Puntland angered by the killings in SSC on May 18th

[Freebandz]

10.000 or not, the entire Dhulos evacuated Sanaag, that is a fact. As for the civil war back in the 1940s, well what do
you expect it is a matter of deegaan , the fight was over Ceel Afweyn and Garadag district so it effected Sacad Yunis
as well since they live there. I am glad they took part in it and wiped out Dhulos completely from thos areas.

Ill some up everything you said
1. 10,000 nalaye ahmed relocated to las anod ( something I already knew)
2. Jidaale( a place very close to the habar yuunis main body was evacuated)
Everything else about clearing all dhulos from sanaag was delusion
the little articles I posted was from the early 90s not 40s
You probably remember jamac siyaad fighting with hj against you recently so I don't have to remind you
Ill end this talk here

 

[Bohol]

If 10,000 Naleye Ahmads relocated to Las Anod what makes you think anybody is left in Sanaag then back in the 90s ?
Mathematically it doesn't add up. The keyword here is Dhulos retreated to Sool region. There was no Dhulos in Sanaag
at that time because they fled town by town not only Jidaali hence why it says "the Warsangeli moved into and occupied
most of the territory from which the Dhulbahante had retreated " "Meaning for the first time, the Warsangeli
shared borders with Habar Jeclo" .


That says it all. You abanadoned all your territories even those that bordered the HJ aka Ceel Qooxle not far from Fiqi
Fuliye and Kulaal, hence why Warsans had to fill in.


Bar ama Baro



Dhulos have the smallest land in Sanaag, when they left that narrow strip, Warsans had
to move west and fill it in.

 

[Freebandz]

If 10,000 Naleye Ahmads relocated to Las Anod what makes you think anybody is left in Sanaag then back in the 90s ?
Is like talking to a brick wall those 10,000 came from one place in erigavo district the town it self

Mathematically it doesn't add up. The keyword here is Dhulos retreated to Sool region. There was no Dhulos in Sanaag
at that time because they fled town by town not only Jidaali hence why it says "the Warsangeli moved into and occupied
most of the territory from which the Dhulbahante had retreated " "Meaning for the first time, the Warsangeli
shared borders with Habar Jeclo" .
All these quotes talks about one place and thats jidaale
Warsangeli don't live in anywhere else with dhulos what reason would they in occupying areas they never had any connection to
In your little article it literally says says nalaye ahmed abandoned sharing grazing areas the only place that had sharing grazing area near it was jidaale everything else was exclusive nalaye ahmed area

That says it all. You abanadoned all your territories even those that bordered the HJ aka Ceel Qooxle not far from Fiqi
Fuliye and Kulaal, hence why Warsans had to fill in.
This guy and his lies
Everything you just wrote was fabrication with little truth even in your post above you made assumption hey if they abandon this village it surely means they abandon all these other ones wrong damale xagare the place where dhulos militia were based in were kilometer just south of fiqi fuliye.
also the article about the conference in dararweyn litterly points out nalaye ahmed in awr boogays not being happy about the conference near in dararweyn a isaaq town few miles west of awr boogays
so tell me genius if nalaye ahmed were all kicked out of sanaag why are they in awr boogays a town few miles away from you people
fiq fuley and kulaal and all the other exclusive place nalaye ahmed lived in was never abandoned you just made it up i read about this story and each time the point out nalaye ahmed abandoning sharing grazing land aka areas near jidaale
you seem to be picking and choosing and misqouting
10,000 nalaye ahmed from erigabo itself moved to las anod
shortly after you people attacked damale xagare(the warsangeli portion) in my article alone it points out dhulbahante living in damale xagare( the dhulbahante one near fiqi fuliy) counter attacking even thoe it after the erigabo incidents since in my article it points out the hy were using erigabo as hq for where they lunched there attack from meaning your whole story about sanaag is bs

ama Baro

you were just questioning the crediablity of the white guy who created this map not long ago
now your using a map that was created from him
you dont live in las anod district like that map says
also that map says my own dhulos sub clan border isaaq in southern xudun when there isnt one isaaq in all of southern xudun
it also doesnt include kulaal and masagan a place 20 miles south of erigabo
in reality this is the true map

the map above is way more crediable and if remember correctly is used by isaaq themselve for arguments all the time
everybody who has any knowledge would tell you that borders between isaaq and dhulos is a straight straight diagonal lines and has been for decades
wait for isaaq to tell me that the cia map i gave is made by darod
even thoe i seen them use this the same map for there arguments when they try to argue they have more population
now lets look at the great hy and there vast land in sanaag and sool

i drew up the borders of the landhere hy and there neighbors with hj and i drew a line between the dhulbahante landgaabs and mj/warsangeli
preposterous this must be kacaan doing

