PM Hamza has one key job

[SPMLegend]

Nobody believes what u saying warya, if u aren’t a clannist you would have supported farmaajo. Any talk of being a wadani is out of the window until you show proof. Don’t preach that to other federal states only when a Hawiye has power.

When Farmaajo was obsessed with taking over states and appointing Gareens he was completely opposed to this because Farmaajo was Darood. Now he wants his HAG uncle to implement the same policies he refused Farmaajo of doing. We see his naked tribalism.

 

[abz1991]

I don’t think that will beNobody all of Somalia to fall under the central government’s full Authority. Somalis still follow the 4.5 system and the current administration is viewed as a Hawiye government and the previous was a Marehan regime. HAG have more chances in subduing Tuugsi Eelaays in Baydhabo than Kabalaxs in Jubaland & Puntland.

Nobody will be subduing Eelaays in baydhabo. Laftagareen is not going anywhere he will be staying for the next year at least if not for the next four years. He will be untouchable due to being backed and protected by ethiopia, qatar and turkey like axmed madoobe is protected by kenya.

It is much more likely that axmed madoobe will be leaving as he has stayed for too long. I have heard from some sources he will be replaced by another kenyan installed puppet. Hes also hated by many people due a 1/3 of jubbaland being an al shabab training ground.

 

[World]

When Farmaajo was obsessed with taking over states and appointing Gareens he was completely opposed to this because Farmaajo was Darood. Now he wants his HAG uncle to implement the same policies he refused Farmaajo of doing. We see his naked tribalism.

Federalist/confederalism when a non-HAG has power, centralist when a HAG has power. And then has the audacity to lecture others about tribalism.

Centralism is a tool for him to impose HAG dominance on other regions.

 

[Galmudug-State]

To make Jubaland a Gareen state for HSM in order to get Somalia one step closer to become a truly united country again at long last.

If he fails HAB will be replaced with a Marehan, this is my prediction

Never again a West Gedo.

 

[SPMLegend]

Nobody will be subduing Eelaays in baydhabo. Laftagareen is not going anywhere he will be staying for the next year at least if not for the next four years. He will be untouchable due to being backed and protected by ethiopia, qatar and turkey like axmed madoobe is protected by kenya.

It is much more likely that axmed madoobe will be leaving as he has stayed for too long. I have heard from some sources he will be replaced by another kenyan installed puppet.

Its more likely axmed madoobe will

Marehan boy stop trying to compare 2 people who are not on the same level. Ahmed Madoobe has diplomats in Adis Ababa and a large political representation in Ethiopia meanwhile Laftagareen only has AMISOM to cater for him.
southwest state has 77 Mps in the parliament & senate and only 30% came out to support Laftagareen’s backed candidate Farmaajo. Laftagareen neither has the political nor Military muscle to survive. One call to General Gebrasion in Adama will have him chained up in 24 hours

 

[Gladiolus]

Who cares about clan when everyone in Somalia can only benefit and benefit if they have a peaceful, unified country under a strong FGS. You should understand this basic fact regardless of which tribe Somalia's president comes from

Somalia had peace and were united twice ( when the first President was selected in 1960 to the first ten years when barre took it through force) and it did not benefit all states since everything was concentrated in one city( Xamar) so hawiye cannot convince anyone, especially after your tribe terrorised almost every single Somali tribe for 30 years, that now, all of a sudden, you want unitey bc it will benefit us all. Hawiye has one goal and that is controlling Darood and subjugating us, thankfully you dont have the intelligence nor the military power to do so. PM Barre isnt going to do your dirty work and IF he tries he will fail, In Sha Allah.

 

[Gladiolus]

Somalia cannot afford Hawiye holding Xamar hostage

 

[abz1991]

Marehan boy stop trying to compare 2 people who are not on the same level. Ahmed Madoobe has diplomats in Adis Ababa and a large political representation in Ethiopia meanwhile Laftagareen only has AMISOM to cater for him.
southwest state has 77 Mps in the parliament & senate and only 30% came out to support Laftagareen’s backed candidate Farmaajo. Laftagareen neither has the political nor Military muscle to survive. One call to General Gebrasion in Adama will have him chained up in 24 hours

Your forgetting Nabad iyo nolol relationship and backing from ethiopia. Laftagareen is in Turkey as we speak talking about how they can close of the lower shabeele borders and how many soldiers they need. Dont underestimate Laftagareen and his political ability.

Turkey are also opening a military base in Baay region near Buurhakaba. The eritrean trained troops will also be entering koonfur galbeed. I think that more then enough military power.

 

[InaShaqalle]

OK then what if I say we should adopt the UAE model of collegial federalism to bring Somalia under a strong national government, would you Darods accept this?

@SPMLegend @Gladiolus

 

[InaShaqalle]

Nobody believes what u saying warya, if u aren’t a clannist you would have supported farmaajo. Any talk of being a wadani is out of the window until you show proof. Don’t preach that to other federal states only when a Hawiye has power.

Farmajo is a wannabe tyrant, at least Hawiye are not afraid of losing power

 

[Gladiolus]

Any model of governing that will weaken Hawiye and any other Xamar govt that will try to take Waamo from Ogaden I welcome it. The reason why we are on this cycle of never ending humiliation and exhaustion isnt due to Ogaden but the other Somalis and anything that will move us from you is a plus.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Your forgetting Nabad iyo nolol relationship and backing from ethiopia. Laftagareen is in Turkey as we speak talking about how they can close of the lower shabeele borders and how many soldiers they need. Dont underestimate Laftagareen and his political ability.

