Musa gives Ethiopia a port and a military base on the Gulf of Aden. It's over

[Zak12]

But we are 100% for recognition

There are better ways to get recognition instead of allowing Ethiopia justification to annex your lands

But we 100% know Somalia is our main enemy and once to destroy us

If they wanted to destroy you they would have done it a long time ago. HSM is very lenient to SL and considers Puntland to be far more of a threat.

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

You may laugh and think we're not a state but we most be something to make deals with foreign nations while your so called 'real state' is helpless to do anything about it. Like did not see the tour HSM a while ago begging every country to help protect Somalia's so called 'sovereignty'. You have to admit that was quite pathetic. You unionist need to be more humble that's my suggestion your ideas would come off better.

I didn't claim there was any state this is what happens when you make assumptions

Also you don't necessarily need to be a state to enter into negotiations the Lebanese group that's now in government wasn't a 'state'

 

[Sup]

You may laugh and think we're not a state but we most be something to make deals with foreign nations while your so called 'real state' is helpless to do anything about it. Like did not see the tour HSM a while ago begging every country to help protect Somalia's so called 'sovereignty'. You have to admit that was quite pathetic. You unionist need to be more humble that's my suggestion your ideas would come off better.

It’s been 33 years, what deals have come to fruition exactly ? What gains have you lot made. You underestimate the “weak FGS” they could collapse your fragile economy overnight, wouldn’t be to hard considering everything you use is under Somalia’s name . You shouldn’t be talking about begging bud, “your humble servant” kulaha

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

There are better ways to get recognition instead of allowing Ethiopia justification to annex your lands

If they wanted to destroy you they would have done it a long time ago. HSM is very lenient to SL and considers Puntland to be far more of a threat.

The whole 'destruction' thing is a lie 33 sano loo akhrinayay

It was one of the few things they used to try and create unity or at least distract from their own corruption and abysmal failure- 'oh if you don't listen to us, the bogeyman (the South) will come and get you!

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

There are better ways to get recognition instead of allowing Ethiopia justification to annex your lands

If they wanted to destroy you they would have done it a long time ago. HSM is very lenient to SL and considers Puntland to be far more of a threat.

HSM has no power against SL. SL is unified block of millions of people opposed to him. He is struggling with ten thousand long beards in the south lol.

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

HSM has no power against SL. SL is unified block of millions of people opposed to him. He is struggling with ten thousand long beards in the south lol.

Just so you know as one very simple example, if HSM wanted to (this would not be moral) he could collapse the entire financial system of SL in a matter of hours- the Zaad system used there is owned by Hormuud via Telesom. There are many other such examples Somaliland is 'independent' in name only.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Just so you know as one very simple example, if HSM wanted to (this would not be moral) he could collapse the entire financial system of SL in a matter of hours- the Zaad system used there is owned by Hormuud via Telesom. There are many other such examples Somaliland is 'independent' in name only.

Lol. That would be an option if he's given up but then alternatives would be found in a short time. He's smarter than you so he's not going to bare his fangs like that.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

We will never see the MoU as a bad deal, never see Mogadishu as an option. Just give up, lol.
Somaliland is the only political program. There's no real federal system so there's no SL within Somalia. Somaliland or bust. It's very simple.

Your arguments are roughly that if you sign the MoU SL will be destroyed. Except the MoU recongizes SL within it's 1960 borders and Mogadishu indirectly recognizes SSc, so really your argument is a nonsense. It's like brain damaged argument.

The MoU is unequivocal whereas Mogadishu supports its' own sovereignty over the territory whether it's SL or SL and something called SSC, or neither and just a centralized government.

 

[Warzio7]

Even if it is on Isaaq territory it is still something to be opposed Ethiopian military presence on Somali territory is treasonous.

you guys just bounce back and fourth between claiming land to be Somali terrority or clan territory. If your talking Sool its Dhulo's land, if its Awdal it's Sameroon/issa land. When were talking Berbera all of sudden its Somali terrority and not Isaaq's. That's why no one takes yall serious.

