Origin of the Habesha

[Nin123]

But Yemenis themselves were Arabized. Yemenis spoke himyar language and saw themselves distinct from the Arabs of the peninsula. Yemenis like the Ethiopians hotep their history. How are you the origin of the Arabs when you didn't speak Arabic while other Arabs did?
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Apparently yemenis(himyarites) were Arabized by adnani tribes while the himyarites were constantly getting xooged by the axumites and Persians. A gradual process through trade and wars with the Axumites and Persians by the Adnanis. Islam helped tremendously. Here are the languages these south Arabian Yemenis spoke while the real Arabs were speaking Arabic. Once Arabized these south Arabians proceed to forge lineages claiming descent from qahtan. Tuugo

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But Yemenis themselves were Arabized. Yemenis spoke himyar language and saw themselves distinct from the Arabs of the peninsula. Yemenis like the Ethiopians hotep their history. How are you the origin of the Arabs when you didn't speak Arabic while other Arabs did?
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Apparently yemenis(himyarites) were Arabized by adnani tribes while the himyarites were constantly getting xooged by the axumites and Persians. A gradual process through trade and wars with the Axumites and Persians by the Adnanis. Islam helped tremendously. Here are the languages these south Arabian Yemenis spoke while the real Arabs were speaking Arabic. Once Arabized these south Arabians proceed to forge lineages claiming descent from qahtan. Tuugo

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It still sound Arabic to me

 

[DivineMartial]

It still sound Arabic to me

They're all semitic languages ofcourse they'll have similarities. Tigrinya and all these south Arabian languages really sound Like Arabic but are gibberish to me. Afar and oromo languages are very similar and to a non Somali would sound the same but a Somali speaker wouldn't understand them

 

[Nin123]

They're all semitic languages ofcourse they'll have similarities. Tigrinya and all these south Arabian languages really sound Like Arabic but are gibberish to me. Afar and oromo languages are very similar and to a non Somali would sound the same but a Somali speaker wouldn't understand them

Oromo sound like xaar to me

 

[The Macrobian]

Agew are central cushites, how the hell do they have relation to Somalis who are east Cushitic

Migration into Somalia through awash Jubba and shabelle rivers

 

[The Macrobian]

Geʿez is the ancestor of the Tigrinya and Tigré languages of Eritrea, Amharic as a language is quite young compared to them, Axum spanned parts of present day Ethiopia, Djibouti, Sudan and Eriteria, with it's expansion to South Arabia gained a lot of Paternal J1 haplogroups that went to Ethiopia highlands, both the Tigrinya and Tigre are 60%+ paternally E-M215, while Habesha are 40% J1 and the rest being mix between E, A, T and J2.

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That’s factually incorrect Ge’ez is a sister language to Tigrinya and Tigre as they are very similar because they are both north Ethiopic languages

 

[NidarNidar]

They're all semitic languages ofcourse they'll have similarities. Tigrinya and all these south Arabian languages really sound Like Arabic but are gibberish to me. Afar and oromo languages are very similar and to a non Somali would sound the same but a Somali speaker wouldn't understand them

I got told by an Indian af Somali sounded Arabic to him.

 

[NidarNidar]

That’s factually incorrect Ge’ez is a sister language to Tigrinya and Tigre as they are very similar because they are both north Ethiopic languages

It evolved from Ge'ez over many centuries and shares significant vocabulary and grammatical structures with it. Tigrinya is considered the closest living language to Ge'ez.

 

[The Macrobian]

But Yemenis themselves were Arabized. Yemenis spoke himyar language and saw themselves distinct from the Arabs of the peninsula. Yemenis like the Ethiopians hotep their history. How are you the origin of the Arabs when you didn't speak Arabic while other Arabs did?
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Apparently yemenis(himyarites) were Arabized by adnani tribes while the himyarites were constantly getting xooged by the axumites and Persians. A gradual process through trade and wars with the Axumites and Persians by the Adnanis. Islam helped tremendously. Here are the languages these south Arabian Yemenis spoke while the real Arabs were speaking Arabic. Once Arabized these south Arabians proceed to forge lineages claiming descent from qahtan. Tuugo

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Arabised is a stretch because they were south Arabian. The southern Arabians were the laandheres who spread the lineage to Syria etc after the Marib dam collapse yet during the Islamic conquests the Adnanis were on top and migrated EVERYWHERE

 

[The Macrobian]

It evolved from Ge'ez over many centuries and shares significant vocabulary and grammatical structures with it. Tigrinya is considered the closest living language to Ge'ez.

