Rape is very common in Somalia/land and other Somali regions

[Mohamud]

Gay men dont mind rape.

I'm not talking about straight men.

 

[Inactive]

Not only is heterosexual rape as common as chewing khat there but alot of the women also get HIV.

Not rape but husbands have sex with Ethiopian prostitutes and then infect their wives during sex.

 

[dhegdheer]

I'm not surprised ppl think it's unheard of, many sexual assault crimes go unreported due to the stigma attached to it. This article highlighted some of the issues in reporting rape.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...reporting-rape-somalia-20131261475333929.html

The stigma attached to rape is deeply entrenched in Somali society, and it is difficult for male Somali journalists to speak with victims about rape. It is even more difficult for the female victims, since most of the country's journalists are men.

"Anything involving sex is hard to cover in Somalia. It is easier to speak to bomb victims than rape victims," said Mohamed Mohamud Dahir, a popular presenter at SKY FM.

With Somalia still in the midst of a civil war that has lasted for more than two decades, it is impossible to know the true extent of rape. The government and NGOs are only present in some areas of the country, and they often don't agree on the prevalence of sexual attacks.

Representatives from non-governmental organisations - who asked to remain nameless to protect themselves from retribution - say thousands of women are raped in Somalia every year. Many of the NGOs report the cases without taking the alleged victims to hospitals, for medical tests, or to the police station.

 

[Sixth]

How can you tackle a problem when you people deny it?

Look at this donut, no one's denying anything mate. It does happen and everyone who has posted on this very thread acknowledges that fact
but to say that it's 'very common' is wrong, it's not fucking common. Meesha waa la isku raacsanyahay that there's no type of power in place to rebuff the sub-human trash that do partake in these activities or help the victims which are often (yes as stupid as it sounds) blamed.

Hebetudinous ass nigga if you want to get a thread poppin' just ask, quit regurgitating the same qashin over and over again.

 

[Inactive]

but to say that it's 'very common' is wrong

You've never left Europe so you don't know about the situation. You're only familiar with the rapes in Sweden

 

[Sixth]

You've never left Europe so you don't know about the situation. You're only familiar with the rapes in Sweden

Safe bruv, laanta hawada dhinaacada ka raac.

 

[Dhabaal]

According to the UNDP, Somalia has a low overall rate of sexual violence.

In 2012, the reported nationwide prevalence rate ranged from 2% to 13%.[202] Most incidents of sexual assault occurred within the context of the insurgency in southern Somalia. Over the first quarter of 2013, Amnesty International reported that 56.7% of victims in Mogadishu were internally displaced persons. According to the UN, there were at least 2,924 rape cases in IDP settlements in 2012. A third of the victims were under the age of 18. 70% of the perpetrators were armed men wearing uniforms, although it was not always clear whether they were members of militias, security forces or other individuals or groups.[203] To address the issue, the central authorities as of December 2013 were in the process of forming a special crime unit to investigate and counter gender-based violence, as well as constructing a clinic set aside for victims of sexual assault. The national judiciary, security and police forces were all concurrently receiving specialized gender training as part of the broader reform effort.[204]

In June 2014, the Somali government also launched a National Action Plan against sexual violence in conjunction with local civil society groups


The majority of sexual violence that takes place in Somalia is inform of incursion, by Alshabaab, Amison and workers for the criminal damul jadiid govt. as weapons of war..

 

[Inactive]

Rape isnt reported back home.

Shameful you brought a UN report. The UN has no legitimacy and is crooked. The UN is involved in the rapes themselves. But most rape is done by locals to locals.

 

[Dhabaal]

Rape isnt reported back home.

They don't use reports to calculate crime rate. By that logic people wouldn't know how many were not reported.

Shameful you brought a UN report. The UN has no legitimacy and is crooked. The UN is involved in the rapes themselves. But most rape is done by locals to locals.

UN report is legitimate son.

Sexual violence happens and its a crime no one denies it, Somalia also needs justice reforms,.

But to say it is very common is not true.

 

[dhegdheer]

But in this report the UN claims that rape and sexual abuse is wide spread in Somalia...

http://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/countries/somalia/

According to the Gender-Based Violence Information Management System, 2,891 incidents of gender-based violence were reported between January and August 2014 in Mogadishu alone. Of these, 28 per cent were cases of rape and 9 per cent were sexual assaults. These numbers are regarded as a gross underestimation, as fear of stigma and reprisals inhibits reporting.

