Puntland loses federal representation of disputed regions

[EDsomali]

Ok you are one of Aabos orphans I guess.

No Alx.

All my family are very pro SL and Ictiraaf, guess you could say I'm the black sheep of the family.

 

[Karim]

What about the 5 times you tried to re-capture Tukaraq, did they sneak in there and beg locals to defend the city from Buntland's army? Imagine losing to malnourished locals.

On this day and age no clan has the capacity to force the submission of another. Without your bribes and "development projects" the locals would've expelled you longtime. Almost all of Dhuloos elders endorse your stay and without their permission you won't last a day in Sool.

 

[EDsomali]

On this day and age no clan has the capacity to force the submission of another. Without your bribes and "development projects" the locals would've expelled you longtime. Almost all of Dhuloos elders endorse your stay and without their permission you won't last a day in Sool.

So the locals want Somaliland there because they bring development?

Says a lot about Buntland's governance and economy.

 

[Karim]

Too late lol.

The FG accepted the claim from Galmudug and allowed and accepted the formation of their federal state, So Buntland has no legitimacy in Mudug now unless Galmudug dissolves as a federal state.

FG is the highest authority of the land and the final decision lies with them which Buntland accepts.

Do you even hear yourself

Earlier you said "your preceding claims don't matter" and now you're backing off from that statement when i raised the possibility of claiming whole of Mudug.

sometimes I'm too late and sometimes I'm too early

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Thegoodshepherd @Django @Ayubi

Who the f*ck is this moron?!!

 

[Farm]

Do you even hear yourself

Earlier you said "your preceding claims don't matter" and now you're backing off from that statement when i raised the possibility of claiming whole of Mudug.

sometimes I'm too late and sometimes I'm too early

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Thegoodshepherd @Django @Ayubi

Who the f*ck is this moron?!!

Another problem with his argument is that Galnus officially stopped claiming North Mudug and only claims south Mudug. Don’t waste your time arguing with him.

 

[Karim]

Claim to two regions, it doesn't say you actually have to control them.

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@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Ayubi @Django @Ayubi @Farm @Crow @Arma

This is literally his earlier statement and he can't defend it

 

[EDsomali]

Do you even hear yourself

Earlier you said "your preceding claims don't matter" and now you're backing off from that statement when i raised the possibility of claiming whole of Mudug.

Sometimes I'm too late and sometimes I'm too early

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Thegoodshepherd @Django @Ayubi

Who the f*ck is this moron?!!

Buntland claimed the region when there was no federalism or FG hence previous claims to the region did not matter.

A) There was no authority when Buntland declared their federal state
B) When the FG and dastuur were agreed upon and Buntland's claims to part of a region were unconstitutional hence rejected thus Galmudug claim which was in line with the constitution where accepted.

Don't misunderstand me, Galmudug couldn't claim Bari since the federal government has ratified the states following the laws given to it by the constitution.

There is no argument about this.

Buntland was stupid to accept the constitution.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Do you even hear yourself

Earlier you said "your preceding claims don't matter" and now you're backing off from that statement when i raised the possibility of claiming whole of Mudug.

sometimes I'm too late and sometimes I'm too early

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Thegoodshepherd @Django @Ayubi

Who the f*ck is this moron?!!

These neefs dont realize it says two or more gobols can form a state if they WILLINGLY agree to form one.


Anyone can claim anything out of thier futos but this is the reality.

 

[EDsomali]

@Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Ayubi @Django @Ayubi @Farm @Crow @Arma

This is literally his earlier statement and he can't defend it

Can't claim half regions or quarter regions hence why the FG gave MPs to Galmudug.

If Buntland claimed all of Mudug before Galmudug creation and had it ratified by the constitution and by the FG then there would be no problem.

But they claim part of territories which is unconstitutional.

 

[Karim]

Buntland claimed the region when there was no federalism or FG hence previous claims to the region did not matter.

A) There was no authority when Buntland declared their federal state
B) When the FG and dastuur were agreed upon and Buntland's claims to part of a region were unconstitutional hence rejected thus Galmudug claim which was in line with the constitution where accepted.

Don't misunderstand me, Galmudug couldn't claim Bari since the federal government has ratified the states following the laws given to it by the constitution.

There is no argument about this.

Buntland was stupid to accept the constitution.

you're getting more desperate with your twisted logic. Don't embarrass yourself further ninyahow.

