Pan africanist hatered

[reer]

@World this a probably the reason why the sheikh xasaan takfirs imam nawawi. mass takfir on asharis.



فهذه الطائفة المنحرفة عن الحق قد تجردت شياطينهم لصد الناس عن سبيل الله، فجحدوا توحيد الله في الإلهية، وأجازوا الشرك الذي لا يغفره الله، فجوزوا أن يعبد غيره من دونه، وجحدوا توحيد صفاته بالتعطيل. فالأئمة من أهل السنة وأتباعهم لهم المصنفات المعروفة في الرد على هذه الطائفة الكافرة المعاندة، كشفوا فيها كل شبهة لهم، وبينوا فيها الحق الذي دل عليه كتاب الله وسنة رسوله، وما عليه سلف الأمة وأئمتها من كل إمام رواية ودراية.

"This deviant group, which has strayed from the truth, has been fully unleashed by their devils to turn people away from the path of Allah. They denied the oneness of Allah in His divinity and permitted the polytheism that Allah does not forgive. They allowed the worship of others besides Him and denied His oneness in His attributes by negation.

The scholars of Ahl al-Sunnah and their followers have written well-known works in response to this obstinate and disbelieving group, exposing all their doubts and clarifying the truth that is supported by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger. They also demonstrated the stance of the Salaf of the Ummah and its imams, supported by both narration and understanding."

https://shamela.ws/book/3055/1155

 

[Jambo]

@reer

But: he came from the Levant, and they worship Ibn Arabi; they made an idol on his grave that they worship, and I do not mean all the people of the Levant, God forbid; rather, there is still a group on the truth, even if it is small and has become alienated.

You don't even read what you send you joker.

 

[reer]

@reer

But: he came from the Levant, and they worship Ibn Arabi; they made an idol on his grave that they worship, and I do not mean all the people of the Levant, God forbid; rather, there is still a group on the truth, even if it is small and has become alienated.

You don't even read what you send you joker.

so you agree majority of al sham were kuffar mushriks except a minority. takfiri.

 

[Abu Hesi]

@World this a probably the reason why the sheikh xasaan takfirs imam nawawi. mass takfir on asharis.



فهذه الطائفة المنحرفة عن الحق قد تجردت شياطينهم لصد الناس عن سبيل الله، فجحدوا توحيد الله في الإلهية، وأجازوا الشرك الذي لا يغفره الله، فجوزوا أن يعبد غيره من دونه، وجحدوا توحيد صفاته بالتعطيل. فالأئمة من أهل السنة وأتباعهم لهم المصنفات المعروفة في الرد على هذه الطائفة الكافرة المعاندة، كشفوا فيها كل شبهة لهم، وبينوا فيها الحق الذي دل عليه كتاب الله وسنة رسوله، وما عليه سلف الأمة وأئمتها من كل إمام رواية ودراية.

"This deviant group, which has strayed from the truth, has been fully unleashed by their devils to turn people away from the path of Allah. They denied the oneness of Allah in His divinity and permitted the polytheism that Allah does not forgive. They allowed the worship of others besides Him and denied His oneness in His attributes by negation.

The scholars of Ahl al-Sunnah and their followers have written well-known works in response to this obstinate and disbelieving group, exposing all their doubts and clarifying the truth that is supported by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger. They also demonstrated the stance of the Salaf of the Ummah and its imams, supported by both narration and understanding."

https://shamela.ws/book/3055/1155

The Somali Sheikh? can you post the video please.

 

[reer]

The Somali Sheikh? can you post the video please.

calls him a hardcore jahmi. the jahmites are a kafir sect.

 

[Daisybilaawe]

These guys derailed this entire thread to religion now @bobby_hill-Punt sorry bro

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

These guys derailed this entire thread to religion now @bobby_hill-Punt sorry bro

These musty africa are knew for that sxb its not your fault

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[Daisybilaawe]

These musty africa are now for that sxb its not your fault

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yh I know it's like once you try to unpack their twisted and replusive belief they feel threatened enough to call you a kaffir.

"Al Shabaab is bad" "you kafiir" ??

 

[bobby_hill-Punt]

yh I know it's like once you try to unpack their twisted and replusive belief they feel threatened enough to call you a kaffir.

"Al Shabaab is bad" "you kafiir" ??

This is how they distroy a society by making it super faleous religious based for instance these people don't even have the full understand of the Quran they need an Arab to translate for them. Now if you want your country to progress from where it at with technology and math and science they will tell you " your studying the wrong thing why don't you study the Quran the same way?". They want no pregressiom for Somali but want to be stuck in the 1700's period. These false religious leader or speaker are the problem with us, but once you start digging into who pays them you'll be surprised.

Every person needs to purchase an English translation of Quran or learn Af Arab like a native. Stop allowing others to dictate how your society should be ran with Quran while the population cant even translate a paragraph in Af araby

 

[Daisybilaawe]

This is how they distroy a society by making it super faleous religious based for instance these people don't even have the full understand of the Quran they need an Arab to translate for them. Now if you want your country to progress from where it at with technology and math and science they will tell you " your studying the wrong thing why don't you study the Quran the same way?". They want no pregressiom for Somali but want to be stuck in the 1700's period. These false religious leader or speaker are the problem with us, but once you start digging into who pays them you'll be surprised.

