PM Kheyre en route to Garowe, Puntland for an official state visit

[Abdalla]

Overused insult. Try another one pal

Come back to me when you can give your own son a better welcome than this in Caabudwaaq.

This is what you get for throwing shades front the sidelines while I'm slapping some laangaab from Balcad dhiladi ku dhashay was

 

[nine]

Come back to me when you can give your own son a better welcome than this in Caabudwaaq.

This is what you get for throwing shades front the sidelines while I'm slapping some laangaab from Balcad dhiladi ku dhashay was

He deserves nothing more than that in Caabudwaaq.
You can't be serious in comparing Xamar security to other parts of the country

 

[Shaolin23]

Bro no one knows my interests better than me. No Irir will advance my interests better than my own leaders. SFG requested from Puntland to side with Qatar while we have zero stakes there. The same Qatar that gave asylum to Sheikh Atam, the one that started the Galgala terrorist cell. If you can't see why we should advance our own interests.

All I am saying is don't take the backseat in advancing your own interests. If you think the SFG has your interests at heart, then you need a cold shower.

Seems like were talking in two different languages all federal governments in the world operate on the same principle the states have their rights and the federal government their rights and each must also fulfill their duties to each other my point is handling of foreign policy is left to the federal government no where does it say in the constitution otherwise in fact it say the federal states and FGS constitution should be harmonized no federal states should interfere in national matters Puntland is the brainchild behind the constitution how about you follow it the FGS is not perfect we all know that but change must come from within the blueprint is there we must put it into action now

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Bro no one knows my interests better than me. No Irir will advance my interests better than my own leaders. SFG requested from Puntland to side with Qatar while we have zero stakes there. The same Qatar that gave asylum to Sheikh Atam, the one that started the Galgala terrorist cell. If you can't see why we should advance our own interests.

All I am saying is don't take the backseat in advancing your own interests. If you think the SFG has your interests at heart, then you need a cold shower.

Khayaali ayu ku nool yahay walahi. Waa wax lala yaabu, nin si dhab ah ku fakaraya in uu Hawiye wax la qabsado!



He is 100% serious! "awooda dowladu waa in meelkasta aye gaarta" "dastuurka waa in la ixtiraama" "maamul goboleed xiriir caalami ah ma yeelan karo" etc...
As if anyone in Mogadishu believes a word of any of this! He actually believes that an actual state called Somalia is what is being created in Xamar. He thinks that we will have an actual parliament that will pass binding laws. I actually feel sorry for him.

 

[nine]

@draco @embarassing Khayre is a real nigga

 

[Abdalla]

Khayaali ayu ku nool yahay walahi. Waa wax lala yaabu, nin si dhab ah ku fakaraya in uu Hawiye wax la qabsado!



He is 100% serious! "awooda dowladu waa in meelkasta aye gaarta" "dastuurka waa in la ixtiraama" "maamul goboleed xiriir caalami ah ma yeelan karo" etc...
As if anyone in Mogadishu believes a word of any of this! He actually believes that an actual state called Somalia is what is being created in Xamar. He thinks that we will have an actual parliament that will pass binding laws. I actually feel sorry for him.

That jujuwiye dude @london10 even criticised Belgium just to shit on federalism. The audacity of jujuwiyes. Anything to refuse feseralism

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

In a way I respect SL a lot more than PL even though SL is against my interest as a citizen of Somalia you guys are way more honest and transparent it’s easier to deal with SL because it’s war or peace not a grey area

The question is does puntland need your respect? I don't respect puntland kulaha kkk and? Boowe puntland qabil ma ahan waa qaran.

Centralism is over it died with afweyne i say good riddance to bad rubbish federalism waa muqadis federalism is the future waa billahi towfiq

 

[DRACO]

@draco @embarassing Khayre is a real nigga

What is worrying is he seems Military obsessed and wants to control the military nationwide. I think he will f*ck up in the end , only way he can survive is become UAE puppet before Farmajo fires him . Farmajo is Qatar puppet , kheyre can only survive with UAE support .

 

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[DR OSMAN]

 

[Lordilord]

We sent our soldiers south to bring peace and re-established the federal government for you animals

What soldiers did you send?! Amisom is doing a horrible job but together with Somali Army is trying their best to keep the peace in the capital and outside. Where is Puntland role in this??

I know you want us to yield to the FGS out of jealousy so they can drag us down to your level but we will never stop developing.

Why would they want you not to develop, this is where you take their words out of context. Most of these dude are saying act like a federal state not like a separate country..

 

[Rise]

Why would they want you not to develop, this is where you take their words out of context. Most of these dude are saying act like a federal state not like a separate country..

Puntland does behave like a Federal State, Federal State's have their own flags, they also share a national army with other Federal States and cooperate with the Federal Government on national security and development matters.

