Jamaican farther abandoned his children for 18 years

[Angelina]

no ive personally went through a divorce and my dad didnt forget my family either way how is the same as jaimaicans who dont even know thier fathers name my dad spent time with me untill i was 12 and left i still remember him how he looks like and were still in contact

Thats sad.

Does he still visit you?

 

[Nak-Muay-Kru]

Keeping in touch doesn’t make a good dad. Need to be physically and mentally present for your kids to be considered a “good” parent. Sorry to disappoint.

Ps. My whole point was those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. If Jamaicans have 44% absent fathers, guess who else has a figure similar or close to that?

You realise there's probably a lot of undiagnosed PTSD floating around in our community don't you? You're comparing men who had to flee their war-torn nation to yardies who just don't like wearing condoms lol. It's no excuse for their behaviour, but as far as excuses go it's pretty good one

 

[Angelina]

Not where I live. I know of way too many deadbeat fathers who don’t raise their kids. They choose to entertain young girls and live the high life just like Jamaican men. Buying kids eid clothes here and there doesn’t make them any different.

There are too many used Somali wh0res with a low sense of self worth for us to argue that there aren’t many absent fathers.

I don't understand how you can call Somali women who ended up with deadbeat men 's' considering they did things the right way and actually got married, but the man decided to dip on the kids upon divorce.

If I get to know a man who has no kids like me and has never married, how can I predict that he wouldn't end up as a deadbeat?

Your comment isn't fair at all.

 

[madaxweyne]

Thats sad.

Does he still visit you?

i visit him and stay with him sometimes but i don't see how divorcees are similar to baby daddies do you even know what that is its a man who has premarital sex with a women and abandons her after she gets pregnant the kid usually grows up never knowing what he's dads name is or what he looks like

 

[Angelina]

You realise there's probably a lot of undiagnosed PTSD floating around in our community don't you? You're comparing men who had to flee their war-torn nation to yardies who just don't like wearing condoms lol

Hey,

I've really had enough of the PTSD excuse which is never extended to women. Many mothers watched their dads, brothers and some even elder sons executed, but they got on with it and raised their kids because they know their children depend on them.

We can't go around saying men are the leaders of society ect, if we constantly baby them and portray them as being emotionally weaker than women.

 

[Mozart]

I don't understand how you can call Somali women who ended up with deadbeat men '*****s' considering they did things the right way and actually got married, but the man decided to dip on the kids upon divorce.

If I get to know a man who has no kids like me and has never married, how can I predict that he wouldn't end up as a deadbeat?

Your comment isn't fair at all.

Lol your interpretation of what i said is wild. I’m implying the number of girls our age who don’t value themselves and end up getting used by all sorts of men, is a consequence of fathers not raising their kids. Same with the boys needlessly gangbanging.

 

[Amirah]

@Marshall D Abdi, I know you think I hate faraxs...wallahi I don’t I just speak blatant truth, which is ugly. My whole thing is let’s not be hypocrites and criticize others of the same things we’re guilty of...fair?

@elite1337 even if they don’t “pump & dump”(very gross and demeaning words to use btw), the end result is the same. If 1/3 or 1/4 or even 1/5 Somali men abandon their kids after a divorce even if that child is 10...it doesn’t make much difference. They still abandoned their children.

 

[Angelina]

i visit him and stay with him sometimes but i don't see how divorcees are similar to baby daddies do you even know what that is its a man who has premarital sex with a women and abandons her after she gets pregnant the kid usually grows up never knowing what he's dads name is or what he looks like

MashaAllah

I personally know some people whose dads have moved to a different city, never contacts them and have gone about their new lives. Even though Alhamdulilah their conception was halal, they have still been abandoned.

Count yourself lucky saxib.

 

[Angelina]

Lol your interpretation of what i said is wild. I’m implying the number of girls our age who don’t value themselves and end up getting used by all sorts of men, is a consequence of fathers not raising their kids. Same with the boys needlessly gangbanging.

Ah okay,

I thought you were saying the women who married deadbeat men had low self esteem ect.

My bad.

 

[madaxweyne]

Not where I live. I know of way too many deadbeat fathers who don’t raise their kids. They choose to entertain young girls and live the high life just like Jamaican men. Buying kids eid clothes here and there doesn’t make them any different.

There are too many used Somali wh0res with a low sense of self worth for us to argue that there aren’t many absent fathers.

i dont know what planet your living in mate most somali kids i grew up with usually have two parent households or in the worse case their dad left them after staying with them for 15 years enough time for him to raise his kids take care of them and spend quality time

gtfo with your bullshit bro dont know what planet your living on

 

[elite1337]

@Marshall D Abdi, I know you think I hate faraxs...wallahi I don’t I just speak the truth. My whole thing let’s not be hypocrites and criticize others of the same things we’re guilty o

@elite1337 even if they don’t “pump & dump”(very gross and demeaning words to use btw), the end result is the same. If 1/3 or 1/4 or even 1/5 Somali men abandon their kids after a divorce even if that child is 10...it doesn’t make much difference. They still abandoned their children.

its still MUCH better than to have never known or interracted with him at all. divorces suck but its happens a lot in other communities too. just dont compare us to african americans or jamaicans thats just pure degeneracy to pump and dump

 

[Jaydaan]

Keeping in touch doesn’t make a good dad. Need to be physically and mentally present for your kids to be considered a “good” parent. Sorry to disappoint.

