ResearchGate: Beja and Cushitic Languages in Middle Egyptian Texts. Nile Cushitic is East Cushitic

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mswo is possibly related to the Somali word meseggo / masaggo.
mswo = msgo ( meseggo / masaggo ) .

meseggo / masaggo : millet .
meseggo / masaggo m.dh Nooc badarka ka mid ah,
midabbo badan leh, galleyda ka yaryar
geedkeedu dusha sare sabuul kuusan oo soo
godan ku leh, aadna nafaqo u leh. ld
masaggo.


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I don't think punt (pwnt) is a boon.

p โ†’ k / g / x / f .

In ancient Egyptian " pr " represents the word "house" , which corresponds, for example : gr (guri ) or xr ( xero ) in Somali .

๐“Šช Uniliteral phonogram for p ,
๐“ˆ– Uniliteral phonogram for n.
p โ†’ k ,
pn โ†’ kn .
๐“Šช ๐“ˆ–
( pn ) means : this . ( for masculine singular proximal demonstrative determiner ) .
so , in ancient Egyptian " pn " which means : this , corresponds, kn : kan in Somali .

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๐“Šช Uniliteral phonogram for p ,
๐“†‘ Uniliteral phonogram for f ,
๐“Šช ๐“†‘ ( pf ) means : that ( for masculine singular distal demonstrative determiner ) .
p โ†’ k ,
f โ†’ s ,

pf โ†’ ks .
so , in ancient Egyptian " pf " which means : that , corresponds , ks : kaas in Somali .
 
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Land of Punt ( pwnt : ๐“Šช ๐“ƒน ๐“ ๐“ˆ‰ )
๐“Šช Uniliteral phonogram for p,
๐“ƒน Biliteral phonogram for wn,
๐“ Uniliteral phonogram for t ,
๐“ˆ‰ Logogram for แธซ๊œฃst ( โ€œ foreign land, desert โ€ ) .


๐“ˆ– Uniliteral phonogram for n .
๐“‹ด Uniliteral phonogram for s .
๐“ƒน
Biliteral phonogram for wn .

๐“ƒน ๐“ˆ– wnn
means : fault, blame.
๐“ƒน ๐“ˆ– wnn = cnn ( canaan / canaanto ) in Somali .

๐“‹ด ๐“ƒน swn means : (โ€œto tradeโ€) +โ€Ž -t .
๐“‹ด ๐“ƒน ๐“ swnt means : trade / price = swgd ( soo gad ) in Somali .
๐“‹ด ๐“ƒน swn means : (transitive) to open , to offer for sale , to buy .

s- ( causative prefix ) +โ€Ž ๐“ƒน wn ( โ€œ to open โ€ ) .
๐“ƒน wn = fr ( fur ) in Somali .
๐“‹ด ๐“ƒน swn = sfr ( soo fur ) / Lfr ( La fur ) in Somali .

๐“ƒน Biliteral phonogram for wn,
๐“ƒน ( wn ) means :
(transitive) to open (a door) ,
(transitive) to open (a container)
(transitive, rare) to unlatch (a bolt or latch)
(transitive) to open the way into (a place), to open up, to make (a building, fortress, city, sanctum, tomb, cavern, land, the sky, the underworld, etc.) freely accessible
(transitive) to open (a path), to make traversable
(transitive) to spread wide, to open (oneโ€™s hands, arms, etc.)
(transitive) to open (oneโ€™s eyes, nose, mouth, etc.)
(transitive) to stretch (oneโ€™s legs) out for walking .

p โ†’ k / g / x / f .

pwnt ๐“ˆ‰
( ๐“Šช ๐“ƒน ๐“ ๐“ˆ‰ ) = kfrt ( Koofurta / koonfurta ) .
koofur ( -ta ) / koonfur ( -ta ) : south .
Koofurta / koonfurta : the south .

pwnt ๐“ˆ‰ ( ๐“Šช ๐“ƒน ๐“ ๐“ˆ‰ ) = xfnt ( Xaafuun + ta = Xaafuunta )
or gfnt ๐“ˆ‰ ( Gaafuun + ta = Gaafuunta ) .
Xaafuun
is a town in the northeastern Bari province of Somalia. Situated in Ras Hafun on the coast of the Guardafui Channel, it is the centre of the Hafun District, and the easternmost town in continental Africa .
Archaeological evidence has linked Opone to the modern city of Hafun ( Xaafuun ) .

pwnt ๐“ˆ‰
( ๐“Šช ๐“ƒน ๐“ ๐“ˆ‰ ) = gbnt ( Guban + ta = Gubanta ) .
The Guban Plain ( Gubanta ) runs parallel to the Gulf of Aden from Djibouti to Cape Guardafui ( raas caseyr ) all the away to Ras Hafun in the far east of the Somali state of Puntland .

pwnt ๐“ˆ‰ ( ๐“Šช ๐“ƒน ๐“ ๐“ˆ‰ ) = gcnt ( gacan + ta = gacanta ) / Gacanka ( The Gulf of Aden ) .
 
It's kind of weird to think that if the Egyptian speakers hadn't encroached upon and usurped the prior EC speakers, an East Cushitic language would have been among the earliest two recorded languages in Human history alongside Sumerian.
Was thinking about this some more. You are absolutely correct but what is ironic to me is that both languages and their entire branch are extinct for a long time now along with their respective cultures while we are here thousands of years later. It seems like the same civilization that they built and the resultant written language started them down a path that ultimately made them more susceptible to โ€˜extinctionโ€™ in a sense, although they probably would not have known this. Meanwhile, our ancestors, being more nomadic and in the exact same area early on, were much more flexible and adaptable and here we are today. Basically, if East Cushitic were to be among the earliest recorded languages, it would probably have meant going down a path where we are not here today.
 
