brother inquiste_ xaaf (GM) and cosble(HS) went with farmaajo on same plane to london, while gaas and madobe (to kenya) went by themselves this clearly shows whos pro-government and spoilers!
London Predatory Carnival On Somalia - Great Article on the new British model for Somalia
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Long gone are the days of central government Alhamdulillah it went down with affweyne we have a federal system no one can dictate to no one & this moryan & Puntland don't have the same agenda so keep up with your drivel & concentrate on hirsheeble iyo galnusmudug.
Prince of Lasanod
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The 18,000 soldiers that will be integrated/recruited into the SNA come from each region in Somalia. 3000 from Puntland, 3000 from Galmudug, 3000 from SW, 3000 from Hiirshabelle and 3000 from Jubbaland. So how is it representative of a single clan when it's equally shared?
7. The SNA forces, numbering at least 18,000, shall be distributed across existing SNA sectors (12th, 21st, 43rd, 49th, 48th, 54th, 26th and 60th).
Having the Somali army under federal Presidents which visit Ethiopia 10 times in a month? Having the Somali army under federal Presidents which wanted to turn Jubbaland into a buffer zone for Kenya? Your asking for something that doesn't exist in any country!
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"Steal our land"
our land
ours...
Really wish someone came to power and threw all these qabilist in the Gulag (located at the bottom of the Indian ocean).
To all those that want to hold on to the enclaves the British handed out to travelling nomadic clans... conquer it and turn it into your own country through conventional means.
The current methods of trying to scrape some power and resources for your clan by weaking Somalia would just end up in failure.
The meat will be taken by Brits and the soup will be shared by it's local cronies. All you've achieved is killing Somalia's chance at rebirth and tarnishing your clan's legacy.
A united Somalia might be difficult to hold together initially but once we start; it would be difficult for external agents to infiltrate and sabotage our development.
That's right.
Show how nationalistic you are by quoting me and NOT the guy who said his state would take all of MUDUG by force, he even used nazi terminology but I guess you can't read or comprehend "qabiilism" unless it's a post written by someone from Puntland.
Keep proving my point about you fraudulent "patriots".
Didn't see that post but my point wasn't just targeted at you even though I quoted your ass. All qabilists are the enemies of Somalia.
Inquisitive_
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Sxb Ignore those people, that's the best medicine that burns them, they want you to mud wrestle with them so you come out as dirty at the other end as they are, nothing pisses them off more then when you climb above their petty discourse.
@Prince of Lasanod
Your right but things are more complicated then those simplistic views, the Anglo American should be looked at as one major group with different interest groups within them that have different viewpoints each vying the other for power.
The Obama Berzinsky model was allied closely with the British whereas the Neocons (whom are in power now) have a different model in terms of Somalia closer to the Egyptian model ( neocons just came to power)
The Berzinsky model is Micro states and Mini States under Obama, they love Islamic groups hence they brought to power Khomeni in Iran 1979 and the Ikhwan more recently in Egypt. They love these groups for a couple of reasons which include (destabilisation) hence the funding of the Afghans against Russia.
The Neocons oppose all of this and prefer an open intervention approach (not a death by a thousand cuts). These two fractions regularly clash on implementation but their end goal is the same, don't ever think they are united.
Berzinsky lays this out in his famous grand chess board book the micro-state, mini-state model he champions and using Islamic fundamentalist as a weapon and tool against Russia, this way no one can challenge the status quo.
Sxb Ignore those people, that's the best medicine that burns them, they want you to mud wrestle with them so you come out as dirty at the other end as they are, nothing pisses them off more then when you climb above their petty discourse.
@Prince of Lasanod
Your right but things are more complicated then those simplistic views, the Anglo American should be looked at as one major group with different interest groups within them that have different viewpoints each vying the other for power.
The Obama Berzinsky model was allied closely with the British whereas the Neocons (whom are in power now) have a different model in terms of Somalia closer to the Egyptian model ( neocons just came to power)
The Berzinsky model is Micro states and Mini States under Obama, they love Islamic groups hence they brought to power Khomeni in Iran 1979 and the Ikhwan more recently in Egypt. They love these groups for a couple of reasons which include (destabilisation) hence the funding of the Afghans against Russia.
The Neocons oppose all of this and prefer an open intervention approach (not a death by a thousand cuts). These two fractions regularly clash on implementation but their end goal is the same, don't ever think they are united.
Berzinsky lays this out in his famous grand chess board book the micro-state, mini-state model he champions and using Islamic fundamentalist as a weapon and tool against Russia, this way no one can challenge the status quo.
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True but it's a war of memes out here. If I don't debunk their bs; they might end up converting a few lost souls over time.
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You all advocate for federalism, and I understand your view point. But you're defending the status quo of Somalia as being actual federalism. It's not.
When both of these falls onto the hands of states, Somalia is no longer a federal country, but a mere coalition of mini-countries. And the fact that these Governors are acting like fucking Presidents is the precursor.
Still, we have federalism to reduce infighting right?
What we have now is not federalism. Actual federalism would be what you're all opposing.
In a Federal System, only the FG can do foreign policy and only the Federal Government controls the National Army.
Self governance will still exist, like it does it every other Federal country in the world.
You all advocate for federalism, and I understand your view point. But you're defending the status quo of Somalia as being actual federalism. It's not.
Foreign affairs and National Security are literally one of the only important jobs of any Federal Government.
When both of these falls onto the hands of states, Somalia is no longer a federal country, but a mere coalition of mini-countries. And the fact that these Governors are acting like fucking Presidents is the precursor.
Still, we have federalism to reduce infighting right?
But what we're seeing is the country becoming more divided. And each state has either their own political parties, a clan lockdown on power or something to that degree.
What we have now is not federalism. Actual federalism would be what you're all opposing.
In a Federal System, only the FG can do foreign policy and only the Federal Government controls the National Army.
Self governance will still exist, like it does it every other Federal country in the world.
U don't know that song? Hathii kale waxaa jiraa basically means if i dont get it my way I'll f*ck up everything and everyone
- Some context.
1) uk reason for holding this is because of the current "momentum" to help aid the country
2) unlike past conference UK lacks leverage as somali has (turkey,Eu, and usa) that it can work closers with
3) due to brexit UK needs Key supplies such as oil and cheap labour. hence if they can provide and own security platform early, they have first say on these resources
4) UK has shown it's true nature working with UAE pushing for bases,it's soma oil deal that came from the last london conference and finally the largest ngo to somalia "adam smith" was found to be corrupt. This was a blessing as it finally showed UK true colors
UK can plot but I trust farmaajo and Co to slap these vultures back to their rainy island. AMIIN
Amiin
I don't mind Farmaajo giving SomaOil the rights to Somali's oil even if it means a really crappy royalties percentage. However in return they would need to allow Somalia to rebuild without sabotaging it at every turn like they've been doing it since they drew our borders.
Somalia only needs a small source of income to get things started and sovereignty to get things done within it's own borders to retake it's previous position in Africa within 15 years.
Gambar
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Over my dead body. Naa daaya baan ku idhi.the capital should be moved to bosaso to win the hearts and minds of puntlanders and then have a centralist government
Gambar
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Make it Berbera :siilaanyolaugh:
Bohol
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How is she your inabti? You have no connections to Cidagale or Darood Lol. You can call her sister-in-law though.
Gambar
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My ayeyo is Habar Awal. Although he's a Nuux Ismaciil elitist.
waraabe
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