Puntland is the 1st state recognized by the FGS remember?!! We ain't talking about 1998 but 2013. GalNus was created two years after FGS recognized Puntland.

But your logic would've worked if you defended your "claim" policy more vehemently and I'd have easily held emergency parliamentary session and declared South Mudug part fo Puntland thus delegitimizing Galnus.
You're a disaster mate. Relax

 

[EDsomali]

Another problem with his argument is that Galnus officially stopped claiming North Mudug and only claims south Mudug. Don’t waste your time arguing with him.

If that's the case.

Then I think that Farmaajo will push Galmudug to claim North Galmudug. This law passing is probably indicative of the FG next move.

 

[Farm]

Can't claim half regions or quarter regions hence why the FG gave MPs to Galmudug.

If Buntland claimed all of Mudug before Galmudug creation and had it ratified by the constitution and by the FG then there would be no problem.

But they claim part of territories which is unconstitutional.

You fail to address the fact that Galnus claims only south Mudug even in their own constitution. You have no idea what you are talking about, I suggest you focus on closer to home in the triangle.

 

[Ismail Khan]

When you said occupied territories you mean your moms basement?

Saxib Baryo kuma joogno Somalia.You can bring all the ugandan fufus in laws from Xamar and see if you can do anything.

We cleansed your kind from DDS dont forget we Galnusmudg borders DDS.

You see we don’t need this kinda of attitude in Somalia. The reason being that OGs and occupation forces always go hand and hand. Where there is OG you are sure to find their zady Kenya or Ethiopia.
Try doing things on your own for once

 

[EDsomali]

you're getting more desperate with your twisted logic. Don't embarrass further ninyahow.

Puntland is the 1st state recognized by the FGS remember?!! We ain't talking about 1998 but 2013. GalNus was created two years after FGS recognized Puntland.

But your logic would've worked if you defended your "claim" policy more vehemently and I'd have easily held emergency parliamentary session and declare South Mudug part fo Puntland thus delegitimizing Galnus.

You're misunderstanding me.

The claims were constitutional if Buntland, when formed, claimed all of Mudug and the FG accepted then no problems.

But that isn't the case, they claimed half of the regions and thus their claims are unconstitutional. Galmudug came along and claimed the whole region which was constitutional and accepted by the FG alongside the constitution.

Buntland previously claims to North Mudug despite being 3 years earlier and controlling the area for 2 decades don't matter in this scenario since its unconstitutional.

 

[EDsomali]

You fail to address the fact that Galnus claims only south Mudug even in their own constitution. You have no idea what you are talking about, I suggest you focus on closer to home in the triangle.

The FG sees otherwise.

In Buntland's constitution, they claim North Mudug but in reality, the FG doesn't.

Remember the FG which is the highest authority of the land and in charge of State building doesn't accept this.

Look at this law lol, the FG is literally saying Sool iyo Sanaag are Somaliland's, its indicative of the future of Mudug.

 

[Ayubi]

You see we don’t need this kinda of attitude in Somalia. The reason being that OGs and occupation forces always go hand and hand. Where there is OG you are sure to find their zady Kenya or Ethiopia.
Try doing things on your own for once

Technically, South Somalia is occupied by Amisom regardless of clans. OGs are indigenous to South Somalia (Jubaland) and have a place in Somalia so you're pathetically wrong.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

@Karim this 1d0or @EDsomali xasid sana


He wants yall to join my nigga @Lex Luther Galnus where at any minute you can have 3-4 presidents. Forget 20 plus years being part of a state.

 

[EDsomali]

@Karim this 1d0or @EDsomali xasid sana


He wants yall to join my nigga @Lex Luther Galnus where at any minute you can have 3-4 presidents. Forget 20 plus years being part of a state.

Leave petty insults behind and refute my points.

Why has the FG given all of Galmudug Mudug's MPs?

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Leave petty insults behind and refute my points.

Why has the FG given all of Galmudug Mudug's MPs?

What the hell are you talking about?

The MPs are allocated using 4.5 qabil system not by regions.

 

[Farm]

What the hell are you talking about?

The MPs are allocated using 4.5 qabil system not by regions.

The next FGS so called election will be the same set up using 4.5 the only difference is you will supposedly elect your clan representatives instead of elders. Meaning this whole thread is bs and this person has been arguing about nothing.