Habesha means gatherer in Mehri and was used for those that gathered incense in Mahra and Dhofar. Habesha was a Qahtani tribe according Al hamdani and the habesha were described as living in Arabia in Greek works. We can conclude that the axumite leaders were not “habesha” as we know today who are “agazian” but rather HBST tribe of qahtan southern Arabia.
Origin of the Habesha
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According to Dr. Eduard Glaser, a renowned Austrian epigraphist and historian, Habeshas were originally from Southeastern Yemen who lived east of the Hadhramaut kingdom in the modern district of Mahra.[2] He believed the etymology of Habesha must have derived from the Mahri language which means "gatherers" [2] (as in gatherers of incense). He asserted that the Mahrites and their language should be regarded as the descendants of the people and speech of ancient Habeshas.[2]
[2] The Academy, Volume 48, p. 415
Habesha are like 33% J1 so not surprised, Historical and genetic evidence points to Yemeni origin.
“The Designation of Habesh in Arab Genealogy”
There is an authenticity in Arab genealogy for the name Al Hebsh, regardless of however varied it is to pinpoint. We find it, for example, in the genealogical chain of the leader of the khuza’a tribe. As mentioned by the historian Ibn Katheer, he is Hulai bin Hubshia bin Salu bin Kaab bin Umaru bin Rabee Al Khuza’ee. (6)
Ibn Khaldoon, says, “To khuza’a belonged the custodianship of the house (ka’bah) before Quraish of beni Kaab bin Umaru bin Lahy, and it ended up to Halil bin Hibshea bin SaluL. (7)
Al Hamadany, an ancient Yemeni Historian of Hummeirorgin says, in his discussion of the tribal subdivisions of children of Rabeea bin Abd bin Alyan bin Arhab, who begets Al Hassan bin Tarig Aba Hebsh. (8)
From among the Hadramout tribes mentioned by the scholar Salim AL Kendy in his book. ‘History of Hadramout, the tribe of Al Ahmed bin Zain AL Habsh.’ (9) He also cites many names that belong to the tribe which I mentioned; Ahmed bin Jaafer Al Habashi, Abdullah bin Salim Al Habashi, Issa bin Muhammad Al Habashi. (10)
There is an authenticity in Arab genealogy for the name Al Hebsh, regardless of however varied it is to pinpoint. We find it, for example, in the genealogical chain of the leader of the khuza’a tribe. As mentioned by the historian Ibn Katheer, he is Hulai bin Hubshia bin Salu bin Kaab bin Umaru bin Rabee Al Khuza’ee. (6)
Ibn Khaldoon, says, “To khuza’a belonged the custodianship of the house (ka’bah) before Quraish of beni Kaab bin Umaru bin Lahy, and it ended up to Halil bin Hibshea bin SaluL. (7)
Al Hamadany, an ancient Yemeni Historian of Hummeirorgin says, in his discussion of the tribal subdivisions of children of Rabeea bin Abd bin Alyan bin Arhab, who begets Al Hassan bin Tarig Aba Hebsh. (8)
From among the Hadramout tribes mentioned by the scholar Salim AL Kendy in his book. ‘History of Hadramout, the tribe of Al Ahmed bin Zain AL Habsh.’ (9) He also cites many names that belong to the tribe which I mentioned; Ahmed bin Jaafer Al Habashi, Abdullah bin Salim Al Habashi, Issa bin Muhammad Al Habashi. (10)
Linguistic evidence too it’s like ethio-semitic languages originated from southern Arabia
The axumites were like southern Arabians who had become agewised and their descendants are the dir sab and gabooye
Yes but they resided in Mahra aswell
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I am not Habesha I am Eritrean 
Agew are central cushites, how the hell do they have relation to Somalis who are east Cushitic
are u TigrinyaI am not Habesha I am Eritrean
Have you done 23andme yet?I am not Habesha I am Eritrean
But Yemenis themselves were Arabized. Yemenis spoke himyar language and saw themselves distinct from the Arabs of the peninsula. Yemenis like the Ethiopians hotep their history. How are you the origin of the Arabs when you didn't speak Arabic while other Arabs did?
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Apparently yemenis(himyarites) were Arabized by adnani tribes while the himyarites were constantly getting xooged by the axumites and Persians. A gradual process through trade and wars with the Axumites and Persians by the Adnanis. Islam helped tremendously. Here are the languages these south Arabian Yemenis spoke while the real Arabs were speaking Arabic. Once Arabized these south Arabians proceed to forge lineages claiming descent from qahtan. Tuugo
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Apparently yemenis(himyarites) were Arabized by adnani tribes while the himyarites were constantly getting xooged by the axumites and Persians. A gradual process through trade and wars with the Axumites and Persians by the Adnanis. Islam helped tremendously. Here are the languages these south Arabian Yemenis spoke while the real Arabs were speaking Arabic. Once Arabized these south Arabians proceed to forge lineages claiming descent from qahtan. Tuugo
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The prophet was from a tribe in Yemen that was recently arabized in his Great grandfather's generation no?But Yemenis themselves were Arabized. Yemenis spoke himyar language and saw themselves distinct from the Arabs of the peninsula. Yemenis like the Ethiopians hotep their history. How are you the origin of the Arabs when you didn't speak Arabic while other Arabs did?
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Apparently yemenis(himyarites) were Arabized by adnani tribes while the himyarites were constantly getting xooged by the axumites and Persians. A gradual process through trade and wars with the Axumites and Persians by the Adnanis. Islam helped tremendously. Here are the languages these south Arabian Yemenis spoke while the real Arabs were speaking Arabic. Once Arabized these south Arabians proceed to forge lineages claiming descent from qahtan. Tuugo
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Geʿez is the ancestor of the Tigrinya and Tigré languages of Eritrea, Amharic as a language is quite young compared to them, Axum spanned parts of present day Ethiopia, Djibouti, Sudan and Eriteria, with it's expansion to South Arabia gained a lot of Paternal J1 haplogroups that went to Ethiopia highlands, both the Tigrinya and Tigre are 60%+ paternally E-M215, while Habesha are 40% J1 and the rest being mix between E, A, T and J2.
Where did you read that? Honestly I've no idea
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I've heard of a similar culture within Habeshas...... someone had source here on the forums a while back.
They came from Yemen so I believe they are 100% Arab who mixed with the hamatic people.
Warya explained then why they speak semetic languages
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