I've had many people since 2015 ask that "Ogaden region" be banned from the forum

[ethan bradberry]

No, I thought she hated Daroods there are 2 non darods other than her who voted no

I shall give those two non daroods the benefit of the doubt and presume they clicked no by mistake.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Bantus and other minorities in Somalia are not native to the area. Whereas Somali galbeed has different clans who always lived there.

Thats bullshit. Somalis arnt native to jubaland and most of kilinka 5.

 

[ethan bradberry]

Thats bullshit. Somalis arnt native to jubaland and most of kilinka 5.

You've got a point there. But Somalis lived there before Bantus came.

 

[Ras]

It's better to keep it as the Ogaden region. Somalia can't win the branding message on the world stage if we claim it as west somalia. Worst of all, the somalis over there won't be getting Somalia's help for atleast 20 years. If ONLF wants to make headway in their liberation obviously they need a name change to entice the people of the hawd to join but if they're the only ones fighting it's up to them to go along their business.

The organisation behind ONLF died a decade ago.

Now it's just a brand or calling sign being branded about by bored diaspora with some sporadic funding for random clan militias.

TPLF bought out or arrested anyone relevant in ONLF ( you can find them hanging out in Jijiga prison).



The name for the region Ogaden gives TPLF an excuse to turn this into a qabil discussion and split the Somalis in the Galbeed apart.


I read somewhere that the name was picked by Haile Selassie to pit the other clans against the largest clan there.

Ogadens never had the opportunity to name the place themselves so why would you go along with the plan of your enemies?

 

[OmarLittle]

When did you - of all people started 'banning' words? @AbdiJohnson

 

[Kaleel]

Why don't we go back to the original name Hararghe.

 

[Simodi]

Why don't we go back to the original name Hararghe.

Bale, Harar, Boran and Ogaden are the areas that compromise the Zone 5 of Ethiopia today. So the Ogaden administrative area was much smaller than the current Zone 5 or Somali Region. A misnomer for the region! Don't forget the Somalis are not limited to Zone 5 thousands live in the Afar or modern Oromo region too. There is no proof or clan census of Ogaden being majority in Ethiopia.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Think about it we are half the population of oromo ppl but yet we have more land than tigre, oromo,amhara, afar and 50% of kenyans combined lol. Thats not by coincidence

 

[Ras]

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I wonder why most of the people who voted no are darood

Everyone seems to have it for the Caghdeers.

It's like a big sleeping giant that could f*ck shit up if they ever decide to wake up and properly get involved in mainland politics (Madobe excl).

One thing MJ & Isaaqs have in common is their opposition to anything Ogaden.

 

[Menelik III]

I'll take that as you accept, and why was the next video on mengistu lol? Coming at my life?

 

[TSP]

The organisation behind ONLF died a decade ago.

Now it's just a brand or calling sign being branded about by bored diaspora with some sporadic funding for random clan militias.

TPLF bought out or arrested anyone relevant in ONLF ( you can find them hanging out in Jijiga prison).



The name for the region Ogaden gives TPLF an excuse to turn this into a qabil discussion and split the Somalis in the Galbeed apart.


I read somewhere that the name was picked by Haile Selassie to pit the other clans against the largest clan there.

Ogadens never had the opportunity to name the place themselves so why would you go along with the plan of your enemies?

TPLF don't call it the ogaden region and their gameplan is turning every somali clan against the ogaden clan because of the notorious liyuu police once Ethiopia disintegrates. They really don't care what somalis call the place since they are fomenting hate in the region through their puppet Abdi iley.

 

[Menelik III]

Think about it we are half the population of oromo ppl but yet we have more land than tigre, oromo,amhara, afar and 50% of kenyans combined lol. Thats not by coincidence

It's because you guys inhabit desert. Just like the arabs, they expand out of the desert. Not really prime location.

 

[Inquisitive_]

Calling it Ogaden is what TPLF would have loved because through tribalizing the region you turned the struggle on its head

It's no longer a collective Somali struggle anymore but a tribal one & good luck enticing anyone to join you especially Somalis whom can't look past it

This gives the TPLF the ammo to use the various tribes against each other, this is also terrible for the o.g clan as we saw before, they get all the repercussions for ONLF attacks collectively while none of the other tribes there suffer because of this tribal emphasis

A unified movement that is mixed and even if no one else joins using an all inclusive Somali name with a few token mixed clans for representation will not only win more hearts and minds, but the TFLF is forced to hurt other clans if they go the collective punishment route instead of just targetting a single clan.

This will unleash the hell hounds of chaos and lead to their quick demise with swelling recruits all over the Somali peninsula joining this mixed struggle, hence the names are of paramount importance here both of the region and the rebel movement but going clan route is not only foolish but genocidal

If a single tribal movement forced the TPLF to abandon collective punishment in favour of settlement, then a mixed one would have destroyed it

 

[Kaleel]

I'll take that as you accept, and why was the next video on mengistu lol? Coming at my life?

lol I guess Youtube is telling you you watch a lot of Mengistu videos. But no I don't agree, Ogaden sounds better than that.

 

[Kezira]

Selem everyone

Ogaden region does not exist I only hear it on this forum

 

[Kezira]

TPLF don't call it the ogaden region and their gameplan is turning every somali clan against the ogaden clan because of the notorious liyuu police once Ethiopia disintegrates. They really don't care what somalis call the place since they are fomenting hate in the region through their puppet Abdi iley.

Selem all clans in the Ethiopian Somali Region work together we are all United under a common ideology that is to be a Ethio Somali

 

[Reer-Bari]

It's because you guys inhabit desert. Just like the arabs, they expand out of the desert. Not really prime location.

So what its 2017. You can grow anything in arid lands now. Thats not an excuse. Plus Somalia being a desert is a misconception

 

[Kezira]

Calling it Ogaden is what TPLF would have loved because through tribalizing the region you turned the struggle on its head

It's no longer a collective Somali struggle anymore but a tribal one & good luck enticing anyone to join you especially Somalis whom can't look past it

This gives the TPLF the ammo to use the various tribes against each other, this is also terrible for the o.g clan as we saw before, they get all the repercussions for ONLF attacks collectively while none of the other tribes there suffer because of this tribal emphasis

A unified movement that is mixed and even if no one else joins using an all inclusive Somali name with a few token mixed clans for representation will not only win more hearts and minds, but the TFLF is forced to hurt other clans if they go the collective punishment route instead of just targetting a single clan.

This will unleash the hell hounds of chaos and lead to their quick demise with swelling recruits all over the Somali peninsula joining this mixed struggle, hence the names are of paramount importance her both of the region and the rebel movement going clan route is not only foolish but genocidal

If a single tribal movement forced the TPLF to abandon collective punishment in favour of settlement, then a mixed one would have destroyed it

Selem this Western Somalia u speak of is a failed project.

 

[Canuck]

Maybe 6 people.

What is even more interesting is that 2 of them were Ogaden.

Should Ogaden region be banned on Somalispot in favour of Somali region or DDSI or Kilinka Shanaad?

You should in that case ban the name of SL because it refers to one tribe, same PL, Awdal, GL, JL. All these regions stand for tribalism.

 

[Kezira]

I know many Ogaden people who would be ready to put 100 shells inside any one of you who are against Xarunta Shacabka Dawladda Soomalidda Itoobiya