Puntlander lady "Ajnabiga iyo Eelaayda Puntland ha laga saaro"

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

"Ku qabso, ka qadi mayside"

If you give an inch they will take a mile.

Puntland has to decide


Is PL a Somali government or a Puntland government , I like Gaas approach best he kept distance from Muqdisho and built up on PL independence

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I did not say they were beyond reproach, but in comparison are no where near nomads.

Everyone becomes dangerous when hungry. We cannot afford to have unemployed/underemployed shisheeye. They will not have the same patience and understanding for the harsh way of life in the North-East. That's why AlShabab exploits them.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

So tbh if you guys want expell all the Reewins it will be a good thing for us. But the only downside is that it will be shameful on your reputation and you will go down in the books similar to somalilanders to be people who expelled Somalis from native Somali land.

it will not happen, I do not think.

 

[Kamaaludeen Al Reewin]

Why do you guys call every rx person eelay, it makes more sense to say d&m. I could be wrong though. @Kamaaludeen Al Reewin do you know ?

Eelaay is the biggest Raxanweyn subclan. But it's also a way of belitilling Raxanweyn. Because nobody calls Daarood mj or Hawiye Abgaal.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Tbh I wouldnt even mind D&M being expelled from Puntland. Apart from the fact it is damaging to the idea of somalinimo and the right of all Somalis to live across the Somali peninsula it would actually be beneficial to Somali people.

This is because of the fact that those people living and working in Puntland are needed in their place of origin. They can take whatever business or manual jobs they do to koonfur galbeed and use it to increase our economy.

So tbh if you guys want expell all the Reewins it will be a good thing for us. But the only downside is that it will be shameful on your reputation and you will go down in the books similar to somalilanders to be people who expelled Somalis from native Somali land.

There is no such thing as 'Somalinimo' first of all. When Hawiye were beating the USC war drums, D&M AND Bantus were part of their movements, were they not? But we didn't hold it against you guys, and instead welcomed your people.

We cannot afford to have a large number of unemployed and angry people living with us. It's in YOUR best interest to have them back home, to make SWS formidable. Runta hadaa rabtid. Dhulkiina dhista and enter the development competition.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

That's why AlShabab exploits them.

But but but, the same is true in JL, Hiran, and Sh House, not only in PL.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

But but but, the same is true in JL, Hiran, and Sh House, not only in PL.

Their homelands, yes. That's an internal terror issue. We have our own homegrown criminals and terrorists to deal with. We don't have the time or money to be out here monitoring dadkale.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Farming vs nomads communities. Former tend to be laid back, unassuming, tolerant, least aggressive folk whereas the latter are highly motivated, aggressive go-getters. Imagine, what their offsprings would have been like were we to marry the two!

But but but, your folk have 2, possibly 4 districts in SWest, if I am not mistaken. What say you to that, my lord?

Yet, no MPs, even though MJs have been in SWS, as a political and economic force, for over a Century. What shall we do about that.

 

[TheLand]

Farming vs nomads communities. Former tend to be laid back, unassuming, tolerant, least aggressive folk whereas the latter are highly motivated, aggressive go-getters. Imagine, what their offsprings would have been like were we to marry the two!

But but but, your folk have 2, possibly 4 districts in SWest, if I am not mistaken. What say you to that, my lord?

We have no representation there as far as I know and Lafta is sure as hell not building us homes there

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

We have no representation there as far as I know and Lafta is sure as hell not building us homes there

I am just disgusted at how easily PL hands over political access, in exchange for nothing but a headache. I bet you, they did all of this to appease Western donors who are hellbent on planting dadkale on our deegaan.

 

[Kamaaludeen Al Reewin]

There is no such thing as 'Somalinimo' first of all. When Hawiye were beating the USC war drums, D&M AND Bantus were part of their movements, were they not? But we didn't hold it against you guys, and instead welcomed your people.

We cannot afford to have a large number of unemployed and angry people living with us. It's in YOUR best interest to have them back home, to make SWS formidable. Runta hadaa rabtid. Dhulkiina dhista and enter the development competition.