Every person needs to purchase an English translation of Quran or learn Af Arab like a native. Stop allowing others to dictate how your society should be ran with Quran while the population cant even translate a paragraph in Af araby

Islam to them is just Arabism.

Arabism and Islam is the same thing in their minds and as a result they'll try so hard to attach themselves to the cloth of the lowest arab.

Can you believe it the other day I was arguing with a person on R/Somalia that claimed that we will speak Arabic in Jannah

 

[zeilaprime]

Europeans: let's work together and dominate the world.
Africans: f*ck you, I'd rather live in shit than work with that slightly different looking negro!

Hmm. I'm noticing why one continent is a shithole and the other the envy of the world.

 

[The truth seeker]

Europeans: let's work together and dominate the world.
Africans: f*ck you, I'd rather live in shit than work with that slightly different looking negro!

Hmm. I'm noticing why one continent is a shithole and the other the envy of the world.

The current mindset

Asia :Let’s build our countries up and dominate the tech and car industry

Africa: Let’s borrow money from china so I can spend it on a useless project when we can’t pay it back we will cry ”debt trap ” and run To Uncle Sam for another IMF bailout


Why am I seeing one continent becoming the center of the world economy (Japan ,China right behind US) while the other is stuck in poverty after 60 years of independence all while there people glamorize life in the US and Europe cause they live in a slum

 

[Xabeshi]

Europeans: let's work together and dominate the world.
Africans: f*ck you, I'd rather live in shit than work with that slightly different looking negro!

Hmm. I'm noticing why one continent is a shithole and the other the envy of the world.

I get your point but any 2 Europeans are more similar to each other than a Somali is to a Cameroonian

 

[balanbalis]

I get your point but any 2 Europeans are more similar to each other than a Somali is to a Cameroonian

I agree, Europe was always far more interconnected.

Royal houses from all parts of Europe used to intermarry, hell even Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany, Tsar Nicholas of Russia, and King George of England were cousins during WW2.

You haven't heard of an (for example) Abyssinian emperor taking a Soninke wife. But Catherine of Germany married and became the Empress of Russia.

 

[zeilaprime]

I get your point but any 2 Europeans are more similar to each other than a Somali is to a Cameroonian

Does that justify all the ways african countries f*ck each other over for no reason. The fact that Africa has the lowest internal trade of any region of the world should tell you that pan-africanism isn't the problem, but crab in a bucket mindset is the problem.

 

[The truth seeker]

Does that justify all the ways african countries f*ck each other over for no reason. The fact that Africa has the lowest internal trade of any region of the world should tell you that pan-africanism isn't the problem, but crab in a bucket mindset is the problem.

Pan Africanisam was originally created by African Americans in Chicago

Vietnam went form most bombed country to a manufacturing powerhouse in simply 30 years Africans have all these resources under there feet and where are they today ?

 

[zeilaprime]

Pan Africanisam was originally created by African Americans in Chicago

Vietnam went form most bombed country to a manufacturing powerhouse in simply 30 years Africans have all these resources under there feet and where are they today ?

Vietnam did many smart things:
1. Educated the youth (everyone can read and write)
2. Repaired relations with the West but also didn't make itself a vassal
3. invested in infrastructure.
4. managed corruption (no African-style mass looting).

All of that happened before their economic takeoff in the early 2000s. Africa needs to take the first small steps before talking about manufacturing.

 

[The truth seeker]

Vietnam did many smart things:
1. Educated the youth (everyone can read and write)
2. Repaired relations with the West but also didn't make itself a vassal
3. invested in infrastructure.
4. managed corruption (no African-style mass looting).

All of that happened before their economic takeoff in the early 2000s. Africa needs to take the first small steps before talking about manufacturing.

Diaspora is coming back all my Vietnamese buddies from high school have left California and gone back home


I have been to Kenya many times they wasted there China loans on useless projects except for the rich neighborhoods next to the embassy’s there are literally no roads the area in between Nairobi and Mombasa practically looks like something out of the Stone Age and the airport looks like a dusty warehouse

Take a look at these clowns

 

[Midas]

Does that justify all the ways african countries f*ck each other over for no reason. The fact that Africa has the lowest internal trade of any region of the world should tell you that pan-africanism isn't the problem, but crab in a bucket mindset is the problem.

This comparison doesn't really work because europe if you take out eastern europe and the balkans( so basically from Portugal to poland)
Is 2.7 million km and has a population of 470 million people. The horn of africa if you add sudan is 3.6 million km. This is on top of Europe sharing latin and the catholic church and marriage alliances between nobility and medieval universities in Italy and paris that everybody studied at .

When your aware of this context it makes sense why a pan European identity exists. The pan african identity is more like a pan-asian identity than it is a pan-European identity.