The Muslim Eritreans who are usually Tigre and speak Tigre are the MOST similar to ge’ez

 

[NidarNidar]

The Muslim Eritreans who are usually Tigre and speak Tigre are the MOST similar to ge’ez

Both originate from Ge'ez but Tigrinya is generally closer in terms of grammar, vocabulary and sound, due to Tigre being influenced by Cushitic languages like Beja resulting in divergence from the Ge'ez lexicon, as well as Tigrinya speakers having strong links to the Ethiopian orthodox church where Ge'ez has been used as a liturgical language.

 

[TheLand]

I will give sources
According to Dr. Eduard Glaser, a renowned Austrian epigraphist and historian, Habeshas were originally from Southeastern Yemen who lived east of the Hadhramaut kingdom in the modern district of Mahra.[2] He believed the etymology of Habesha must have derived from the Mahri language which means "gatherers" [2] (as in gatherers of incense). He asserted that the Mahrites and their language should be regarded as the descendants of the people and speech of ancient Habeshas.[2]
[2] The Academy, Volume 48, p. 415

This sounds more like a theory than anything concrete. Also, you have to remember that the habesh call themselves ‘abesha’ and ‘Amara’ while in Arabic it sounds like the Somali ‘xabash’. That’s obv where Somalis get it. There is no ‘xa’ sound in their version so how do you reconcile that?

 

[The Macrobian]

Both originate from Ge'ez but Tigrinya is generally closer in terms of grammar, vocabulary and sound, due to Tigre being influenced by Cushitic languages like Beja resulting in divergence from the Ge'ez lexicon, as well as Tigrinya speakers having strong links to the Ethiopian orthodox church where Ge'ez has been used as a liturgical language.

Sxb according to Bender, M.L. (May 1971). "The Languages of Ethiopia: A New Lexicostatistic Classification and Some Problems of Diffusion" Tigre has a 71% lexical similarity to ge’ez whereas tigranya is 68%

 

[EritreanPost_]

Both originate from Ge'ez but Tigrinya is generally closer in terms of grammar, vocabulary and sound, due to Tigre being influenced by Cushitic languages like Beja resulting in divergence from the Ge'ez lexicon, as well as Tigrinya speakers having strong links to the Ethiopian orthodox church where Ge'ez has been used as a liturgical language.

No Walal. The original Tigre language
was closer to Geez than Tigrinya

 

[The Macrobian]

This sounds more like a theory than anything concrete. Also, you have to remember that the habesh call themselves ‘abesha’ and ‘Amara’ while in Arabic it sounds like the Somali ‘xabash’. That’s obv where Somalis get it. There is no ‘xa’ sound in their version so how do you reconcile that?

That’s just an ethiopianisation of the southern Arabian term

 

[The Macrobian]

No Walal. The original Tigre language
was closer to Geez than Tigrinya

Walaal can you make a thread on the Ethiopian civil war since haile selassie until now

 

[EritreanPost_]

Walaal can you make a thread on the Ethiopian civil war since haile selassie until now

Why not. I already done few but I will make a big thread

 

[NidarNidar]

No Walal. The original Tigre language
was closer to Geez than Tigrinya

I'll take your expertise in the subject, I'm just going off what I read and learnt from books.

 

[NidarNidar]

Sxb according to Bender, M.L. (May 1971). "The Languages of Ethiopia: A New Lexicostatistic Classification and Some Problems of Diffusion" Tigre has a 71% lexical similarity to ge’ez whereas tigranya is 68%

I'll need to look at my source if I can find, I might of read some Ethiopian revisionist garbage.

 

[The Macrobian]

All these habesha have nothing to do with Axum it was southern Arabian kingdom and they migrated through the awash and Jubba shebelle rivers

 

[Khaem]

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Arab FKD is too funny walahi
In reality unless you're tribe is from deep in the arabian desert. You've been arabized in recent history. Peak for MENA.

Meanwhile Somali Clans fight over whether or not their patriarch is foreign. Since dna says we're all the same