Puntland statement on the process of Federalization in Somalia

I’ll throw you a life line, as I am in a generous mood, in the hope that you'll learn a thing or two from it next time when engaging others. See, you probably are used to a debating style void of facts, where one digresses, diverges, and converges as if serving mince pie for dinner on cement board - more of a smorgasbord type of scattered thinking. The arguments PL is making are all valid, and should have been positioned against the anti-federalist tide a long time ago, but Deni is anything, but an honest broker, playing horse trading in midstream, benefiting neither the locals, nor the national interest. That should be your rebuttal. All else is just ‘gacma daalis’. Now, that you are being rescued (how long are we to continue doing that, and your are not the slimmest among your equals), just try sticking to the facts. Atta lad.

If you still think you could rise to the challenge, try the remaining 3 items, and this time, take a deep breath, and repeat after me: 'I can do this'.


I think that's one of the teenage boys on this forum, don't waste your precious time on him. Ignore saar caruurta, waa iga talo. If their adults have reading skills, iyaga uu jawaab.
 
I’ll throw you a life line, as I am in a generous mood, in the hope that you'll learn a thing or two from it next time when engaging others. See, you probably are used to a debating style void of facts, where one digresses, diverges, and converges as if serving mince pie for dinner on cement board - more of a smorgasbord type of scattered thinking. The arguments PL is making are all valid, and should have been positioned against the anti-federalist tide a long time ago, but Deni is anything, but an honest broker, playing horse trading in midstream, benefiting neither the locals, nor the national interest. That should be your rebuttal. All else is just ‘gacma daalis’. Now, that you are being rescued (how long are we to continue doing that, and your are not the slimmest among your equals), just try sticking to the facts. Atta lad.

If you still think you could rise to the challenge, try the remaining 3 items, and this time, take a deep breath, and repeat after me: 'I can do this'.
More aunt sally crap, I stated my opinions mate on why it is obvious to non Puntlanders why PL has no interest finalising the dastuur and will always hold that same position no matter who is in charge. You can address it or ignore it.

Btw I'd be lying if I said I think that what Deni is doing is not in the interest of PL. No one likes giving up autonomy it is obvious, that's why FGS has to pass the laws, be indifferent to on PL input. And PL will slowly over the years come into the terms with the reality.
 
The federal constitution gives PL full autonomy and they can't relinquish that, even after negotiations I don't think PL will give up more powers than already mentioned in the constitution like defense, foreign affairs, money, etc.
PL is the only state that has that autonomy and no other state has that right, so it doesn't matter if they agree to something else since they're already influenced by FGS, but since the provisional federal constitution is influenced by PL and gives them special status you think it's good idea to ignore it and give FGS most of the powers.
My opinion is, Deni should've started the negotiations and name a committee that can negotiate with Mogadishu, because I don't think you even need to settle Somaliland and the capital issues to agree on solving other issues that can lead to separation of powers until we complete the constitution.
Bro no one likes giving up autonomy but that article will be thrown out of the window whether PL likes it or not. There is no room for compromises one side will be humbled. FGS will march on no matter the position PL takes.
 
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Abaq

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Good on Puntland. This madhalays republic is dead, time we pray the Janazah and move on.

Unfortunately, Jubbaland has been hijacked by Madoobe. OG elites in Jubbaland have no say and those that would say something have been banned. We are now at the mercy of whatever he fancies so we rely on Puntland to end this madhalays republic
 

GemState

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There is a general consensus on roughly 75-80 percent of the current draft of the the constitution. We can work on the remaining issues, negotiate on it, compromise where necessary, and get it ratified. No need for booto

Finalize the constitution, organize a referendum, and ratify it ASAP
 
There is a general consensus on roughly 75-80 percent of the current draft. We can work on the remaining issues, negotiate on it, compromise where necessary, and get it ratified. No need for booto

Finalize the constitution, organize a referendum, and ratify it ASAP
I agree. unnecessary faan is not required here from puntland. sit down on the table and finish the constitution so everyone can move on.
 
There is a general consensus on roughly 75-80 percent of the current draft of the the constitution. We can work on the remaining issues, negotiate on it, compromise where necessary, and get it ratified. No need for booto
Finalize the constitution, organize a referendum, and ratify it ASAP
Absolutely. It is the national interest, and of the citizen, to do so.
 
Bro no one likes giving up autonomy but that article will be thrown out of the window whether PL likes it or not. There is no room for compromises one will be humbled. FGS will march on no matter the position PL takes.
It will be thrown out when a new constitution is written, until then PL will have that special status, it was a genius move from PL to add that article to the constitution.
 
It will be thrown out when a new constitution is written, until then PL will have that special status, it was a genius move from PL to add that article to the constitution.
Amendments are not unheard of. Only argument needed is, whether PL was a FMS before FGS was formed. I'd argue PL became FMS when FGS was formed. The good old the chicken or the egg.
 

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