ResearchGate: Beja and Cushitic Languages in Middle Egyptian Texts. Nile Cushitic is East Cushitic

[TheLand]

It's kind of weird to think that if the Egyptian speakers hadn't encroached upon and usurped the prior EC speakers, an East Cushitic language would have been among the earliest two recorded languages in Human history alongside Sumerian.

That’s incredible and sad at the same time. I can already imagine the amount of kibir we would have had if that was the case. Does that also mean we probably wouldn’t have moved south to Somalia?

 

[Shimbiris]

That’s incredible and sad at the same time. I can already imagine the amount of kibir we would have had if that was the case. Does that also mean we probably wouldn’t have moved south to Somalia?

I think the Cushites in Egypt just stayed there and got absorbed. But who knows how many may have been pushed south. But it does seem apparent that the old original AA trio after Omotic left early were Cushitic-Semitic-Berber that appear to form a node. Semito-Berber then split and further split from each other with one going east and the other West and partly staying put perhaps whilst Cushitic remained until it was absorbed by the younger Egyptian branch.

To be honest, it's very blatant that Pre-dynastic and early Dynastic Egyptians are our forebears. Study Egyptian Y-DNA enough and you'll be shook at all the E-M78s, E-V22 (dominant Saho subclade) and so on.

These guys were Horners' paternal forebears and from looking at the old craniofacial studies and how nearly identical Somalis look to the Naqadan samples, I'd say all the "Natufian" and "IBM" we show in G25 is pretty much Pre-Egyptian speaking Egyptians who intermixed heavily with likely Nilo-Saharans in Sudan then came down to the Horn in waves.

 

[Maakhri2024]

@Araabi @Shimbiris I guess you guys didn’t fully read through this document. One of the names of the women listed on the sarcophagus is speculated to be related to the cushitic word ‘culus’(heavy). It reminded me of the name ‘Culusow’ and I could not stop laughing

The cushitic / Somali word (culus علس ) is related to Hebrew word עמס (camas عمس ) .
L ↔ M ,
ʿls (cls ) ↔ ʿms (cms ) .
ʿms ( ع-م-س ) =ʿls ( ع-ل-س ) .

hebrew word עמס means : (noun) : load , burden .
(verb) :to load, carry, to carry a load .

Camoos the prophet ( عاموس النبي ) = culus / Culusow .

Amos (prophet) = Camoos the prophet​

Amos (/ˈeɪməs/; Hebrew: עָמוֹס ( camoos عاموس) – ʿĀmōs) was one of the Twelve Minor Prophets of the Hebrew Bible and Christian Old Testament.

 

[Midas]

I think the Cushites in Egypt just stayed there and got absorbed. But who knows how many may have been pushed south. But it does seem apparent that the old original AA trio after Omotic left early were Cushitic-Semitic-Berber that appear to form a node. Semito-Berber then split and further split from each other with one going east and the other West and partly staying put perhaps whilst Cushitic remained until it was absorbed by the younger Egyptian branch.

To be honest, it's very blatant that Pre-dynastic and early Dynastic Egyptians are our forebears. Study Egyptian Y-DNA enough and you'll be shook at all the E-M78s, E-V22 (dominant Saho subclade) and so on.

These guys were Horners' paternal forebears and from looking at the old craniofacial studies and how nearly identical Somalis look to the Naqadan samples, I'd say all the "Natufian" and "IBM" we show in G25 is pretty much Pre-Egyptian speaking Egyptians who intermixed heavily with likely Nilo-Saharans in Sudan then came down to the Horn in waves.

One thing that's confused me about the Nilo-Saharan component is that Shouldn't we have some west african ancestry then ? Since all Nilo-Saharan seem to have a west african component?

 

[Maakhri2024]

@Shimbiris @Maakhri2024 Interestingly, one of the other names mentioned in this document has a Cushitic root of khn or kahan as they speculate. Apparently it means to love. They say it is not in the east cushitic branch but the speculated forms of it contains a name that is strikingly similar to the Somali name ‘Kaahin’. I always wondered what it meant, and perhaps this is a possible answer.

I think the word ( khn or kaahin) is related to animal sacrifice / slaughtering animals .
h ↔ w ,
khn ↔ kwn ,
kaahin ↔ kawaanle .
q ↔ k ,
y ↔ h ,
khn ↔ kwn are related to the somali word : qal (qalay ) or the somali word gooy / gooyin .

gooy verb means: to cut (down ~ off ~ up) .

A priest ( kaahin / kawaanle ) is a person who slaughters and sacrifices animals to the god .

kawaan verb. butcher , cut up (an animal),
kawaanle noun. butcher