"Otherwise we'll have to go to war" - Somaliland FM

[Gambar]

Why are you offended with the derogatory word idoor to describe Isaac yet when @crudetruth said a derogatory word faqash to describe darood it didn't bother you

Naga hor daqaaq

 

[Gambar]

How is iidoor derogatory kani taarikh iyo luuqadaba garanmaayo

I just said I'm as idoor as Prince of Lascaanood is Dhulbahante. The funny thing is Cog is defending him so hard but PL doesn't even give a shit.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Naga hor daqaaq

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I just said I'm as idoor as Prince of Lascaanood is Dhulbahante. The funny thing is Cog is defending him so hard but PL doesn't even give a shit.

I'm from khaatumo

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Adigo nabad u balawaara belo kaaley lama yirahdo hadey kugu timaadona lama booyo boowow

That's Reer bari dialect

I speak xamar/Kismayo dialect

 

[TheWeekday]

Somaliland will definently lose because of the naago traits of the Gabiley. If they sat out of the war and let the men fight, it will be a fair and competitive fight.

Did a JB nigga break your qaanis heart

 

[Shamis]

If they free Khatumo and Maakhir they can go their merry way.

 

[TheWeekday]

If they free Khatumo and Maakhir they can go their merry way.

After independence we will hand over eastern Sool and the couple Warsengali villages that still exist in Eastern Sanaag but untill ictiraaf they are stuck with us

 

[Shamis]

After independence we will hand over eastern Sool and the couple Warsengali villages that still exist in Eastern Sanaag but untill ictiraaf they are stuck with us

You don't understand how it works. It has to happen prior to independence.

 

[TheWeekday]

You don't understand how it works. It has to happen prior to independence.

And like I said these Daroods will be under our rule untill it happens.If you want your cousins free then you gotta pay up nigga

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

You fool, faqash is not for darood only, faqash ranges from hawiye, darood and even isaaq. It's a mentality that transcends qabiil. Similar to somalinimo...

Faqash is a derogatory term used by Isaac to describe darood there's nothing you could say that will make me believe otherwise

 

[The Cushitic One]

2/3rds of the SNA army including their poor airforce was dispatched to deal with what they called 'Qudhmis', they used up all their army on us to the point when they went back south their capital was unprotected and the Hawiye chased them out


Now they are a semi colonised nation and they still flexing with their non existent army that's busy killing ministers.

Their not even independent, the south owns their asses....no army yet the sspot keyboard darood warriors keep talking about going to war with somaliland....

What army do they have? Their masters in the south don't even have an army, they have African and Ethiopian troops..,

It's not even worth discussing.

I'm sick and fucking tired of this gablist bullshit on here...only time we all get along is when we all attacking a non Somali on sspot..,

I don't know why, I find myself in the politics section... I avoid it like the plague

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Their not even independent, the south owns their asses....no army yet the sspot keyboard darood warriors keep talking about going to war with somaliland....

What army do they have? Their masters in the south don't even have an army, they have African and Ethiopian troops..,

It's not even worth discussing.

I'm sick and fucking tired of this gablist bullshit on here...only time we all get along is when we all attacking a non Somali on sspot..,

I don't know why, I find myself in the politics section... I avoid it like the plague

Welcome




Idoor

 

[John Michael]

It'll most likely be a proxy war with Somalia supporting Anti-SL groups and Somaliland supporting clan militias in Somalia.

It's a lose-lose situation either way. All it would do is sabotage development on both sides.

The paranoia is strong with landers. I'm not sure about farmaajo but none of the previous admin could give a rats ass about somaliland. They're only in it for their corruption money and they're certainly not going to dip in it to pay militias. Loooooool


Said barre is dead.

 

[Lordilord]

Is this thread still going on? Come on guys we all know who will be on the loosing side if a war broke out.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I'm going to do my best to not take some of these posters bait and stay out of the discussion currently in the gutter in the peripherals of this thread.

To address @merka's post:

No one's going to war. Farmajo doesn't even control Suuqa Bakaaraha let alone koonfurta so his main priority will be to secure the south over the next few years.

