Saudi Arabian Bedouin from the Mutair tribe on the E-V32

[Maakhri2024]

What do DNA enthusiasts / experts think about the result below?

Marwan (@PhilistiaForeva) / X
For the first time I have come across a sample with a pure Arab Bedouin profile below the E-M78 lineage:
- Specifically branch E-V32.
- The ancient Arabian peninsula component : 99%
- Natufian component: 78%.
- The closest contemporaries: the Arabs of Al-Jawf in Yemen and the Rashaida in Sudan.
- Closest remains: Socotra remains.
- Sample owner: Badawi Mutairi from Najd (بدوي مطيري من نجد)

لأول مرة تمر معي عينة ب بروفايل بدوي عربي قح أسفل السلالة
E-M78:
-تحديدا الفرع
E-V32 .

 

[Arabsiyawi]

What do DNA enthusiasts / experts think about the result below?

Marwan (@PhilistiaForeva) / X
For the first time I have come across a sample with a pure Arab Bedouin profile below the E-M78 lineage:
- Specifically branch E-V32.
- The ancient Arabian peninsula component : 99%
- Natufian component: 78%.
- The closest contemporaries: the Arabs of Al-Jawf in Yemen and the Rashaida in Sudan.
- Closest remains: Socotra remains.
- Sample owner: Badawi Mutairi from Najd (بدوي مطيري من نجد)

لأول مرة تمر معي عينة ب بروفايل بدوي عربي قح أسفل السلالة
E-M78:
-تحديدا الفرع
E-V32 .

E-V32 is a 9k years old lineage from Northern Africa. There’s nothing surprising in seeing people from nearby regions get it here and there.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Probably arrived with the Arab migrations from the Southern Levant. It seems like some branches of E-V32 has been in the Southern Levant for a really long time.

 

[The alchemist]

The 78% Natufian is sourced from several related ancestries with probably not high real Natufian DNA. Neolithic and Bronze Age Levant is the bulk of such ancestry. Then you have a ~21% Iran Neolithic component (most Arabians have that range), with the rest being Anatolian Neolithic.
Those distances seem a bit high.

 

[Step a side]

The 78% Natufian is sourced from several related ancestries with probably not high real Natufian DNA. Neolithic and Bronze Age Levant is the bulk of such ancestry. Then you have a ~21% Iran Neolithic component (most Arabians have that range), with the rest being Anatolian Neolithic.
Those distances seem a bit high.

Just realised they are missing Anatolian Neolithic which is usually in the 10-15% range. It’s all hidden in his Natufian.

 

[The alchemist]

Just realised they are missing Anatolian Neolithic which is usually in the 10-15% range. It’s all hidden in his Natufian.

Those results make no sense because the model is bad. If OP has the cords, it's easily testable.

The distance shows he has substructure or regionalization. Perhaps higher Anatolian related ancestry. Y-Jawf and Y-Jew are not the most Natufian heavy sample, for example, so 78% is left field. You can't at one time be closest to Jawf and have higher than normal Natufian. These are not reconcilable

 

[Juke]

This guy (https://x.com/Masstroo2) subclade is under an Agew/Habesha branch, E-Y193388, he's definitely of Cushitic African origin.

Btw the Akkadian larping Iraqi who is the leader of this 'E-V32 is actually Arab' movement is full of it.

He lies and contrives narratives so naturally.


Apparently this years old scientific Luo sample from Lake Victoria is actually a mixed Swahili from the coast , all because he can't accept his African origins.

Btw this Iraqi dude (E-FT56919) shares a 2800 year old subclade with a Kulubnarti sample under E-BY7923. He's likely of Kushite Nubian origin. If Taharqa and Piye fell into his subclade I bet he'd say they're actually Akkadians kkkk.

Inshallah more E-V32 Sudanese test, I know his ensuing heart attack is gonna register on the Richter scale

 

[Garaad Awal]

The Saudi guys clade isn’t Habesha. Seems like a separate branch that split in Egypt’s Red Sea Hills and went into to the Southern Levant

 

[Juke]

The Saudi guys clade isn’t Habesha. Seems like a separate branch that split in Egypt’s Red Sea Hills and went into to the Southern Levant

All the african samples in that clade are Tigre, Tigrinya and Jewish Agew.

E-Y193388 YTree

www.yfull.com

The Jewish Agew, ERS2065757, is the most basal of all. The Sudanese sample YF071868 with Arabic, is actually a Tigre from the Marya tribe, and the Saudi sample beside it shares a tmrca of only 300 years with the Tigre, meaning he's also of relatively recent post-medieval African origin too. That makes 2/3 of the upstream branches Agew and Tigre. The remaining branch, E-Y17749, has a few Tigrinya samples in the branch.