I don't see people complaining or caring when other Federal States dare tout their own flag(as is their right), is it because they are irrelevant or that they don't garner the envy of all Somalis?

 

[Lordilord]

That jujuwiye dude @london10 even criticised Belgium just to shit on federalism. The audacity of jujuwiyes. Anything to refuse feseralism

wallahi @london10 owned you in every way possible, you didn't even properly respond to him..

You cannot compare the situation in Belgium to the one in Somalia. The issues in Belgium has its roots all the way back to the Holy Roman Empire and the other neighboring french Empire.

Their issues are a lot more complicated and they even speak different languages. In Wallonia they speak French and in Flanders they speak Dutch. Both Wallonia and Flanders have their own political agenda and this is the reason why it looks like it does today where they are almost behaving like separate countries..

 

[Lordilord]

SFG requested from Puntland to side with Qatar while we have zero stakes there. The same Qatar that gave asylum to Sheikh Atam, the one that started the Galgala terrorist cell. If you can't see why we should advance our own interests.

Just so I understand one of the reasons Puntland decided to go against the government is because Qatar are doing sketchy things right and it would harm their undergoing interests?

But.. wait wasn't UAE caught red handed with bribery money and actively trying to destabilize Somalia?

The biggest disrespect of all is the actions UAE took with Somaliland and this is coming from me. So is Somalia really at wrong for asking one of their federal states to take sides with them? Come on man...

 

[Lordilord]

Also saying that Puntland would be in demise if they sided with Qatar is absolutely false.. Qatar and UAE have a ongoing feud everyone knows this...

Out of spite to UAE the Qatari government would have most likely funneled money through Puntland if they stood united. Did you guys forget the Sudan port concession to Qatar deal that is worth 4 billion compare that to UAE Berbera deal or Bosaso.

Shit makes no sense because Somaliland have no choice or options and takes whatever SL get but Puntland had a choice and other options.

 

[london10]

wallahi @london10 owned you in every way possible, you didn't even properly respond to him..

You cannot compare the situation in Belgium to the one in Somalia. The issues in Belgium has its roots all the way back to the Holy Roman Empire and the other neighboring french Empire.

Their issues are a lot more complicated and they even speak different languages. In Wallonia they speak French and in Flanders they speak Dutch. Both Wallonia and Flanders have their own political agenda and this is the reason why it looks like it does today where they are almost behaving like separate countries..

Theryre idiots who cant comprehend basic logic cause the have no critical thinking skills. I know plenty of puntlanders heck I could b one for all they know. And no one I know is this stupid. Imagine cheerleading for destabilisation of the country cause apparently theyre getting few loose change now. They don't know what theyre talking about 1 because as it it's right now they're struggling to hold onto regions they control so full proxy war on two fronts and they're toast. 2 because they're so stupid they keep talking about abdulahi Yusuf bringing government to the south when anybody that's not this stupid can see it's American actions. Yes Yusuf had some say just like all the other warlords had a say in forming the TFG but none of them could lift a finger without their employers. It's like me claiming I and only I is responsible for publishing this post when it's somalispot that's making it possible for me to do. You can't debate rationally with idiots who are also arrogant

 

[Abdalla]

wallahi @london10 owned you in every way possible, you didn't even properly respond to him..

You cannot compare the situation in Belgium to the one in Somalia. The issues in Belgium has its roots all the way back to the Holy Roman Empire and the other neighboring french Empire.

Their issues are a lot more complicated and they even speak different languages. In Wallonia they speak French and in Flanders they speak Dutch. Both Wallonia and Flanders have their own political agenda and this is the reason why it looks like it does today where they are almost behaving like separate countries..

Aside from your blatant shameless cheerleading, I cornered him to diss one of the ricest countries in the world, the seat of the EU. He said it is unheard that a region has its own foreign policy, I provided him an example and he started dissing Belguim from his alshabab infested, grandma burning southern region. He has no perspective whatsoever. Mind you that he dropped that argument, so who owned who ya cheerleader?

As for your second point, we pointed out several times the type of countries that opted for a federal system. If you put your cheerleading pompoms down, here's are the types of countries that opted for a federal system:

1-Countries that have a history of mistrusting government, like the US. The white migrants fled from government and religious prosecution from Europe. So they have a distaste for strong central government.

2-Multi ethnic countries and counttries that have several offcial languages. The examples are endless, Ethiopia, Belguim

3- Countries with immense landscape and natural resources such as Canada. It is inefficient for a centra government to handle these issues, a local federal government can handle it more efficiently.

4-Countries that come from a brutal civil war. Many ex Balkan countries have opted for a federal system, and some of them are now EU members.

Somalia ticks all the boxes except number 2.