 

[Warzio7]

It’s been 33 years, what deals have come to fruition exactly ? What gains have you lot made. You underestimate the “weak FGS” they could collapse your fragile economy overnight, wouldn’t be to hard considering everything you use is under Somalia’s name . You shouldn’t be talking about begging bud, “your humble servant” kulaha

We did DP world port deal. I thought your 'government' banned them? what happened Mr. reer sovereignty? https://www.africanews.com/2018/03/...-s-berbera-port-deal-with-dp-world-ethiopia//

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

you guys just bounce back and fourth between claiming land to be Somali terrority or clan territory. If your talking Sool its Dhulo's land, if its Awdal it's Sameroon/issa land. When were talking Berbera all of sudden its Somali terrority and not Isaaq's. That's why no one takes yall serious.

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[Sup]

We did DP world port deal. I thought your 'government' banned them? what happened Mr. reer sovereignty? https://www.africanews.com/2018/03/...-s-berbera-port-deal-with-dp-world-ethiopia//

33 years and you got a port contract underway, well done mate, your the envy of the world

Do a bit more research there bud and you’ll see the govts dirty fingers all over that deal

Make sure you let your independent president know not to miss his next cheque pickup in Xamar independent Kulaha

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

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You don't have a right to talk about other clans land under your own belief system. Each clan can do exactly what they want right?

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

You don't have a right to talk about other clans land under your own belief system. Each clan can do exactly what they want right?

You're just waffling now you don't even know what you are saying.

Illiterate, extreme, a Ethiopian loyalist, the list of characteristics only increases with each day that passes

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You're just waffling now you don't even know what you are saying.

Illiterate, extreme, a Ethiopian loyalist, the list of characteristics only increases with each day that passes

If you aren't arguing honestly doesn't take long until you find yourself if in a contradicton.

You are against SL independence full stop, whether ethiopians are involved or not.
When it serves your point you make the clan sovereignty arguement, when it doesn't serve your point you make some other arguement like now you don't want them in SL. You don't even believe in SL lol.

 

[Warzio7]

Just so you know as one very simple example, if HSM wanted to (this would not be moral) he could collapse the entire financial system of SL in a matter of hours- the Zaad system used there is owned by Hormuud via Telesom. There are many other such examples Somaliland is 'independent' in name only.

We have our own Somaliland currency bro. we'll just switch to hard currency and the backlash will be that we just hate Somalia more and our resolve will grow stronger. There's no winning for you guys ...just give up. We believe in our country, we're true nationalist unlike Somalians.

 

[daljirkadahsoon]

If you aren't arguing honestly doesn't take long until you find yourself if in a contradicton.

You are against SL independence full stop, whether ethiopians are involved or not.
When it serves your point you make the clan sovereignty arguement, when it doesn't serve your point you make some other arguement like now you don't want them in SL. You don't even believe in SL lol.

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[Itsnotthateasy]

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You see you fall back on another disingenious argument which is basically hold SL to some impossible standard (while holding others to no standards btw) or it shouldn't exist.

SL doens't need to abide by your standards. If you were sensible you would hope to reform Mogadishu but then maybe you are actually sensible and realize it's beyond redemption. SL ain't perfect but people need to get on board and deal with it.

 

[Warzio7]

33 years and you got a port contract underway, well done mate, your the envy of the world

Do a bit more research there bud and you’ll see the govts dirty fingers all over that deal

Make sure you let your independent president know not to miss his next cheque pickup in Xamar independent Kulaha

So basically your ok with your government being so corrupt as long as Somaliland doesn't have any independence. Thats some serious Z88malian thinking lol

 

[Sup]

So basically your ok with your government being so corrupt as long as Somaliland doesn't have any independence. That some serious an thinking there lol

Well you know what they say about assumptions my good lad. “Z88malian” bruv what do they put in the water over there take a look in the mirror my guy, you insecure little man.