Ps. My whole point was those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. If Jamaicans have 44% absent fathers, guess who else has a figure similar or close to that?

Can we be better than anyone. If they have 44% and we have 43% we win. Let us just have this win.

 

[Nak-Muay-Kru]

Hey,

I've really had enough of the PTSD excuse which is never extended to women. Many mothers watched their dads, brothers and some even elder sons executed, but they got on with it and raised their kids because they know their children depend on them.

We can't go around saying men are the leaders of society ect, if we constantly baby them and portray them as being emotionally weaker than women.

It's different. The state basically emasculated Somali men and cut their balls off. Nothing eats away at you as a man worse than not being able to provide for your family, especially if you're from a hypermasculine society. Add of dash of PSTD, a severe khat addiction and you have yourself a recipe for disaster.
Alhamdulillah, the women were more resilient, thank god for Somali hooyos

 

[madaxweyne]

MashaAllah

I personally know some people whose dads have moved to a different city, never contacts them and have gone about their new lives. Even though Alhamdulilah their conception was halal, they have still been abandoned.

Count yourself lucky saxib.

that might not be them i know in the case with my dad my mom didnt want him to contact us but he allways did either way who cares anyway somali dads still stay with thier kids on average stay with their kids for 13

 

[Mozart]

i dont know what planet your living in mate most somali kids i grew up with usually have two parent households or in the worse case their dad left them after staying with them for 15 years enough time for him to raise his kids take care of them and spend quality time

gtfo with your bullshit bro dont know what planet your living on

The state of the Somali diaspora screams otherwise. My dad was in my life but I’m intelligent enough to see I was fortunate.

Things were so dismal in my area that they set up an association to try and motivate fathers to raise their kids. It’s changing for the younger ones but it’s not the case for the older men.

 

[Angelina]

It's different. The state basically emasculated Somali men and cut their balls off. Nothing eats away at you as a man worse than not being able to provide for your family, especially if you're from a hypermasculine society. Add of dash of PSTD, a severe khat addiction and you have yourself a recipe for disaster.
Alhamdulillah, the women were more resilient, thank god for Somali hooyos

Lol, khat addiction is self inflicted. They don't deserve anyone's sympathy.

As much as I bash some Somali men here and there, there are many Somali fathers who have suffered a lot, however hold it down for their families and look after their wives and kids. They have a sense of duty and fear Allah.

As a community, we really can't afford to make excuses for the % who refused to get their act together.

 

[madaxweyne]

It's different. The state basically emasculated Somali men and cut their balls off. Nothing eats away at you as a man worse than not being able to provide for your family, especially if you're from a hypermasculine society. Add of dash of PSTD, a severe khat addiction and you have yourself a recipe for disaster.
Alhamdulillah, the women were more resilient, thank god for Somali hooyos

most divorces are becouse of the state bieng able to provide necessities in the form of welfare child benefits etc ie no need for a man but the somali father is to blame since most dont work or provide for thier families without welfare most would divorce rates would be extremly low

 

[Material]

most divorces are becouse of the state bieng able to provide necessities in the form of welfare child benefits etc ie no need for a man but the somali father is to blame since most dont work or provide for thier families without welfare most would divorce rates would be extremly low

That's only a small minority. Most work the shittiest jobs to provide

 

[Nak-Muay-Kru]

Lol, khat addiction is self inflicted. They don't deserve anyone's sympathy.

As much as I bash some Somali men here and there, there are many Somali fathers who have suffered a lot, however hold it down for their families and look after their wives and kids. They have a sense of duty and fear Allah.

As a community, we really can't afford to make excuses for the % who refused to get their act together.

The fact that khat was the extent of their addiction is a miracle wallahi. If I saw my relatives get massacred and butchered in the streets I'd be railing likes of coke first thing in the morning and washing it down with a bottle of Jack Daniels. Few of the cadaan I knew from school went to Afghan, they became back FUCKED UP beyond repair, one of them tired to stab a cab driver.

It's no excuse but have a little sympathy wallahi. Imagine graduating with a 1st in Chemical Engineering and having to work in a warehouse or as delivery driver, I'd feel so dejected and humiliated. I don't think guys from our generation could hack it.

 

[elite1337]

The fact that khat was the extent of their addiction is a miracle wallahi. If I saw my relatives get massacred and butchered in the streets I'd be railing likes of coke first thing in the morning and watching it down with a bottle of Jack Daniels.

It's no excuse but have a little sympathy wallahi. Imagine graduating with a 1st in Chemical Engineering and having to work in a warehouse or as delivery driver, I'd feel so dejected and humiliated. I don't think guys from our generation could hack it.

wow i keep forgetting about that. so much trauma and ptsd within the 1st generation