I've always wondered if apostates....

[Muhajaba]

not sure how the two theories are even linked but okay

anyway, how do u reconcile ur belief that the earth is flat with the consensus among islamic scholars throughout history that the earth is round?

Take a look at what that concensus is based on and you'll see the evidence for flat earth is much stronger.

So ur flat-earth conspiracy is mainly a weak, roundabout effort to discredit evolution

Curveball! I did not see that coming How does it work

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[Tramo]

So ur flat-earth conspiracy is mainly a weak, roundabout effort to discredit evolution

Curveball! I did not see that coming How does it work

 

[VixR]

Get ur in head in the game.

 

[Tramo]

Take a look at what that concensus is based on and you'll see the evidence for flat earth is much stronger.



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so basically completely discard the consensus because it conflicts with 'evidence'? all of the scholars are wrong then, from Ibn Kathir to Ibn Taymiyyah?

 

[Muhajaba]

so basically completely discard the consensus because it conflicts with 'evidence'? all of the scholars are wrong then, from Ibn Kathir to Ibn Taymiyyah?

Scholars aren't infallible dear, they can be wrong!
Just look at the evidence for yourself.
By the way the earth is indeed round. But it isn't a globe.

 

[Tramo]

Scholars aren't infallible dear, they can be wrong!
Just look at the evidence for yourself.
By the way the earth is indeed round. But it isn't a globe.

u realize how slippery a slope this is right? horta why are u even so adamant in believing the flat earth theory if it doesnt conflict with islam and in fact goes against the ijmaac?

do u apply the same scrutiny to other areas? why dont u believe in evolution when the evidence is overwhelming markaa? madaxaa i xanuunay walahi

 

[Muhajaba]

u realize how slippery a slope this is right? horta why are u even so adamant in believing the flat earth theory if it doesnt conflict with islam and in fact goes against the ijmaac?

do u apply the same scrutiny to other areas? why dont u believe in evolution when the evidence is overwhelming markaa? madaxaa i xanuunay walahi

I'm guessing you aren't familiar with Usuulul Fiqh.

 

[Muhajaba]

I'm guessing you aren't familiar with Usuulul Fiqh.

The only ijmaa' that is a requirement of aqeedah is ijmaa' of the sahaabah

 

[Tramo]

I'm guessing you aren't familiar with Usuulul Fiqh.

i am, and i'm guessing u arent famililar with the fact that ijmaa' is considered to be the 3rd most authoritative source after the Quran and Sunnah, and before any sort of ijtihad u might perform in the absence of a consensus

ur jumping through mental hoops to justify a theory that conflicts with islam, and for what

 

[Muhajaba]

i am, and i'm guessing u arent famililar with the fact that ijmaa' is considered to be the 3rd most authoritative source after the Quran and Sunnah, and before any sort of ijtihad u might perform in the absence of a consensus

ur jumping through mental hoops to justify a theory that conflicts with islam, and for what

Ijmaa' of sahaabah not general ijmaa'. Anything bellow ijma' of sahaabah is not considered hujjah by ahlul sunnah wal jamaa'a. Even ibn taymiyyah or ibn kathiir would force people to accept their view about the shape of the earth.

 

[Tramo]

Ijmaa' of sahaabah not general ijmaa'. Anything bellow ijma' of sahaabah is not considered hujjah by ahlul sunnah wal jamaa'a. Even ibn taymiyyah or ibn kathiir would force people to accept their view about the shape of the earth.

okay, let's take this at face value. u still havent answered my question. why dont u believe in evolution then if scientific evidence trumps the opinion of any scholars or even a consensus among them?

 

[Muhajaba]

okay, let's take this at face value. u still havent answered my question. why dont u believe in evolution then if scientific evidence trumps the opinion of any scholars or even a consensus among them?

Because evolution is a baseless theory with no evidence to support it. Not only that it takes God out of the equation so clearly it goes to against Qur'an, Sunnah and ijmaa' of sahaabah.

 

[Tramo]

Because evolution is a baseless theory with no evidence to support it. Not only that it takes God out of the equation so clearly it goes to against Qur'an, Sunnah and ijmaa' of sahaabah.

idk how u can believe in flat earth theory, but consider evolution to be baseless. i'm actually fascinated

 

[Muhajaba]

idk how u can believe in flat earth theory, but consider evolution to be baseless. i'm actually fascinated [emoji38]

Curiosity and fascination is the first step. Now you can begin your fact finding mission. You can start here
Don't worry it's all based on science, no speculative mumbo jumbo or fantom transitional species like you find in the theory of evolution [emoji6]

 

[Mercury]

My experience is the opposite. You hardly ever meet someone who was born into Islam that doesn't know the basic tenets.

Most know the basics But you be suprised how some ignore it i know this girl whose muslim but eats bacon her reason its just bacon not pork

 

[The_Cosmos]

@Muhajaba

So does the earth have an edge?

 

[Muhajaba]

@Muhajaba

So does the earth have an edge?

Yeah it's called Antarctica.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Yeah it's called Antarctica.

Well, it can't be the only edge considering that you're talking about a round flat earth.

 

[Muhajaba]

Antarctica goes around the edge of the earth.

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[Muhajaba]

By the way don't you find it strange that gravity can hold the vast oceans onto the surface of the earth but a small mosquito can defy the great magical force of gravity. Amazing lol

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