Marital rape is real

[Lum]

Walaal If the husband is denied his rights, does that mean he has the right to abuse and rape her in response?

Do you honestly think that a legitimate way to deal with a wife that refuses intimacy?

When did I say the husband is allowed to mistreat his wife? I merely said that if one is frequently denied their right it will put a strain on their marriage. That’s all.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Where does it say in the Sharia that a man that sexually abuse or rape his wife?

Also, just because the Sharia states that a woman should not deny her husband sex without legitimate reasons, does not mean the husband as a response can rape her.

Can someone here even provide any evidence that a man can rape/ abuse a woman in response to her saying no?

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."


https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/48

 

[HalimaJ]

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."


https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/48

Yes, the angels will curse her, she will be sinning. But please tell me, where in that hadith does it state the husband can rape her.

Please read next time before answering.

 

[HalimaJ]

When did I say the husband is allowed to mistreat his wife? I merely said that if one is frequently denied their right it will put a strain on their marriage. That’s all.

That seems to be the view most men here have. They are distorting a hadith to justify abuse and rape.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."


https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/48

The Hadith clearly states the Wife will be cursed by the Angels for sinning, but nowhere does it say the Husband can rape his wife.

The fact we're even discussing/debating whether Martial rape even exists is disturbing wallah. Too many degenerates on this forum.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

The Hadith clearly states the Wife will be cursed by the Angels for sinning, but no where does it say the Husband can rape his wife.

The fact we're even discussing/debating whether Martial rape even exists is disturbing wallah. Too many degenerates on this forum.

- Holy Quran Chapter 4 Surah Nissa verse 34

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

 

[HalimaJ]

- Holy Quran Chapter 4 Surah Nissa verse 34

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Again, no mention of raping them or sexually abusing them. At this point you're just choosing random hadiths and Quraan ayah without any scholarly commentaries.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

- Holy Quran Chapter 4 Surah Nissa verse 34

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

No mention of rape again, are you actually arguing in favour of Men raping their Wives?

This is shocking wallah.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Again, no mention of raping them or sexually abusing them. At this point you're just choosing random hadiths and Quraan ayah without any scholarly commentaries.

No mention of rape again, are you actually arguing in favour of Men raping their Wives?

This is shocking wallah.

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3272 Narrated by Abu Hurayrah

When Allah's Messenger (saws) was asked which woman was best he (saws) replied, "The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves."

 

[HalimaJ]

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3272 Narrated by Abu Hurayrah

When Allah's Messenger (saws) was asked which woman was best he (saws) replied, "The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves."

Please explain what that has to do with rape and abuse? I'm actually really confused now.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

No mention of rape again, are you actually arguing in favour of Men raping their Wives?

This is shocking wallah.

Women are allowed to ask their husband for sex without his permission. Its vice versa no one in the marriage has a say if he/she does not want to have sex endless the women is on her period or if it is Ramadan.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Please explain what that has to do with rape and abuse? I'm actually really confused now.

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3272 Narrated by Abu Hurayrah

When Allah's Messenger (saws) was asked which woman was best he (saws) replied, "The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves."

When a husband requests for anything (including sex), Prophet Muhamed saw clearly states that the wife has to obey her husband.

 

[HalimaJ]

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3272 Narrated by Abu Hurayrah

When Allah's Messenger (saws) was asked which woman was best he (saws) replied, "The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves."

Again, does that mean the husband can abuse her? All the hadith and ayahs you have posted is about how the woman has to conduct herself. Not that the husband can raper/abuse her.

We are talking about rape.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Again, does that mean the husband can abuse her? All the hadith and ayahs you have posted is about how the woman has to conduct herself. Not that the husband can raper/abuse her.

We are talking about rape.

I edited my post, read it above.

 

[HalimaJ]

I edited my post, read it above.

Okay, but where does it say that IF she does not obey him, he can then rape her.

We are not debating about whether or not she has to obey him. We are talking about how the husband responds if she does not obey him.

Again, you're not answering the question.

 

[Factz]

Raping your wife is actually haram. It's not part of the deen. However, refusing intimacy with your husband is also extremely haram. Both the husband and the wife do not need the permission of their spouse to get satisfaction.

One of the biggest reasons why divorce cases happen is because there is no intimacy and sexual attraction between both couples. It goes for both men and women. The only solution to safe your marriage from divorce or avoid polygamy is to be ready when your husband or wife is feeling horny.

Islamically speaking, the more sex you have the more rewards you get and satisfying your spouse and taking care of their needs. You are the people of Ahlul Jannah.

 

[Lum]

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."


https://sunnah.com/bukhari/59/48

The Hadith clearly states the Wife will be cursed by the Angels for sinning, but no where does it say the Husband can rape his wife.

The fact we're even discussing/debating whether Martial rape even exists is disturbing wallah. Too many degenerates on this forum.

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 3272 Narrated by Abu Hurayrah

When Allah's Messenger (saws) was asked which woman was best he (saws) replied, "The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves."

When a husband requests for anything (including sex), Prophet Muhamed saw clearly states that the wife has to obey her husband.

you should write out the entire supplication.

 

[VixR]

I wouldn’t have guessed Timo Madow to be the next to join the demented ones. The extreme views on the forum actually turn the guys reading it over time. I’ve seen it happen several times by now.

Unfollow.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

I wouldn’t have guessed Timo Madow to be the next to join the demented ones. The extreme views on the forum actually turn the guys reading it over time. I’ve seen it happen several times by now.

Unfollow.

Ok, I've already stated that wives can request sex without the consent of their husbands.

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

Okay, but where does it say that IF she does not obey him, he can then rape her.

We are not debating about whether or not she has to obey him. We are talking about how the husband responds if she does not obey him.

Again, you're not answering the question.

I've already answered your question multiple times.