Jeegaans start talking about rejoin with Somalia!

[Gaarasho]

Nope

They realised that they can't rule with brute force as they are simply incapable of this, so they will try to form a political party with USC, and have a President/VP dictatorship, with two power-centres, Hargeisa and Mogadishu, and everyone else is marginalised.

They lack the political shrewdness to achieve such objectives.

 

[DR OSMAN]

They lack the political shrewdness to achieve such objectives.

As long as hags isaaq go to IOG who is the Godfather of irirism, don't feel threatened, the guy is a student of siyad barre and even till today copied his governance, as long as they see him, we know anything they attempt to plot and calculate against darods, after all we r his master. We r just being civil and not showing them we know anything they try due to somalinimo manners.

 

[NidarNidar]

He is an actual Oromo. His clan includes shit like 'habar xabusho' and 'jarso', 'akisho' which are known Oromo clans that they absorbed and assimilated to fight other Somali tribes

That's before you include African sounding tribes like 'Sanbuur'(Samburu of Kenya) and 'Reer Beniin' (African country of Benin in West Africa).

Some of you need to study Somali history, the Akisho or Cayisho/ means in old Somali the (Cayilsan) "Fat One." Also, the other nickname of the Akisho, Gurre a nickname given to them by the Oromo, is derived from one who doesn't "hear" because they did not speak the Oromo language when they settled among the Oromo of Bale and Arsi around 1600.

HA have assimilated Akisho from what I've read but I haven't delved into that far, I highly doubt the Somali clans would assimilate Oromo that deep into their territory, they live in Gabiley and Wajale from what I recall, the dir that live deep into Western Hararghe have been partially assimilated, I have family living in Chiro still who are Gadabuursi and still speak Somali, so not everyone has been assimilated and they have been living there for the past few hundred years alongside Ittu Oromos who are become Muslim due to the local Somali influence.

Similar to the Garre, the Madawayne branch travelled deep into non-Somali territory for trade and some got left behind and assimilated.

 

[TheLand]

Some of you need to study Somali history, the Akisho or Cayisho/ means in old Somali the (Cayilsan) "Fat One." Also, the other nickname of the Akisho, Gurre a nickname given to them by the Oromo, is derived from one who doesn't "hear" because they did not speak the Oromo language when they settled among the Oromo of Bale and Arsi around 1600.

HA have assimilated Akisho from what I've read but I haven't delved into that far, I highly doubt the Somali clans would assimilate Oromo that deep into their territory, they live in Gabiley and Wajale from what I recall, the dir that live deep into Western Hararghe have been partially assimilated, I have family living in Chiro still who are Gadabuursi and still speak Somali, so not everyone has been assimilated and they have been living there for the past few hundred years alongside Ittu Oromos who are become Muslim due to the local Somali influence.

Similar to the Garre, the Madawayne branch travelled deep into non-Somali territory for trade and some got left behind and assimilated.

Akisho are def Oromo sxb, as are Jaarso. The names don’t even sound Somali and def sound Oromo. Sometimes you just need to increase your numbers but can’t do it the old fashioned way lol. No way to spin this.

 

[TheLand]

As long as hags isaaq go to IOG who is the Godfather of irirism, don't feel threatened, the guy is a student of siyad barre and even till today copied his governance, as long as they see him, we know anything they attempt to plot and calculate against darods, after all we r his master. We r just being civil and not showing them we know anything they try due to somalinimo manners.

Has nothing to do with IOG. Irir does not have the mental or emotional capacity to achieve such things. They can’t hide their cuqdad for 10 mins. Meesha caqli majiro 🫏

 

[Gaarasho]

As long as hags isaaq go to IOG who is the Godfather of irirism, don't feel threatened, the guy is a student of siyad barre and even till today copied his governance, as long as they see him, we know anything they attempt to plot and calculate against darods, after all we r his master. We r just being civil and not showing them we know anything they try due to somalinimo manners.

What’s interesting is whenever a Darood occupies the villa, they pay almost no attention to Djbouti they see it as insignificant. Mr cheese man flew across it many times.

 

[NidarNidar]

Akisho are def Oromo sxb, as are Jaarso. The names don’t even sound Somali and def sound Oromo. Sometimes you just need to increase your numbers but can’t do it the old fashioned way lol. No way to spin this.

Why would Gadabuursi incorporate a different clan so far everyone of us tested has been T-L208, either way genetic testing will prove one of us right, just need Jaarso and Akisho tested, all Dirs tested so have only gotten T-L208 and E-V32, one of the Gurgura who is E-V32 is getting a Yfull soon so will see where he lands in the tree amongst other Somalis, my money is on they'll cluster with HA E-V32.

 

[Jaale Ugaas]

He said SNM was made to attack Warsengeli and Dhulbahante, lol. He's just doing propaganda.

SNM was fighting the SNA 26th Division and South African mercenaries. There were more divisions in Somaliland too by 1990. SNM was fighting maybe most of the SNA. I'm sure some people know the full details.

What a bold faced lie, most of the SNA division were in the south and the few in the north were still scattering SNM rebels everything they appeared how many tune you get your ass whooped and ran back across the itoobiyan border. It was only until USC cut the line of supplies to the northern sna divisions did they fold after exhausting their supplies.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

What a bold faced lie, most of the SNA division were in the south and the few in the north were still scattering SNM rebels everything they appeared how many tune you get your ass whooped and ran back across the itoobiyan border. It was only until USC cut the line of supplies to the northern sna divisions did they fold after exhausting their supplies.

Where's your sources?

 

[TheLand]

Where's your sources?

Lol where are your sources?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Why would Gadabuursi incorporate a different clan so far everyone of us tested has been T-L208, either way genetic testing will prove one of us right, just need Jaarso and Akisho tested, all Dirs tested so have only gotten T-L208 and E-V32, one of the Gurgura who is E-V32 is getting a Yfull soon so will see where he lands in the tree amongst other Somalis, my money is on they'll cluster with HA E-V32.

Dir and Isaaq, the same T? How closely related are you guys?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Lol where are your sources?

I found his source.

Somaliland is Fake, 1993, Gedo Village Publishing.

 

[TheLand]

I found his source.

Somaliland is Fake, 1993, Gedo Village Publishing.

Where is YOUR source, genius?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Where is YOUR source, genius?

He made the claim. Why are you asking me?

 

[TheLand]

He made the claim. Why are you asking me?

You made this claim with no sources to back it up and he was responding to that genius

He said SNM was made to attack Warsengeli and Dhulbahante, lol. He's just doing propaganda.

SNM was fighting the SNA 26th Division and South African mercenaries. There were more divisions in Somaliland too by 1990. SNM was fighting maybe most of the SNA. I'm sure some people know the full details.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You made this claim with no sources to back it up and he was responding to that genius

So why you only asking me?

 

[TheLand]

So why you only asking me?

Who else should I ask? You already asked the other guy lol. You are just ridiculous.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Who else should I ask? You already asked the other guy lol. You are just ridiculous.

Why are you pressuring me and not him?

 

[TheLand]

Why are you pressuring me and not him?

Why are you deflecting and not providing sources while asking him to provide sources? Logic is really not your strong suit is it, bud?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Why are you deflecting and not providing sources while asking him to provide sources? Logic is really not your strong suit is it, bud?

Why are you letting him off the hook?