No Xishood having Xalimo holds a burping contest with her racially ambiguous ajnabi boyfriend

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Jake from State Farm

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Abdalla

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Not wearing hijab is haram = no haddod law

Smoking weed/ shisha- no hadood punishment

Lying is haraam= no haddod law

Kissing and hugging the opp gender= no hadood

Your knowledge of Islam is very limited and then you tried to create your own fatwa.:faysalwtf:

You got your hadith from google. I copied and pasted from reputable sites issued by well know Muftis who not only explained the hadith YOU posted but also the quranic verse on the gravity of honor killing. I'm not the one passing off my own interpretation of a hadith as Islam!

I didn't need to rely on google as I already knew this is haraam. But if I am going to state something i like to back it up with proof from those that are more knowlegable than me.

You on the other hand actually made up a ruling about permissability, with no scholarly proof and even misinterpreted the hadith and proceeded to insult my intelligence.

I'm insulting you because suggesting that something that heinous is permissable is shocking.

No, her father was pretty calm as she was divorced and thought the guy was good for her.

Even if she begged and begged her dad and he ultimatley yielded still doesn't change the fact that her marriage is halal as her wali still gave her away.

All those actions are haram though and have consequences such as the curse of Allah falling upon the ones that lie, a liar being a hypocrite, touching is a form of zina. Theres no prove that smoking is haram, at most it is makruuh. You are mixing up a lot of things walahi.
 
Not wearing hijab is haram = no haddod law

Smoking weed/ shisha still no hadood punishment

Lying is haraam= no haddod law

Kissing and hugging the opp gender as long as intercourse does not take place= no hadood.

Does that mean all this is acceptable???

Your knowledge of Islam is very limited and then you tried to create your own fatwa.:faysalwtf:

I gave you the ruling of a scholar along with his proof from quran and sunnah explaining it.

You got your hadith from google. I copied and pasted from reputable sites issued by well know Muftis who not only explained the hadith YOU posted but also the quranic verse on the gravity of honor killing. I'm not the one passing off my own interpretation of a hadith as Islam!

I didn't need to rely on google as I already knew this is haraam. But if I am going to state something i like to back it up with proof from those that are more knowlegable than me.

You on the other hand actually made up a ruling about permissability, with no scholarly proof and even misinterpreted the hadith and proceeded to insult my intelligence.

I'm insulting you because suggesting that something that heinous is permissable is shocking.

No, her father was pretty calm as she was divorced and thought the guy was good for her.

Even if she begged and begged her dad and he ultimatley yielded still doesn't change the fact that her marriage is halal as her wali still gave her away.

sis how old are you btw?
 
I can already see it @HalimaJ came in here thinking she is gonna talk sense to people and educate them. Slowly but surely she will change though and already started the name calling. Before you know she will be just like us.....attack anyone we dont like. HalimaJ sis dont fight your inner somali and stop with the making sense. Just attack people, it feels much better. Specially @AussieHustler start with this guy

Looool, but i don't want to attack anyone.

I only started being disrespectful towards him as is views on honor killing and trying to say Islam gives the green light to kill is sadistic.
 

Karim

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Not wearing hijab is haram = no haddod law

Smoking weed/ shisha still no hadood punishment

Lying is haraam= no haddod law

Kissing and hugging the opp gender as long as intercourse does not take place= no hadood.

Does that mean all this is acceptable???

Your knowledge of Islam is very limited and then you tried to create your own fatwa.:faysalwtf:

I gave you the ruling of a scholar along with his proof from quran and sunnah explaining it.

You got your hadith from google. I copied and pasted from reputable sites issued by well know Muftis who not only explained the hadith YOU posted but also the quranic verse on the gravity of honor killing. I'm not the one passing off my own interpretation of a hadith as Islam!

I didn't need to rely on google as I already knew this is haraam. But if I am going to state something i like to back it up with proof from those that are more knowlegable than me.

You on the other hand actually made up a ruling about permissability, with no scholarly proof and even misinterpreted the hadith and proceeded to insult my intelligence.

I'm insulting you because suggesting that something that heinous is permissable is shocking.

No, her father was pretty calm as she was divorced and thought the guy was good for her.

Even if she begged and begged her dad and he ultimatley yielded still doesn't change the fact that her marriage is halal as her wali still gave her away.
The difference between your argument and @Abdalla's argument is the time of the action.
Is it permissible to kill someone without a major reason?!! Of course NOT... But that question gets asked before action had taken place.

What's the punishment of The custodian if he kills his sister/daughter?!! NONE.

THAT'S the difference between you two.
 
Looool, but i don't want to attack anyone.

