Jeegaan sent threats to reer Awdal " fight us or STFU and sit down! "

[Rabiic]

It seems you didnt read my command, you just reply back the same words!!.

MJ were kingdom almost 200 years!, isaaq not, so you shouldnt tell us about how to governor

Plus yes MJ wanted to bring Somalis to Bossaso shir in 90s and didnt work, not to mention too many outside shirs till 1998.

Again Puntland doesnt compare with state been build in 1991 .

Ignoring your childish fantasy about a mythical desert kingdom, Isaaq built a country from scratch in 1991, your clan lost nothing in comparison, had brand new infrastructure to make use of and yet you still waited until 1998 to copy every step made by Isaaq, including the name of your state. These are facts you cant deny.

Your state is unproductive, this was true in 1991 and its true today, Berbera alone, just one city and port facility generates more revenue than every single man, woman and goat in puntland.

 

[Rabiic]

Mohamed abiib in borama..jsl haanoolaato ayay leeyihiin. Gadabursi are landers

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So many cuqdadlayaal got panic attacks when he said that, they thought gadabursi are like dulbahante who were taped destroying their homes with their bare hands in laascaanood out of Isaaq ciil

 

[NidarNidar]

Mohamed abiib in borama..jsl haanoolaato ayay leeyihiin. Gadabursi are landers

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This could easily be out of context.

 

[Pocket Rockets]

Puntland was largely not affected by the Somali civil war, you experienced virtually zero destruction or the intense level of combat that Isaaq experienced.

How do you then explain majeerteen waiting until 1998 and wholesale copying every step Isaaq made, including the governing model, including the name of the state, even including a clause for secession because you had no balls nor requisite historical and legal precedent to declare independence. You were just copying every step Isaaq took, and you are still copying Isaaq today.

You could not even come up with an original name, in 1991, Puntland was one of the names Isaaq voted on and was eventually rejected, you took that name and ran with.

Most mj people lived in the south not in puntland. We suffered huge losses just like isaaq. Why do u think mjs fled back to their clan territory?
Also isaaq had a thing called SNM that was still alive and well 1991. SSDF mostly disbanded before that. So basically, isaaq already had an organization and big permanent population. While puntland had virtually no organiztion (ssdf being pretty much dead), and a whole flock of new population settling the area. Anyone can see why it took a little time to form a permanent local gov.

 

[AP123]

This could easily be out of context.

It looks like he is saying jsl hanoolaato and it looks like their agreeing lol.

 

[aarkamudug]

Puntland was largely not affected by the Somali civil war, you experienced virtually zero destruction or the intense level of combat that Isaaq experienced.

@Midwestern @jusbrowsin @Bari @Libaax-Joore this kid is claiming isaaq engaged in more fighting than majeerteen in the 90s

 

[aarkamudug]

unlike isaaq kurtumo manihin oo hal meel wada daga. We were busy fighting in jubaland from 1991-1998 whilst also fighting in mudug while y’all were chilling in your little triangle

 

[Aurelian]

So many cuqdadlayaal got panic attacks when he said that, they thought gadabursi are like dulbahante who were taped destroying their homes with their bare hands in laascaanood out of Isaaq ciil

Destroying their homes? Waryaa, your mooryaan broke the water facility and took machine parts reer laascaanood bought and build, while you can't build a water system in your capital hargeisa.

 

[Rabiic]

Most mj people lived in the south not in puntland. We suffered huge losses just like isaaq. Why do u think mjs fled back to their clan territory?
Also isaaq had a thing called SNM that was still alive and well 1991. SSDF mostly disbanded before that. So basically, isaaq already had an organization and big permanent population. While puntland had virtually no organiztion (ssdf being pretty much dead), and a whole flock of new population settling the area. Anyone can see why it took a little time to form a permanent local gov.

Everyone lived in Mogadishu lol. Isaaq had a lot more invested in Xamar and way more business interest than you so you cant use that as an excuse.

You did not suffer damage as the civil war did not reach your territory, so how come you did not take advantage of having a monopoly over port access and a brand new highway?

How did it take you until 1998 to literally copy Isaaq step by step including the name of your state? Its like if we decided in 1991 to call our new state majeerteenia, Puntland as a name was in the running and voted on in the process of Somaliland's formation.

 

[Rabiic]

Destroying their homes? Waryaa, your mooryaan broke the water facility and took machine parts reer laascaanood bought and build, while you can't build a water system in your capital hargeisa.

We have documented evidence that even you too probably watched of laascanood civilians destroying their own property during the laascanood conflict, I've never seen any other community destroy their own homes like that before.

 

[Aurelian]

We have documented evidence that even you too probably watched of laascanood civilians destroying their own property during the laascanood conflict, I've never seen any other community destroy their own homes like that before

Somaliland indiscriminately shelling Laascaanood, damaging houses, hospitals, school and mosques was documented. That video you taking everywhere is reer laascaanood rebuilding their houses after the fight by taking out shelled parts.

 

[aarkamudug]

Somaliland indiscriminately shelling Laascaanood, damaging houses, hospitals, school and mosques was documented. That video you taking everywhere is reer laascaanood rebuilding their houses after the fight by taking out shelled parts.

Never forget #sscgenocide

 

[Aurelian]

Never forget #sscgenocide

We are hearing the same rhetoric on reer awdal, but to this vicious SLer, it was reer Laascaanood fault that these soldiers wanted genocide, and now it is reer awdal fault for choosing Wadani party.