Turkey are also opening a military base in Baay region near Buurhakaba. The eritrean trained troops will also be entering koonfur galbeed. I think that more then enough military power.

I can’t believe you’re dreaming of Shabellaha Hoose. Laftagareen is in Turkey picking out his future house. Nothing else. His time is up in a few months so save yourself the embarrassment

 

[peacemaker]

Somalia cannot afford a second Puntland

you should focus on worrying about and building your tuulo sxb,

horta why are Somalis so desperate they want to spend their precious time and energy on another man's land?

 

[InaShaqalle]

you should focus on worrying about and building your tuulo sxb,

horta why are Somalis so desperate they want to spend their precious time and energy on another man's land?

Every part of Somalia belongs to all reer Somalia citizens regardless of tribe

 

[Gadhwayne]

To make Jubaland a Gareen state for HSM in order to get Somalia one step closer to become a truly united country again at long last.

If he fails HAB will be replaced with a Marehan, this is my prediction

I disagree. Zero sum approach will ensure there is no JL statee and no federal control in JL territories. Madoobe knows he cant have PLstyle de facto independence disguised as federalism but Qoslaste cant run JL government like the other 3 FMS. Compromise is the way forward

they cant get a budget without Xamar.

We will have our states then share Xamar with you and ofcourse we will choose your gareens while we are there.

Tribal fantasies. If Qoslaaye is even semicompetent, he appoints new FMS leaders in HS/GM/KG and the FMS appoint new MPs in 2026 2028. Qoslasye never has to worry about National Salvation Army like MrCheese. Xamse serves at Qoslasye'd pleasure and Madoobe is still worried with Gedo rivals who want Qoslaaye's blessing/recognition to move the interim capital to Garbahaarey for JL state elections selections i.e. the reverse of Garbahaarey federal election selections getting moved by Rooble

That is his only job tbf. What else is he going to do? HSM will handpick the ministers and the ministers will get the credit for their work not this guy. Sheikh kululu says his job is to flush AS out of Somalia. When in history has the PM been credited for doing anything against shabab?

Honestly, if my clan were to get pm or president for the first time ever id want a Kheyre type instead of this timid looking fella HSM brought along lol. I think PM Hamze will be staying for 2 years minimum.

I was suprised when I asked some odays for their opinion on him. I thought tolka had a bit more respect for og but they never come up in fkd for us so you know learn something new everyday

Well said. Im neutral here. But I need to add this. Qoslaaye is untouchable for as long as he has > 1/3 of Somalia Italiana parliament. It takes 2/3 of MPs to remove him. He gets 20% from beeshiisa. Fugitive MPs from JSL will vote for him since he has Muqdisho money and that gets him about 40% of MPs

Allow me to avoid this thread lol.

All I’ll say is I don’t think JL needs a Gareen but they should work with FGS post Madoobe. SNA should liberate Middle Jubba, replace Kenyan/Ethiopian troops in Gedo and Jubbada Hoose and then work on a unified FGS-JL/KG/HS/GM agenda on economy, education, health, port/resource deals etc. We can’t have a second stealth secessionist state like PL that opposes every President. We must be fully focused on Somalia’s development and sovereignty.

Too late for dodging this thread. I actually agree with you though

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Of the 5 FMS of Somalia Italiana might be end up being the only true federal state the rest are departments of the FGS and PL is de facto independent

 

[Abaq]

You're dreaming. HAG remnants will be cleared from Waamo including that fake suldaan AS gave you in Jilib. We will also deport your yaryars back to Hiiraan or wherever they came from. The Jubbaland parliament will also be restructured to reflect the realities on the ground. No more appeasing yaryars and nobodies.

 

[Gadhwayne]

You're dreaming. HAG remnants will be cleared from Waamo including that fake suldaan AS gave you in Jilib. We will also deport your yaryars back to Hiiraan or wherever they came from. The Jubbaland parliament will also be restructured to reflect the realities on the ground. No more appeasing yaryars and nobodies.

Im being realistic. JL cant have de facto independence like PL and Qoslaaye cant turn JL into federal departments like HS/KG/GM

JL and FGS reach a federalist compromise or there will neither be federal nor JL state authority that controls LJ/MJ/Gedo

 

[InaShaqalle]

Madobe only controls (parts of) Lower Juba. Hope the SNA takes control of Buale soon @Jungle

 

[abz1991]

I can’t believe you’re dreaming of Shabellaha Hoose. Laftagareen is in Turkey picking out his future house. Nothing else. His time is up in a few months so save yourself the embarrassment

Shabeelada hoose is not going anywhere trust me. If HSM tries anything its gonna cause a war.

Ill be honest you guys have more of a chance of getting madaxweyne ku xigeen of KG but banaadir + shabeelada hoose does HSM wanna get assassinated like japanese prime minister

 

[Abaq]

Im being realistic. JL cant have de facto independence like PL and Qoslaaye cant turn JL into federal departments like HS/KG/GM

JL and FGS reach a federalist compromise or there will neither be federal nor JL state authority that controls LJ/MJ/Gedo

Says who? Jubbaland was formed and maintained despite 3 consequent presidents doing everything they can to destroy. Jubbaland does not exist with Xamar's blessing, it exists despite Xamar doing everything it can to destroy it. That's why your comments make no sense. Are you forgetting that for the 5 yrs Farmajo was in power Jubbaland didn't receive a single dime from Xamar? We are not Galamudug or the other Gareen states that need Xamar to survive. If Xamar burns down today we don't care.