I only started being disrespectful towards him as is views on honor killing and trying to say Islam gives the green light to kill is sadistic.
for now....we all been there. But the change is gonna be subtle. You cant honor kill, but you can disown. Several posters here has already been disowned lol. But my advise to you would be careful of using sites for clarifications. On the internet you can find a site that will give you permission for anything if you seek long enough
 
All those actions are haram though and have consequences such as the curse of Allah falling upon the ones that lie, a liar being a hypocrite, touching is a form of zina. Theres no prove that smoking is haram, at most it is makruuh. You are mixing up a lot of things walahi.

Yes, you are correct. All of that means you will be cursed by Allah, but there is no state punishment which is what hadood is.

Hadood is punishement dished by the state.
I can't believe i am debating with someone that doesn't know what hadood punishment is.

I've just provided scholarly evidence along with the quran that killing your offspring will result in punishment in the Akiraa. You refuse to read.

The Qur’an states, “and whosoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is Hell; he shall abide in it, and God shall send His wrath upon him, curse him, and prepare for him a painful chastisement.”

It's just that there are no retaliatory punishment (qisas). There is a difference between worly punishment like hadood and the punishment in the akhira.

Btw, there is a difference of opinion, Maliki scholars believe a father should be punished in the dunya by the state.
 

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The difference between your argument and @Abdalla's argument is the time of the action.
Is it permissible to kill someone without a major reason?!! Of course NOT... But that question gets asked before action had taken place.

What's the punishment of The custodian if he kills his sister/daughter?!! NONE.

THAT'S the difference between you two.
killing your own daughter is unlawful bro unless she is an apostate, adulterers or a spy seeking mishcief towards muslim than that is permissible. there are other ways in taming females without resulting in death..
 
for now....we all been there. But the change is gonna be subtle. You cant honor kill, but you can disown. Several posters here has already been disowned lol. But my advise to you would be careful of using sites for clarifications. On the internet you can find a site that will give you permission for anything if you seek long enough

The sites I use are reputable like Islamqa ect. Furthermore, if you are going to claim something is halal you cannot just throw a hadith without scholarly commentary.

We are not knowlegeable enough to interpret it ourselves. This man basically used a hadith and created a whole ruling that killing for honor is fine using that hadith without scholarly input.

That's dangerous behaviour. Think about the many people that go through this site that will be exposed to his crazy idea that killing your own flesh and blood is fine. What type of picture does this paint?
 

Jake from State Farm

We pro xalimo all 2019
Besides me getting cheated on.

I just see multiple debates going on.

Idk why.

How tf y’all go from burping to killing daughters.

But anyways this been a rough morning.
Might rope
 

Karim

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killing your own daughter is unlawful bro unless she is an apostate, adulterers or a spy seeking mishcief towards muslim than that is permissible. there are other ways in taming females without resulting in death..
We're specifically talking about the punishment/Hadood if the action had taken place already.
 

Abdalla

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Yes, you are correct. All of that means you will be cursed by Allah, but there is no state punishment which is what hadood is.

Hadood is punishement dished by the state.
I can't believe i am debating with someone that doesn't know what hadood punishment is.

I've just provided scholarly evidence along with the quran that killing your offspring will result in punishment in the Akiraa. You refuse to read.

The Qur’an states, “and whosoever kills a believer intentionally, his punishment is Hell; he shall abide in it, and God shall send His wrath upon him, curse him, and prepare for him a painful chastisement.”

Its just that their is no retaliatory punishment (qisas). There is a difference between worly punishment like hadood and the punishment in the akhira.

Btw, there is a difference of opinion, Maliki scholars believe a father should be punished in the dunya by the state.

If you lie about Allah and his prophet, hudud laws apply.

Not wearing hijab and intermixing can be classified as spreading corruption on earth and those that spread corruption on earth can have their hands and feet cut on opposite side.

If yoh really think that hudud laws only applg to adultry and stealing then that proves your lack of knowledge.
 
The sites I use are reputable like Islamqa ect. Furthermore, if you are going to claim something is halal you cannot just throw a hadith without scholarly commentary.

We are not knowlegeable enough to interpret it ourselves. This man basically used a hadith and created a whole ruling that killing for honor is fine using that hadith without scholarly input.

That's dangerous behaviour. Think about the many people that go through this site that will be exposed to his crazy idea that killing your own flesh and blood is fine. What type of picture does this paint?


I feel like you guys are not listening to each other. Killing someone is last resort and has to be real major. There are other type of punishments
 

Karim

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yes some form of punishment should take place if she misbehave very badly
What if he suddenly kills and she's no more?!! His punishment is non existent. He's the custodian the legal guardian and he will go free without answering a single question.
 
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