Interviews with women’s groups in the newly recovered area of Hudur, in the Bakool region, indicate that forced marriage was common, as it was in other areas under the control of Al-Shabaab. Girls forced to marry Al-Shabaab fighters are often abandoned during military offensives, when the force retreats or when they are deemed to be “too old”.

http://www.voanews.com/a/un-says-rape-gender-based-violence-rampant-in-somalia/1731127.html

GENEVA — The United Nations says that rape and sexual abuse is widespread throughout Somalia, though cases remain seriously underreported. A new report notes during the first half of the year, from January to June, some 800 cases of sexual and gender-based violence were reported in the capital, Mogadishu, alone

Sexual and gender-based violence has been pervasive in Somalia for many years and appears to be growing. A spokesman for the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, Jens Laerke, says internally displaced women and girls are most affected.

 

[Dhabaal]

Un report only talks about the reported and under-reported rape cases , it's says nothing about overall sexual violence rate of it. Overall sexual violence rate in Somalia is very low. Your second web link affirms my post above that, most sexual violence happens by Alshabaab, amisoms and armed militia as a weapons of war in form of incursion in IDP camps.

Rape happens no on denies that, but it isn't very common thing. Nor is it a cultural or accepted thing.

I have feeling you guys desperately want it to be a common thing

 

[dhegdheer]

The south/ central part, IDP camps (which are located all over the country, included the north) and Alshabaab controlled areas are not part of Somalia now, ok

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../CIG_-_Somalia_-_Women_fearing_GBV_-_v3_0.pdf

In 2014, the government endorsed an action plan to address alarming levels of sexual violence. However, as in other prioritized reform areas, implementation has been slow and protection of the most vulnerable communities non-existent. While the full scope of sexual violence remains unknown, internally displaced women and girls are clearly particularly vulnerable to rape by armed men, including government soldiers and militia members.

But the problems facing women’s rights in the African nation don’t end there. Victims of sexual violence in Somalia are continuing to face persecution and social exclusion.

This obviously wouldn't affect the data available, nope

Current Somali law on sexual violence is based on the colonial-era penal code that dates back to the 1930s. Under this legislation, rape is not considered a crime against an individual like murder or assault. Instead it falls into a lesser category of “crime against morality” along with homosexuality and bestiality.

glad to see that Puntland is at attempting to change things tho

Didn't ur teacher tell you that Wikipedia isn't a credible source anyone can edit stuff on there you know

 

[Dhabaal]

You posted another article mentioned the same shit that i posted. In Somalia most sexual violence happens as weapons of war in concentrated areas of Mogadishu IDP camps, displaced people , by Amisom, Alshabaab and Militia members. I fully acknowledge that it is happening and they need take measures for them.

However the overall rate of sexual violence across the pond is low. So it is not common thing unless you are in IDP camps and that is not done by local civilians.

Yes Somalia need justice reforms which i have said before.

 

[dhegdheer]

ur posting the same shit from wikipidia over and over again... At least i'm bringing actual receipts from reliable sources.

I find it hard to believe that a community that routinely places the blame of sexual abuse on the victims have a low rate of sexual violence... It's funny how you keep insisting on claiming it's not in our daqan yet completely ignore the attitudes held by most somalis

Last year a report from Human Rights Watch revealed that rape was considered “normal” in Somalia with perpetrators rarely brought to justice.

Civilians engage in it too so idk why your trying to confine it to Amison/Alshabaab/military members. In Hargeisa you're basically told not to go outside, at night, if your a girl because there are gangs of men roaming around trying to lure girls outside... Going out without a mahram makes you a target too.

The overall low rate of sexual violence statistic is laughable since it's been proven that gender based violence is closely associated with inequality between men and women.

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/gender.pdf

The relationship between gender and violence is complex. Evidence suggests, however, that gender inequalities increase the risk of violence by men against women and inhibit the ability of those affected to seek protection

Often inequalities in gender increase the risk of acts of violence by men against women (see definitions, Box 1). For instance, traditional beliefs that men have a right to control women make women and girls vulnerable to physical, emotional and sexual violence by men (1,2). They also hinder the ability of those affected to remove themselves from abusive situations or seek support (3).