Was thinking about this some more. You are absolutely correct but what is ironic to me is that both languages and their entire branch are extinct for a long time now along with their respective cultures while we are here thousands of years later. It seems like the same civilization that they built and the resultant written language started them down a path that ultimately made them more susceptible to โ€˜extinctionโ€™ in a sense, although they probably would not have known this. Meanwhile, our ancestors, being more nomadic and in the exact same area early on, were much more flexible and adaptable and here we are today. Basically, if East Cushitic were to be among the earliest recorded languages, it would probably have meant going down a path where we are not here today.
I used to think it was hotepry when people tried to make a connection between anicnet eygptian and somali. But know I think there's probably a huge amount of insight to be gained from doing compartive historical lingustics between somali and ancient eygptian.
 
I used to think it was hotepry when people tried to make a connection between anicnet eygptian and somali. But know I think there's probably a huge amount of insight to be gained from doing compartive historical lingustics between somali and ancient eygptian.
Absolutely. The problem is because Somali and all Cushitic languages werenโ€™t really written systematically until very recently, and because Somalia and the entire horn region has been in utter chaos for decades, linguists probably havenโ€™t been able to compare the languages. That, along with their inherent biases. I personally through looking at this stuff actually believe the two languages are very close to each other, closer than the other Afro-asiatic languages are. The further you go back in time through the Egyptian language the more is looks Somali and East Cushitic in general. Look at the below as an example. The re-constructed Egyptian word for teach was literally โ€˜sobarโ€™. You canโ€™t make this stuff up:
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Absolutely. The problem is because Somali and all Cushitic languages werenโ€™t really written systematically until very recently, and because Somalia and the entire horn region has been in utter chaos for decades, linguists probably havenโ€™t been able to compare the languages. That, along with their inherent biases. I personally through looking at this stuff actually believe the two languages are very close to each other, closer than the other Afro-asiatic languages are. The further you go back in time through the Egyptian language the more is looks Somali and East Cushitic in general. Look at the below as an example. The re-constructed Egyptian word for teach was literally โ€˜sobarโ€™. You canโ€™t make this stuff up:
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What the hell that's crazy. It's kind of insane that these cadaan somali lingustis never seem to have looked into this.

I wonder if we could learn about anicnet somali or east cushtic relegion through the study of anicnet eygptian texts. Particularly the stuff from the early dynastic period like the coffin texts. Especially if the early dynastic elite descended from eastern cushitic speakers.
 
What the hell that's crazy. It's kind of insane that these cadaan somali lingustis never seem to have looked into this.

I wonder if we could learn about anicnet somali or east cushtic relegion through the study of anicnet eygptian texts. Particularly the stuff from the early dynastic period like the coffin texts. Especially if the early dynastic elite descended from eastern cushitic speakers.
I think we can definitely learn more about the Somali language through this similar to how the Quran was used to bring a lot of Hebrew back to life because of their shared Semitic ancestry. I think part of the problem is Egyptology and the Egyptian language being basically dead. Probably not a lot of linguists studying it as a result. Hopefully ai will help change this especially as it gets better over time. I am unsure of the Cushitic absorption theory as well. The fact that Cushitic speakers were right next door to them and that Egypt was unified by Upper Egyptians tells me you may be correct in that the early dynastic elite may have been Eastern Cushitic speakers or descended from them. If you look at the red crown of upper Egypt and the white crown of lower Egypt it may have some ethnic/racial symbolism.
 
I think we can definitely learn more about the Somali language through this similar to how the Quran was used to bring a lot of Hebrew back to life because of their shared Semitic ancestry. I think part of the problem is Egyptology and the Egyptian language being basically dead. Probably not a lot of linguists studying it as a result. Hopefully ai will help change this especially as it gets better over time. I am unsure of the Cushitic absorption theory as well. The fact that Cushitic speakers were right next door to them and that Egypt was unified by Upper Egyptians tells me you may be correct in that the early dynastic elite may have been Eastern Cushitic speakers or descended from them. If you look at the red crown of upper Egypt and the white crown of lower Egypt it may have some ethnic/racial symbolism.
Damn i never thought about the red race thing. But isn't the red crown for lower eygpt?
 
It's a shame that dna wouldn't easily confirm this since it seems that even as far back as the old kingdom the majority of the pouplation were already mainly levantine. We'd probably need some predynastic dna.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ancient DNA from an Old Kingdom Egypt skeleton from Nuerat 2,868-2,492 BC shows around 90% the ancestry of Ancient Egyptians is from a Levantine population (likely farming migration) with 10% admixture from local east Africans (mota).<br>Comparing Old Kingdom ancestry to ancestry inโ€ฆ <a href="https://t.co/mc2WtOt9H3">pic.twitter.com/mc2WtOt9H3</a></p>&mdash; LiorLefineder (@lefineder) <a href="">February 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
It's a shame that dna wouldn't easily confirm this since it seems that even as far back as the old kingdom the majority of the pouplation were already mainly levantine. We'd probably need some predynastic dna.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ancient DNA from an Old Kingdom Egypt skeleton from Nuerat 2,868-2,492 BC shows around 90% the ancestry of Ancient Egyptians is from a Levantine population (likely farming migration) with 10% admixture from local east Africans (mota).<br>Comparing Old Kingdom ancestry to ancestry inโ€ฆ <a href="https://t.co/mc2WtOt9H3">pic.twitter.com/mc2WtOt9H3</a></p>&mdash; LiorLefineder (@lefineder) <a href="">February 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I suspect this changes as you move further south toward upper Egypt and nubia
 

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