There is no such thing as "ethnically swahili" swahili isnt a ethnicity or anything like it. Barawanis are basically the Latinas of somalia, they are mixture of many settlers around the coast the inhabit (indian,Persian, bantu, somali, arab..etc)
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First of all mixtures depends on family, Barawani/ Reer Barawa means the the original people of the stone town of barawa.There's Arab ,Persian, Bantu,Tunni clans that are barawani. There aren't any Indian barawani clans.
Arabs or lightskinned people in general don't only live in barawa they live allover banadir coast and in the interior aswell.
tunni is a multi ethnic confederacy, barawani isn't an ethnic group. Urban tunnis are barawani and they speak chimini
Tunni is a confederacy itself and only the urban tunnis are barawani
I refuse to believe that these communities don't know they have Hindi DNA, come on now, look in the mirror, that's not an Arab face, baby.
That clan structure is incorrect,it's saying all the subclans are from other clans when rather it's certain sub sub clans that have those origin. For example Hajuwa clan has 13+ sub clans that book only mentions 4 of them .Each Tunni clan has multiple sub clans that are original Tunni by lineage
Biida is an alliance of over a dozen clans and large families you have to be specific which clan and sub clan, Ra Mashaanga are part of biida . Saying biida doesn't give any beneficial info .Also saying tunni is vague .
Her grandads sheekhaal parent could be barawani, depending on which sheekhaal clan they are.
It does mean original it was only reer barawa who lived in the town till 1800s when Indians came,same for xamar and marka. There's hardly been much barawani tests and certainly not from every barawani clan to say that. The families that are mixed with indian get Indian percentages
If by reer Barawa u mean the ethnic somali ones like tunni then i agree. Because somalis expended to the south from few thousand years ago. And this is basic fact considering Rendille (lost somali tribe) have been inhabitants of north frontier district of kenya since before islam reached somalis
Reer barawa=Barawani clans, only the urban tunnis are barawani not the tunnis that lived in the hinterlands.
Also if you by ethnic somali you mean descendants of sab and samaale then that's a false definition, Samaale & Sab and their families weren't the only two families in the horn there was definitely hundreds of other groups who's descendants are still present in the horn till this day and Haplogroups have shown that.Also Tunni is a multi-ethnic confederacy.
There's historians that say Rendille used to be Muslim and then left the deen.
Do we even know anything about the rendile? Iβm assuming their history/mythology would be extremely useful for Somalis
Sxb this person is barawanis
Funny how ur trying to loosen wat somali means
. What other group of people are not ethnic somali who are native to the horn/somalia? Rendille not being majority or even 50% muslims entails that they left their somali larger family before islam got to us...Eyle , boon,madanle were all in south before sab and samaale clansFunny how ur trying to loosen wat somali means
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It's a well known fact that barawe was initially settled by garres and later on by the tunnis. The biida or chimwiini people only came around the 14th century. The biida or chimwiini people all have somali admixture with the possible exception of those who came in the 19th century.
The chimwiini language which belongs to the northern swahili language group have borrowed heavily from af soomaali and even the original proto northern swahili language that was spoken in the lamu archipelago had somali loans in it. It's not that surprising since the aweer previously called boon are themselves speakers of af garre and live in close proximity to the lamu archipelago.
Siu itself on the lamu archipelago had a somali ruling family from the early 17th century but it could very well be older than that. An interesting thing that i come across is that the famo or the swahili ruler traced origin to many people such as omanis but also somalis and he had great relationship with the geledis who lived all the way in afgoyo. It's even said that the famo helped out the geledi in the bardere war.
The madanle and boon are all somalis and while one could argue that eyle could possible belong to the original hunter gatherers of somalia there is no tangible evidence to prove this.
The chimwiini language which belongs to the northern swahili language group have borrowed heavily from af soomaali and even the original proto northern swahili language that was spoken in the lamu archipelago had somali loans in it. It's not that surprising since the aweer previously called boon are themselves speakers of af garre and live in close proximity to the lamu archipelago.
Siu itself on the lamu archipelago had a somali ruling family from the early 17th century but it could very well be older than that. An interesting thing that i come across is that the famo or the swahili ruler traced origin to many people such as omanis but also somalis and he had great relationship with the geledis who lived all the way in afgoyo. It's even said that the famo helped out the geledi in the bardere war.
The madanle and boon are all somalis and while one could argue that eyle could possible belong to the original hunter gatherers of somalia there is no tangible evidence to prove this.
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So you guys arenβt afraid that these dna companies store youβre dna and use for other purposes ?
It's a well known fact that barawe was initially settled by garres and later on by the tunnis. The biida or chimwiini people only came around the 14th century. The biida or chimwiini people all have somali admixture with the possible exception of those who came in the 19th century.
The chimwiini language which belongs to the northern swahili language group have borrowed heavily from af soomaali and even the original proto northern swahili language that was spoken in the lamu archipelago had somali loans in it. It's not that surprising since the aweer previously called boon are themselves speakers of af garre and live in close proximity to the lamu archipelago.
Siu itself on the lamu archipelago had a somali ruling family from the early 17th century but it could very well be older than that. An interesting thing that i come across is that the famo or the swahili ruler traced origin to many people such as omanis but also somalis and he had great relationship with the geledis who lived all the way in afgoyo. It's even said that the famo helped out the geledi in the bardere war.
The madanle and boon are all somalis and while one could argue that eyle could possible belong to the original hunter gatherers of somalia there is no tangible evidence to prove this.
Linguistics backs you up as well:
Linguistics strongly seems to impart that they and Bajunis are later comers predated by the Somaloid groups in the area like the Garre and Tunni. Their historical traditions pretty much say as much as well. All these claims now made by weirdos online of them being more native than the Somali groups seems to just be cuqdad riddled minorities trying to revise history.
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Thanks for this info. We even have remains of 3500 year old Cushitic pastoralist in Kenya.
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