If the south isn't secured during his term, then the status quo will continue. It's really that simple. You will see more macro regions and clan states pop up and the further weakening of the central government. This is obviously the situation that Siilyano et. Al would prefer. It requires no action on their part, they just sit back, collect their aid cheques and continue to steal the people of Somaliland's money while watching Farmajo struggle and fail. This is the only scenario where Somaliland has a chance at recognition as well.


If the south is reasonably secured during his term then 1 of 3 things will happen:

1. Renegotiations for reunification will start, due to pressure from international community. 4.5 will be abolished, or at the very least Isaaq joins 4.5 to make it a 5.5 system. There is no way Somaliland comes back without one of the 2 as a prerequisite. I obviously prefer that 4.5 be abolished all-together but knowing Somalis it probably won't be. There will be a new constitution, truth and reconciliation committee, and everything will have to be negotiated to appease Somaliland to come back. It will probably restructure Somalia into a new Somali republic with 2 formal political entities (Somalia and Somaliland), with 50/50 power sharing, revenue sharing and the equal splitting of the international aid budget, new elections, and full autonomy for Somaliland (think of Scotland or Quebec). There will be referendums in any disputed regions, and they will be able to choose which entity they'd like to join.

2. China - Taiwan type political situation, Somalia will still be too weak federally to actually do anything about Somaliland, since it will be in the process of rebuilding after 26 years at war. Somalia will still claim Somaliland as a part of its territory in the international community, and Somaliland won't receive any recognition from the IC. When Somalia rebuilds, it will just isolate Somaliland from the IC and Somalia will cut ties with any country that recognizes SL.

3. A North and South Korea type situation. Easily the worst outcome, both sides will build up military, and the eastern border with Somalia will be heavily fortified, with sporadic conflicts. Somaliland most likely becomes a pariah in the IC under this scenario, which is probably what Farmajo would like. Even then it would just mostly be hanjabad back and forth with occasional clashes, not full out war.

I've wanted to speak on this issue for quite sometime. I think it deserves its own post discussing the potential political dynamics, and I'll make one soon.

Or Somaliland is allowed to secede on the precondition that any referendum held must be held at the district level. I fully support a secession referendum that uses the district formula like in South Sudan. The problem is that a lot of people in Somaliland want the old British borders, but Somalia will not ever allow a secession of that size, a secession of everything west of Buhoodle though maybe doable. I would support it and so would most people in Puntland as it would increase our political power in Mogadishu relative to the southern clans.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Why are you offended with the derogatory word idoor to describe Isaac yet when @crudetruth said a derogatory word faqash to describe darood it didn't bother you

Reer Puntland.


I've warned you about this unloyal sambac.


Look at him attacking @Gambar while niggas are taking shots at him.

Smh.


@Zayd which Hawiye chased us out? Can we talk about General Morgan since we are bringing up petty ass shit.
And why the f*ck did you bring Puntland up in this topic? Somaliland vs Somalia. Puntland doesn't want anything to do with both of y'all monkeys. One crying about recognition while the other crying about suicide bombers.


And what the f*ck is your problem with MJ. I've noticed you liking irrelevant es dissing MJs.

 

[Lordilord]

Or Somaliland is allowed to secede on the precondition that any referendum held must be held at the district level. I fully support a secession referendum that uses the district formula like in South Sudan. The problem is that a lot of people in Somaliland want the old British borders, but Somalia will not ever allow a secession of that size, a secession of everything west of Buhoodle though maybe doable. I would support it and so would most people in Puntland as it would increase our political power in Mogadishu relative to the southern clans.

It's not really the people it's the government that wants the borders of the previous British Somaliland Protectorate. Sadly I highly doubt they will leave those areas since the vast resources in those regions alone is enough and also add to that the legal claim they got in 1960. If they declared war and fully occupied those areas the international community can't bat an eye because Somaliland government will win any legal case against them.

I personally hope they do go forward with referendums in those disputed areas.

 

[Safiya]

LOOL they have taken this too far how can you be so delusional to think u can start a war with the rest of the somali clans all toghether basicly because no one really gives a f*ck about this whole somaliland thing except isaqs??

yall are a mess

 

[Knowthyself]

showing up at the puntland somaliland border like