 

[Rabiic]

Somaliland indiscriminately shelling Laascaanood, damaging houses, hospitals, school and mosques was documented. That video you taking everywhere is reer laascaanood rebuilding their houses after the fight by taking out shelled parts.

Never before in history did a community decide to destroy their own homes in the hopes that it would make their enemies look bad, this is unheard of:

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Its all documented, ciil forced them to damage their own property to claim Isaaq did it, so strange

 

[Midwestern]

@Midwestern @jusbrowsin @Bari @Libaax-Joore this kid is claiming isaaq engaged in more fighting than majeerteen in the 90s

He wouldn’t be losing so badly in Sool if that was the case. MJ’s defeated USC + Al Etihad in Juboooyinka and Puntland during the 90s.

 

[Rabiic]

He wouldn’t be losing so badly in Sool if that was the case. MJ’s defeated USC + Al Etihad in Juboooyinka and Puntland during the 90s.

MJ surrendered to Siad Barre, think about that for a moment. The only armed movement that Barre was able to forcefully defeat and disband was SSDF.

SNM and USC fought the dictatorship and made sure Barre died a refugee and his kacaan was over when your fathers begged him for mercy.

Your Puntland was created as a result of the war waged and won by SNM and USC, if they acted like your SSDF the kacaan would still be here today, not all people are equal.

 

[Midwestern]

MJ surrendered to Siad Barre, think about that for a moment. The only armed movement that Barre was able to forcefully defeat and disband was SSDF.

SNM and USC fought the dictatorship and made sure Barre died a refugee and his kacaan was over when your fathers begged him for mercy.

Your Puntland was created as a result of the war waged and won by SNM and USC, if they acted like your SSDF the kacaan would still be here today, not all people are equal.

This Fuley idoor is trying to rewrite history. MJ’s were the only tribe that showed other Somalis that Bare can be defeated. Current and former Somalinland presidents were working for Bare when Isaaq civilians were getting killed and isaaq politicians were afraid to join SSDF when AY offered them to join the only rebel group at that time.

SSDF took revenge on Siyad Bare by attacking and capturing his tribal land and other towns like Balanbale, Goldogob and Buuhoodle in 1981. SSDF did all this in response to the poisoned wells in Mudug. After these incidents, Siyaad Bare started negotiating with MJs and Bosaso port and laamiga were all part of the peace deal that was offered to MJs. Ethiopians arrested SSDF leader AY after he refused to plant an Ethiopia flag so the new SSDF leader at that time signed the peace deal.

SNM were reduced to hiding behind civilians in Hargeisa and Burco while SSDF were taking the war to Bare’s tribal lands. Also, SNM were okay with having Ethiopian flags in Hargeysa and Burco just like how you want Oromos to help you defeat Harti in 2024.

 

[Rabiic]

This Fuley idoor is trying to rewrite history. MJ’s were the only tribe that showed other Somalis that Bare can be defeated. Current and former Somalinland presidents were working for Bare when Isaaq civilians were getting killed and isaaq politicians were afraid to join SSDF when AY offered them to join the only rebel group at that time.

You did not show Barre can be defeated, quite the opposite actually, MJ and their SSDF were the only, I repeat the only armed group to be defeated by Barre and announced their surrender:

SSDF took revenge on Siyad Bare by attacking and capturing his tribal land and other towns like Balanbale, Goldogob and Buuhoodle in 1981. SSDF did all this in response to the poisoned wells in Mudug. After these incidents, Siyaad Bare started negotiating with MJs and Bosaso port and laamiga were all part of the peace deal that was offered to MJs. Ethiopians arrested SSDF leader AY after he refused to plant an Ethiopia flag so the new SSDF leader at that time signed the peace deal.

SNM were reduced to hiding behind civilians in Hargeisa and Burco while SSDF were taking the war to Bare’s tribal lands. Also, SNM were okay with having Ethiopian flags in Hargeysa and Burco just like how you want Oromos to help you defeat Harti in 2024.

You did not even do that, SSDF was such a failure that it hid behind 9000 Ethiopian troops in the only operation it is known to participate in, truly one of the most embarrassing rebel movements you will read about:

And right after failing to hold the towns with the help of 9000 Ethiopian soldiers, SSDF just surrendered to Barre, imagine the humiliation!

Ethiopians arrested SSDF leader AY after he refused to plant an Ethiopia flag so the new SSDF leader at that time signed the peace deal.

This is another lie. The reason for why AY was arrested brings only more humiliation to the already tattered name of SSDF, the Ethiopians were furious with AY due to his surrender to Afweyne and the fact that SSDF was later used by Afweyne against Hawiye, imagine amxaar having more dhiig than the ssdf leader:

I dont think I would ever mention SSDF if I were MJ

 

[Rabiic]

spot SSDF in the lineup of SNM, USC and SSDF

Imagine wanting to claim to be a liberation movement when you are the only one to surrender and the only operation you made was with the support of 9000 Ethiopian mechanised support units.

 

[FAST_LANE]

I laugh when I hear an Isaaq talking about fighting. That clip of an Isaaq soldier putting his 14K PKM down and taking his 2 dollar slippers and running for dear life will haunt every Isaaq for generations. 500 nin oo nolosha lugu qabtay. horta ma ka dhacday Somalida dhexdeeda?