 

[Bohol]

Nicca is trying to convince us Dhulos didn't fled Sanaag. Do you even know where Awr-Boogays is?
It is near the Sool border and actually comes under Xudun, it is nowhere near Dararweyne, Dararweyne is closer to
Fiqi Fuliye. 10,000 from Erigavo town? Don't make me laugh, Erigavo itself didn't have that population at that time and most
of the houses were owned by Habar Yoonis and Warsangeli. Don't get numbers out of your ass.

You can make paint maps all you want but we both know the reality, Gadhweyn
has taken over most of the little land you had and now settle in Dhuur Madare,
Dhoobe, Baashay , Dumar guduudshe, Laas Qacable etc all of them south east of
Ceerigaabo district.

"Two pastoralist groups hailing from Dhulbahante and Habar Yonis exchanged gunfire in Dhabeeda near Dibqarax Village
(42km SE of Ceerigaabo) following an escalated dispute over pasture in the morning of ." 11/2014




"Dagaal u dhexeeya beelaha Muuse ISmaciil ee dhuldurugsiga wada ee uu dabada ka riixayo maamulka SNM iyo beesha Ugaadhyahan -Naaleeye Axmed ayaa sababay dhimasho iyo dhaawacba . Sida la xaqiijiyey dhaawaca iyo dhimashada beesha Naaleeye Axmed ayaa hal nin oo dhaawac ugu dhintay magaalada Awr-boogays iyo laba nin oo dhaawacooda la geeyey magaalada Ceerigaabo sida uu sheegay Cabdiqani Cali Bulaale. Ninka Dhintay Alle Ha u Naxariistee ayaa lagu sheegay Maxamed Fure Cali (Ina Cali Fure)"

http://www.lafweyne.com/2014/12/13/dagaal-ka-dhacay-degaanka-dhabeebo-dhegeyso/

Your elders crying about the karbash they got in Dib Qarax area and Gadhweyn
enroaching on their lands, accusing the Erigavo district mayor of being behind
it.





After the Karbash in Dhaabeeda your so called Khaatumo ministers sent letters to the UN.


letter to the international community from ministry of foreign affairs and diaspora Khaatumo
state

The UN Special Representative of the Secretary General for Somalia, Mr Nicholas Kay
Dear Mr Kay

Please white massa come save us from Gadhweyn

Since 2014, Dhaabeeda and Taleex have been attacked also resulting the loss of innocent lives, damage to properties, destruction of wells. Somaliland has repeatedly attempted to derail and undermine the exercise of self-determination by the people of Khaatumo State, through the use of threats and violence.

http://allssc.com/2015/03/letter-to...fairs-and-diaspora-khaatumo-state-of-somalia/

 

[Freebandz]

Nicca is trying to convince us Dhulos didn't fled Sanaag. Do you even know where Awr-Boogays is?
It is near the Sool border and actually comes under Xudun, it is nowhere near Dararweyne, Dararweyne is closer to
Fiqi Fuliye. 10,000 from Erigavo town? Don't make me laugh, Erigavo itself didn't have that population at that time and most
of the houses were owned by Habar Yoonis and Warsangeli. Don't get numbers out of your ass.

You can make paint maps all you want but we both know the reality, Gadhweyn has taken over most of your land and now
settle in Dhuur Madare, Dhoobe, Baashay , Dumar guduudshe, Laas Qacable etc.

"Two pastoralist groups hailing from Dhulbahante and Habar Yonis exchanged gunfire in Dhabeeda near Dibqarax Village
(42km SE of Ceerigaabo) following an escalated dispute over pasture in the morning of ." 11/2014

grapping for straws the the erigabo article was posted back in somnet it was posted by poster called rambia he was parading about the few thousand nalaye ahmed fleding to las anod from erigabo
your dumb ass is literally arguing with me on a article that you dont know what context is in
use a simple logic 40-50% of nalaye ahmed live in sanaag they number nearly 100,000 today
in your brain 50% of them is 10,000
also every village you mentioned was never nalaye ahmed the only expansion you did was south and it wasnt much the most success you had was in aynobo district everything else was mininum
you know your struggling when you have use 2 naked herders having a shoot out as a proof
dip qarax in 2016 is still mine

 

[Bohol]

If some forumer posted it back in Somnet doesn't mean it is reliable. At maximum the entire Dhulo population in Sanaag is
no bigger than 15,000 at best. My sub clan of Sacad Yunis is bigger than Dhulos inside Sanaag.