The first discussion I had with @london10 was about substate foreign policy, he ridiculed that thought and asked for an example where it is implemented. I gave hima clear cut example plus a academic paper encouraging it but like a kid he dissed Belguim. He wasn't ope for discussion, he would dismiss my arguments no matter what. I didn't hear him since about regions in other countries having their own foreign policy

 

[Abdalla]

Also saying that Puntland would be in demise if they sided with Qatar is absolutely false.. Qatar and UAE have a ongoing feud everyone knows this...

Out of spite to UAE the Qatari government would have most likely funneled money through Puntland if they stood united. Did you guys forget the Sudan port concession to Qatar deal that is worth 4 billion compare that to UAE Berbera deal or Bosaso.

Shit makes no sense because Somaliland have no choice or options and takes whatever SL get but Puntland had a choice and other options.

Nobody understands this gibberish. You must be running out of air from all the cheerleading and jumping up and down. Go catch your breath, collect your thoughts and come back to me then.

 

[london10]

wallahi @london10 owned you in every way possible, you didn't even properly respond to him..

You cannot compare the situation in Belgium to the one in Somalia. The issues in Belgium has its roots all the way back to the Holy Roman Empire and the other neighboring french Empire.

Their issues are a lot more complicated and they even speak different languages. In Wallonia they speak French and in Flanders they speak Dutch. Both Wallonia and Flanders have their own political agenda and this is the reason why it looks like it does today where they are almost behaving like separate countries..

Sxb pay them no mind. These are basically intellectually challenged kids. Let me demonstrate

1- where did I criticise Belgium? U can go back to my post and see I just stated their current situation. That's different from criticism I stated no opinion on them.

2 they called me and all agreed I was qabiiliiste for saying Somaliland have been waging minor war against puntland and takes land from them at will how is that qabiiliiste? Isn't that the truth?

I also said kids from baraxley give them headache and thes kids are only sacad and 90% which is like 95% of sacad militias aren't in mudug let alone habargidir.

Cayr saleebaan and the rest of habargidir don't fight puntland and sacad have bigger fish to fry than galkacyo. They have districts that dwarf the whole galkacyo in hamar to worry about not to mention other places in the South .

also this mudug thing is like ancestral thing to them just like guriceel is to ceyr. It's not a place they take serious. So when I say now habargidir are united and have a state right next to them and if they sent their troops there they'd be in trouble cause they also will have to worry about Somaliland and in any case any of the two can over run them, how is that a qabiileeste? I'm not saying they can't fight habargidir if they mobilised their troops even though I honestly believe they can't but they have Somaliland that could literally take their whole region in a week if they wanted to also worry about. Also same shit can happen to galmudug if cards don't fall their way so it's best no one abets proxy wars between Arabs that could make up tomorrow and punish one side. It's not worth it. These are not America these are tiny children


PS. The peace thyre talking and development they're talking about is due to having no one fighting them. Anytime someone fought them, they gave up the territory. Case in point cayr and mareehaan taking kismayo from them and Somaliland taking laascaanood and other places from them. Puntland has proven time and again they can't hold their own against other Somali militias in any serious battle so it's best they stay away from plunging the country into civil war

 

[london10]

Aside from your blatant shameless cheerleading, I cornered him to diss one of the ricest countries in the world, the seat of the EU. He said it is unheard that a region has its own foreign policy, I provided him an example and he started dissing Belguim from his alshabab infested, grandma burning southern region. He has no perspective whatsoever. Mind you that he dropped that argument, so who owned who ya cheerleader?

As for your second point, we pointed out several times the type of countries that opted for a federal system. If you put your cheerleading pompoms down, here's are the types of countries that opted for a federal system:

1-Countries that have a history of mistrusting government, like the US. The white migrants fled from government and religious prosecution from Europe. So they have a distaste for strong central government.

2-Multi ethnic countries and counttries that have several offcial languages. The examples are endless, Ethiopia, Belguim

3- Countries with immense landscape and natural resources such as Canada. It is inefficient for a centra government to handle these issues, a local federal government can handle it more efficiently.

4-Countries that come from a brutal civil war. Many ex Balkan countries have opted for a federal system, and some of them are now EU members.

Somalia ticks all the boxes except number 2.

The first discussion I had with @london10 was about substate foreign policy, he ridiculed that thought and asked for an example where it is implemented. I gave hima clear cut example plus a academic paper encouraging it but like a kid he dissed Belguim. He wasn't ope for discussion, he would dismiss my arguments no matter what. I didn't hear him since about regions in other countries having their own foreign policy

Stop lying. Where did i diss Belgium and answer my question that was, show me Belgium States siding with foreigners that are undermining their national sovereignty or even that of the EU? U cant so u have to lie and make it seem like i have a problem with federalism or States signing agreements. It's simple you can not side with countries that openly state they don't respect the national sovereignty of the country and they will do as thy wish. You lying scumbag