Go ahead then. Expell these masaakin people who sought refuge in Puntland and do nothing but work hard to provide for their families.

The real damage is gonna be on the sharaf and reputation of Puntland. You will always be known as the people who deported native Somalis from Somali land, even worse with no valid reason just because they happen to be more hard working and entrepenurial then the locals.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

We have no representation there as far as I know and Lafta is sure as hell not building us homes there

You do have MPs in the parliament, and portfolios in the Cabinet. Sh Sakiin intentionally tried to rob those. Reer Burashadley are represented, perhaps not rightly, as they would have wanted, but represented nonetheless.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Go ahead then. Expell these masaakin people who sought refuge in Puntland and do nothing but work hard to provide for their families.

The real damage is gonna be on the sharaf and reputation of Puntland. You will always be known as the people who deported native Somalis from Somali land, even worse with no valid reason just because they happen to be more hard working and entrepenurial then the locals.

After all of my reasonable posts, this is what you have come up with. Stop the victim mentality and be proactive. I don't agree with expulsion, I agree with peaceful repatriation to HOMES, built in SWS by Laftagareen et al.

You're not entitled to anything, and I will not be guilted with fake Somalinimo. There is no higher sharaf than lobbying for YOUR development.

 

[Kamaaludeen Al Reewin]

Eelaay are the ones who were begging before the Oromos came. There is dhaqan xumo and a culture clash that needs to be dealt with. Nobody just complains about people for no reason.

I actually find this hilarious. On one hand we are accused of being beggars, doing tuugsi on every street corner. And when we do work a honest living or have a small business we are blamed for taking all the jobs and dominating the market.

We can't win can we.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I actually find this hilarious. On one hand we are accused of being beggars, doing tuugsi on every street corner. And when we do work a honest living or have a small business we are blamed for taking all the jobs and dominating the market.

We can't win can we.

LOL

1. There are Eelaay beggars, and that reputation exists in the South far more. Don't act obtuse.
2. There are Eelaays who rent shops from locals.

Both are true at the same time.

 

[TheLand]

You do have MPs in the parliament, and portfolios in the Cabinet. Sh Sakiin intentionally tried to rob those.

Then I would trade them straight up for the Eelay in PL. Let them come on back home. I am all for PL gov building them homes. Surely it is better to live in PL then shabaab-infested KG?

 

[Kamaaludeen Al Reewin]

After all of my reasonable posts, this is what you have come up with. Stop the victim mentality and be proactive. I don't agree with expulsion, I agree with peaceful repatriation to HOMES, built in SWS by Laftagareen et al.

You're not entitled to anything, and I will not be guilted with fake Somalinimo. There is no higher sharaf than lobbying for YOUR development.

Some of those people have been living in putland for 10+ years, that's their home now. Some of those kids haven't spent a day in Baydhabo or xuddur or diinsoor. All they know is bossaso and garowe and qardho. And you want to send them back? Very inhumane.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Some of those people have been living in putland for 10+ years, that's their home now. Some of those kids haven't spent a day in Baydhabo or xuddur or diinsoor. All they know is bossaso and garowe and qardho. And you want to send them back? Very inhumane.

LOL

Inhumane? To send someone back to a home on fertile soil? You know, maybe we should do a land swap.

 

[Devilsadvocate]

The only Bantus that have entitlement to Puntland are those who worked for Boqor Osmaan/Majeerteenia. Sorry. But the rest? Ask the Geledi City State descendants. As for Jubbaland, ask anyone but us. There are no jobs for them anymore. They've been complaining for years. Ma anaga idin dhalnay? Our own people are suffering when they lose livestock or can't find jobs.

South-West State
Jubbaland

Those two are responsible for Somalia's D&M and Bantu population crisis.

“our own people” both RX and puntlanders are your people so why are you seperating them?

 

[TheLand]

Some of those people have been living in putland for 10+ years, that's their home now. Some of those kids haven't spent a day in Baydhabo or xuddur or diinsoor. All they know is bossaso and garowe and qardho. And you want to send them back? Very inhumane.