SERIOUS ONLY SOMALI WOMEN

[sagegreen]

There are rules and regulations when it comes to slaves. Whatever libyans and khawarij do that is something that goes against Islamic values. They also organ harvest. So to bring these two groups when we talking about slavery and Islam is ridiculous.

Read better. I said that they were using these ayatun to defend their actions. So slavery sex is still happening in the name of islam.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

Age numbes matter since both boys and girls need to be mature body and mind and i dont follow Western value and it is not Western value to see 10 or 9 as child whether boys or girls
I think u you and ppl think like you are making your own things

none of the points you made make sense

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

Read better. I said that they were using these ayatun to defend their actions. So slavery sex is still happening in the name of islam.

I dont even want to ask what your points is, you have some major doubts cause you subscribe to western ethics and morality that formed between 1960s to present.

 

[adventurequestworlds1.0.2]

none of the points you made make sense

So does your point

 

[World]

First of all slaves are acquired in war not raids, secondly the same ruling that applies married women also applies to slave girls. So yes a man can force his slave girl to have intercourse unless harm occurs. There are no such thing as marital rape in Islam, so the only time it becomes haram is when harm occurs. Harm is prohibited in Islam.

Watch the video of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Uthaymeen

It’s very telling of who you are as a person when you regard someone like this as a reputable source on Islam and share his views :

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

It’s very telling of who you are as a person when you regard someone like this as a reputable source on Islam and share his views :

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I was referring to the video, not the account or the thread. I wrote "Watch the video of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Uthaymeen" and shaykh Muhammad Ibn Uthaymeen is one of the greatest contemporary scholar along Shaykh Ibn Baz, Shayk Albani, Shaykh Fawzan, Shaykh Muqbil Ibn Hadi, Shaykh Rabee Al Madkhali. They are the senior scholars and definitely individuals that should be referrenced and used as sources. I only wanted to share the video and not the thread

here is another excellent article

Marital rape and domestic violence in Islamic law

www.abuaminaelias.com

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

So does your point

Broh read the ahadith Aisha stated that she betrothed Muhammad Sallahu Alayhi wa sallam at six and consumated the marriage at 9. You play too much adventure quest world

 

[World]

I was referring to the video, not the account or the thread. I wrote "Watch the video of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Uthaymeen" and shaykh Muhammad Ibn Uthaymeen is one of the greatest contemporary scholar along Shaykh Ibn Baz, Shayk Albani, Shaykh Fawzan, Shaykh Muqbil Ibn Hadi, Shaykh Rabee Al Madkhali. They are the senior scholars and definitely individuals that should be referrenced and used as sources. I only wanted to share the video and not the thread

here is another excellent article

Marital rape and domestic violence in Islamic law

www.abuaminaelias.com

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[knali]

It’s very telling of who you are as a person when you regard someone like this as a reputable source on Islam and share his views :

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looooool im confused not west of ethiopia or south mauritania how does that work. unless you consider mauritania a north african country

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

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and there is no contradiction with the video I cited and what I said that is a married woman or a slave girl can be coerced to have intercourse unless harm occurs. I still have no idea what misogeny is and how can you sexually abuse a wife who Allah made halal to have intercourse with, same with a slave girl who is your property. A married woman can be pressured or forced without harm. I could say to my wife if you dont do it I will divorce and if she truly wants me she will do it as for the slave, harming her will make it obligatory for me to emancipate her but again psychological pressure can be done. Just like a child can be forced to take their medicine.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

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another thing is, the western definition of rape is to force any woman including someone wife to have intercourse as for the definition of rape in Islam it is to forcefully fornicate with a female you are not married to. Marital rape doesnt exist in Islam as the excellent articles states here

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The concept of rape in marriage is a new problem confronting Muslims in modern times. The term “rape” (ightiṣāb) in the classical legal literature was applied only to forced sexual relations outside of the marriage contract. Rape in this sense has always been unlawful and prosecuted in the legal category of adultery based upon the Prophet’s practice and a firm legal consensus.


The original term ightiṣāb linguistically means to take something forcefully without having a right to it in the first place. Since a man has the right to have sexual relations with this wife as granted by the marriage contract, he is not taking something for which he inherently has no right. Consent was a moral requirement, but had no legal ramifications. Hence, the ruling of adultery does not apply to the husband in this case."

 

[World]

and there is no contradiction with the video I cited and what I said that is a married woman or a slave girl can be coerced to have intercourse unless harm occurs. I still have no idea what misogeny is and how can you sexually abuse a wife who Allah made halal to have intercourse with, same with a slave girl who is your property. A married woman can be pressured or forced without harm. I could say to my wife if you dont do it I will divorce and if she truly wants me she will do it as for the slave, harming her will make it obligatory for me to emancipate her but again psychological pressure can be done. Just like a child can be forced to take their medicine.

what’s so hard to understand? your wife says no you can’t grab her by her neck, throw her on the bed, tie her hands up, rip her clothes open and enter her. if you do that you are an animal and i would kill you if you were married to my sister. Your own sources disprove what you are saying, and that you are a domestic abuser if you do that, but it wasn’t about islam to you.

 

[JaredAbdullahiKushner2000]

what’s so hard to understand? your wife says no you can’t throw her on the bed tie her hands up rip her clothes open and enter her. if you do that you are an animal and i would kill you if you were married to my sister.

that sounds like harm well if that occurs then it is haram. Stop being emotional waah waah, Islam isnt based on emotions, you take my life, you have to pay blood money or your life will be taken too based on what my family decides.

 

[Kalsoon]

Instead of asking people on Somalispot, go to your local Mosque and ask the Imam there. If you had a medical condition you were worried or ignorant about would you ask Somalispot or your doctor?

I’m getting the sense that seeking accurate knowledge isn’t the end goal for this and similar posts.

 

[sagegreen]

I dont even want to ask what your points is, you have some major doubts cause you subscribe to western ethics and morality that formed between 1960s to present.

Blablabla nobody cares about your opinion dumb ass