Dib Qarax area is shared, Cabdalle Xamuud have strong presence in Dhaabeeda.


If you try to resist you will get a bullet as usual.

Kicking you out of Erigavo
is not enough we will also share with you the little strip of land you have in Sanaag.

There is also many new Gadhweyn settlements in South and South east of Erigavo
like this one.

Yoonis Muuse
Dhoob



Cabdalle Xamuud
Dhaban Dhige

 

[Freebandz]

If some forumer posted it back in Somnet doesn't mean it is reliable. At maximum the entire Dhulo population in Sanaag is
no bigger than 15,000 at best. My sub clan of Sacad Yunis is bigger than Dhulos inside Sanaag.


Dib Qarax area is shared, Cabdalle Xamuud have strong presence in Dhaabeeda.


If you try to resist you will get a bullet as usual.

Kicking you out of Erigavo
is not enough we will also share with you the little strip of land you have in Sanaag.

There is also many new Gadhweyn settlements in South and South east of Erigavo
like this one.

Yoonis Muuse
Dhoob



Cabdalle Xamuud
Dhaban Dhige

The person from from somnet posted continuation of the little piece you unknowingly arguing about you literally have no clue of the piece you
posted is about yet hear you are pretending to be an expert
Dhaban diig is a isaaq town west of masagan it was never nalaye ahmed I mean how could it be when fairly recently nalaye ahmed just expanded from the east to masagan while the place you posted about is further west of masagan
Dip qarax is a nalaye ahmed place and has been for some time.
The only dhoob place I see is surrounded by warsangeli and dhulbahante

Apparently hy live south east of jidaale some how one isaaq village is between nalaye ahmed and warsangeli surrounded by harti alone
Also awr boogays like I said earlier is few miles from dararweyn and there both part of the erigavo district
Nikka talking about is in xudun district

 

[BenevolentGaraad]

Is there a map like this for all of Somalia and all clans/sub-clans?

 

[Freebandz]

Is there a map like this for all of Somalia and all clans/sub-clans?

No that map is fake the one I posted earlier is the real one

 

[Bohol]

As I said Awr Boogays is near the border. Dhoob, Dhuur Madare
and north of Dib Qarax aka Dhaabeeda where the fighting took place
are all Gadhweyn areas. You're only allowed Fiqi Fuliye village.

 

[Bohol]

Is there a map like this for all of Somalia and all clans/sub-clans?

Yes there is. But generally the disputed areas is where Hartis predominantly settle in Somaliland.

 

[Freebandz]

Dhoob, Dhuur Madare and north of Dib Qarax aka Dhaabeeda where the fighting took place are all Gadhweyn areas.

I know for sure your lying dib qarax considering northwest of it is masagan itself
The fight was probably near in the west nalaye ahmed border
As for your story about you magically ending up behind inclave of dhulos villages no comment
The place your claiming is literally surrounded by dhulos or warsangeli
Tribe never fail to amaze me

 

[Bohol]

Read the report you illiterate clown... it says the fighting happened in Dhabeeda near Dib Qarax village /42km south east
of Ceerigaabo over pasture aka land dispute. It can't get more simple than that.


"Two pastoralist groups hailing from Dhulbahante and Habar Yonis exchanged gunfire in Dhabeeda near Dibqarax Village
(42km SE of Ceerigaabo) following an escalated dispute over pasture in the morning of ." 11/2014

 

[Freebandz]

Yes there is. But generally the disputed areas is where Hartis predominantly settle in Somaliland.

Apparently masagan, jidaale, dib qarax, horufadhi, ceegaag are isaaq lived places

 

[Bohol]

Dib Qarax is south east of Ceerigabo, anything north of it is Dhabeeda and that
is where Gadhweyn come in. It is pretty accurate map with few errors .The territory
North of Horufadhi is settled by HJ.