Somali women are treated like shit in Somalia... Draw your own conclusion

 

[AceofSom]

It could be very high unofficially, similar to South Africa, Swaziland and Swedish (migrants) rates. It is very possibly top 5 highest in the world.

Almost zero are even reported because of the shame it brings to admit that you were raped.

Very sad. Rapists should be killed

Bring evidence mate.

 

[Dhabaal]

ur posting the same shit from wikipidia over and over again... At least i'm bringing actual receipts from reliable sources.

I find it hard to believe that a community that routinely places the blame of sexual abuse on the victims have a low rate of sexual violence... It's funny how you keep insisting on claiming it's not in our daqan yet completely ignore the attitudes held by most somalis



Civilians engage in it too so idk why your trying to confine it to Amison/Alshabaab/military members. In Hargeisa you're basically told not to go outside, at night, if your a girl because there are gangs of men roaming around trying to lure girls outside... Going out without a mahram makes you a target too.

The overall low rate of sexual violence statistic is laughable since it's been proven that gender based violence is closely associated with inequality between men and women.

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/gender.pdf





Somali women are treated like shit in Somalia... Draw your own conclusion

You just mixing your own subjective opinions (Hargeisa, mahram and whatever) while qouting the same source about marginalized women in IDP camps.

Sexual violence is not common unless you are in IDP camps.

I encourage anyone to read the source fully https://www.hrw.org/report/2014/02/...ve-point-plan-curtail-sexual-violence-somalia and not get swayed here by quotes taken out of contexts.

Summary of your own source.

Maryam, a 37-year-old single mother, said that the night before her interview with Human Rights Watch, she could hear a woman being attacked at the camp for internally displaced persons (IDPs) where she lives with her six children in Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu. The episode brought back the trauma of her own experiences of sexual assault. Maryam said that rape had become even more pervasive at the camp in Wadajir district of the capital and the situation for women had deteriorated since she herself was raped there in 2012. “In our camp when we saw someone, we used to say, ‘Hi, how are you.’ Now when we see each other we ask, ‘Were you raped today?’”

Maryam said that the first time she was raped, she was five months pregnant and asleep in her makeshift shelter in Wadajir district. “The four men all raped me one by one while one of them stood guard outside. I was struggling with the last man and he stabbed me with the bayonet on his gun. I was screaming and no one came out to help.”

The next day, the camp “gatekeeper” (manager) checked up on her as word spread in the camp about the assault. He took her to the police station where she reported that one of the rapists was wearing a police uniform. “I then started to bleed profusely from my vagina.… They told me to go home and wash off the blood. But before they let me go, they told me I had to wash the floor where I was bleeding. I sat down, they gave me a brush and I cleaned the floor.” She never returned to the police station to pursue the case. She was afraid the assailants would come after her and “do something worse.” Shortly after, Maryam miscarried. Three months later, she was raped again at night in her tent by a different gang of assailants.

Qouting your source.

Armed assailants, including members of state security forces, operating with complete impunity, sexually assault, rape, beat, shoot, and stab women and girls inside camps for the displaced and as they walk to market, tend to their fields, or forage for firewood. Members of Somalia’s long marginalized minority communities are particularly at risk.

Like i said, Most sexual violence happens as weapons of war in concentrated areas of Mogadishu IDP camps, displaced people , by Amisom, Alshabaab and Militia members. I fully acknowledge that it is happening and they need take measures for them.

I also agree that Somalia need justice reforms take place to bring suffiecient justice and prevent this

However the overall rate of sexual violence across the pond is low. Its high and common in Mogadishu IDP camps perpatrated by Militia man, Amisom, Soldiers and Alshabaab who do it with impunity not by local civilians

 

[Dhabaal]

It shows some people are messed up in head, when they really try hard to distort and bend facts just to create false victimization

 

[Tramo]

@Dhabaal so u would just let ur daughter or sister roam the streets of Hargeisa alone at night, cuz it's all good right

"Aabo come with me to the dukaan plz, gabdhaha habeeniki waa la kufsada"

Dhabaal: "No, that's just ur subjective opinion, there is no empirical evidence on Wikipedia.com to support that"

 

[Galaeri]

Some of the people in this thread must be rape victims

Don't see any other reasons for these strong sentiments.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Girls do roam the streets of Hargeisa alone at night, I don't know what rape masturbating fantasies you boys have been fed. There are some dark unlit parts of the city people generally avoid going alone but for the most part it's relatively safe.