JL agreed to hand over Kismayo port & airport to FGS

[Bowda-dheer]

You’re both thinking in HAG terms/agenda like in 2013.

This is the IC wanting centralise Somalia to get access to loans and expect them to find a way to pay them back as the FGS would have larger revenues by having control of more than Xamar economically. Very little to do with HAG imo.

HSM won’t have a choice over how funds are split. He won’t get to use those loans to bribe his HG allies.

Also IC quickly sanction anyone who backs out of these sorts of deals. Both FGS and FMS will have to honour them.

What’s the point of a our constitution ( federalism) if the international community wants the government to run the ports and airports ? I highly doubt that’s what’s going on. This sort of things will never happen in somalialnd or puntland. A centralized somalia will never happen bro and if it happens it will be a reer cabudwaaq led somalia hhhh

 

[FBIsomalia]

In federal countries ports and airports been management by Federal states. South Somalia states need to fight HAG and dont let them drag back to 1991.

 

[Abaq]

Wuu ma boqna gooyay awoowgiis la gub. I just hope Madobe is not being genuine as usual. Giving over control to Xamar is a disaster

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

What’s the point of a our constitution ( federalism) if the international community wants the government to run the ports and airports ? I highly doubt that’s what’s going on. This sort of things will never happen in somalialnd or puntland. A centralized somalia will never happen bro and if it happens it will be a reer cabudwaaq led somalia hhhh

Get off our nuts

Farmaajo sat on the throne for half a decade just 8 months ago, we don't want to lead Somalia saxib. Good luck to the Hutus and Cagdheer, may the best man win, we have retired from Somalia and nationalism.

 

[Prince of HS]

Get off our nuts

Farmaajo sat on the throne for half a decade just 8 months ago, we don't want to lead Somalia saxib. Good luck to the Hutus and Cagdheer, may the best man win, we have retired from Somalia and nationalism.

Don’t come with that bullshit. You and your kind were never nationalists

 

[Jungle]

Most of my predictions have come true. Great to see but we won't be happy until Bosaaso port revenue comea under us.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Don’t come with that bullshit. You and your kind were never nationalists

Happy new year broski cafis lets start 2023 clean slate

 

[Prince of HS]

Happy new year broski cafis lets start 2023 clean slate

Happy 2023 walaal

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Most of my predictions have come true. Great to see

What predictions have come true?

but we won't be happy until Bosaaso port revenue comea under us.

And who is the US in this context?

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Get off our nuts

Farmaajo sat on the throne for half a decade just 8 months ago, we don't want to lead Somalia saxib. Good luck to the Hutus and Cagdheer, may the best man win, we have retired from Somalia and nationalism.

What I said is true bro you have a way of pulling something like that while the Hawiye and other daaroods can never do dictatorship with majority of the people on your side.

 

[Bowda-dheer]

Most of my predictions have come true. Great to see but we won't be happy until Bosaaso port revenue comea under us.

Mj are the last people that will do that you have better chance of taking a plane over to berbera and taking it over. Mj is a different breed when it comes Hawiye.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

In a normal federal country, Airports and ports are managed by the federal gov. But we are far from a normal country. Walahi i wouldnt even want my own brother to control PL ports and airports if he was the federal president. We need to seriously sit down as reer PL and discuss our future. I wouldn't even allow any federal presence whether its NISA, courts or military. Can you imagine someone like Mahad Salad appointing people in PL?

 

[Bowda-dheer]

I’m not even a fan of Mahad Salaad being head of NISA myself but Puntland need to make it clear if they want federalism, confederalism or outright secessionism. This is confusing and just seems like qaran dumis activities to me

I love in a federal government constitutional government and the airports and and ports are managed by the cities not even the states forget the federal government.

 

[X29]

Mark my word Wallahi Deni is taking Puntland into the wilderness of development for 10 years.

A friend of mine I was talking to, who works for the FGS was telling me their plan once the debt completion point is reached.
FGS will seek to get 3-5 billion dollars from IMF and other agencies to develop ports and key infrastructure, if Puntland is outside of the scope of the FGS they will not receive a cent. That's why the FGS doesn't care whether Puntland signs it or not.



You are right, they can, but they will not get much. The FGS has the upper hand and I don't think they will upset the rest of the FMS just to please Puntland. This is just my take.

I have quick question what does your friend say about shabaab and does he have any views on whether they can finally be defeated.

 

[canjeeroiyoshah]

In a normal federal country, Airports and ports are managed by the federal gov. But we are far from a normal country. Walahi i wouldnt even want my own brother to control PL ports and airports if he was the federal president. We need to seriously sit down as reer PL and discuss our future. I wouldn't even allow any federal presence whether its NISA, courts or military. Can you imagine someone like Mahad Salad appointing people in PL?

It's insane how some people can forget what the country went through and then try to reinstate the same type of governance when trust has been lost. Somalis lack self-reflection.

Imo when it comes to PL the only ministries that should come under the FGS are Foreign Affairs, Finance, Constitutional Affairs and a few other menial ones.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Well, well, well.

Looks like Madoobe has been told to PAY UP!

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Well, well, well.

Looks like Madoobe has been told to PAY UP!

But A Madoobe is wisening up rather quickly, resisting, and realising it is over for him if he dares hand over State's primary sources of revenue.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

But A Madoobe is resisting realising it is over for him if he dares hand over State's primary sources of revenue.

Why on earth did he sign it in the first place?? Is he not literate??

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Why on earth did he sign it in the first place?? Is he not literate??

I think the current term popularised by Goojacadde is 'waa la taagay'. Are your familiar with that? I think it means, he was voodoo'ed!

 

[Waamo Warrior]

Can someone enlighten me what Madoobe stance is right now? He initially handed over the ports to the government but now he’s backtracking? Am I right in this assumption