaalad in itself?


Also, Somalia is part of the whole qabyaalad problem. 4.5 formula and a federal system goes against somalinimo in itself and promotes qabyaalad
What national identity does Somaliland have that differentiates it from Somalia other than hatred for Somalia? At least Djibouti is based on Issa and Afar unity. If Somalia struggled to build a national identity based on Somali unity, then how on earth do you think you could build an identity based on Somali division?
 

Gibiin-Udug

Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
Bro there's nothing wrong with being pro Puntland, but some of these Puntlanders here on this site are calling for a secessioni for puntland (Puntland Independence Movement) and theyre a minuscule group, they are trying to cause a division between Hawiye and Darood, i fell for there tactics before, be careful of them, theyre slick walahi.

They use SLanders to attack Hawiye and yhe next moment theyre siding with Hawiye to go at Slanders
Cause a division between darood and Hutus? So you're telling me Hutus didn't cause that division in 1991? Why can't Hutus see what they did wrong? It's like they developed amnesia and want everything to be dandy!

Xamar will never see peace as long as Hutus pretend they didn't cause the civil war. Innocent people's blood has been shed in Xamar. Karma is real and it's working it's way through xamar. You've got a bigger karma coming.

Don't think we forgot. There will be round two and this time we will be ready.:gunsmiley::gunsmiley:
 

Gibiin-Udug

Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
Dont bother quoting Gambar, She is anti Hawiye and Anti Southern Somalia and hates anyone from that region. I have seen her posts lately and its astounding as to how she can harbor so much hate..
Gambar is telling the truth, when will you Hutus ever speak the truth?
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
It's always doomy and gloomy huh? Of course we have some way to go for Somalia but truth is we have made a lot of progress in just 10 yrs, be optimistic for once, and in my opinion Qabyaalad is pretty much dead in Somalia (except PL/SL) and the proof of that is this previous election.

What you mean?
 
Gambar is telling the truth, when will you Hutus ever speak the truth?

Speak the truth? Look I really do not care about politics and qabils and whenever I comment on these threads it's usually a retaliation or calling someone out.

When someone like your friend Gambar starts saying stuff like "People in xamar need a zookeeper" or basically referring to us as sub-human best believe I'm gonna say something about that.
 
Cause a division between darood and Hutus? So you're telling me Hutus didn't cause that division in 1991? Why can't Hutus see what they did wrong? It's like they developed amnesia and want everything to be dandy!

Xamar will never see peace as long as Hutus pretend they didn't cause the civil war. Innocent people's blood has been shed in Xamar. Karma is real and it's working it's way through xamar. You've got a bigger karma coming.

Don't think we forgot. There will be round two and this time we will be ready.:gunsmiley::gunsmiley:
Darod :mjlol:
 

Gibiin-Udug

Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
Speak the truth? Look I really do not care about politics and qabils and whenever I comment on these threads it's usually a retaliation or calling someone out.

When someone like your friend Gambar starts saying stuff like "People in xamar need a zookeeper" or basically referring to us as sub-human best believe I'm gonna say something about that.
It's true though. Even animals don't act the way xamar ununka leh acts. Killing, looting and raping!!!
 
Cause a division between darood and Hutus? So you're telling me Hutus didn't cause that division in 1991? Why can't Hutus see what they did wrong? It's like they developed amnesia and want everything to be dandy!

Xamar will never see peace as long as Hutus pretend they didn't cause the civil war. Innocent people's blood has been shed in Xamar. Karma is real and it's working it's way through xamar. You've got a bigger karma coming.

Don't think we forgot. There will be round two and this time we will be ready.:gunsmiley::gunsmiley:

:duckr:.....I suggest you avoid that so called ''Round 2'' your calling for, because you will make one helluva war-booty, just imaging the horny faces of those hutu warriors when they see you, laughable indeed :icon lol:
 
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