Sheikh Umul attacks Reer Muqdisho

[Kane]

I have the greatest respect for Sheik Umul and his on the family’s speed dial, but as someone born in xamar, without a shadow of a doubt I believe Xamar belongs to Abgaal.

The kacaan communism ideology is dead, Everyone invest in your own regions and stop claiming other peoples lands and we shall find an everlasting peace insha Allah.

#kismaayo unukaa leh!!!

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

The Mentally Enslaved UK wahabi hordes are chimping again Wahabism was created by sand dwelling House N*gger Called Mohamed Bin wahab who polished the cocks of his British masters to fight against the Ottoman Sufis who ruled his land with an iron fist the hatred wahabis have for Sufis stems that mentally Cucked Filthy House n*ggerView attachment 336898

The british and French helped the Ottoman destroy the first Saudi, idiot.

 

[Galool]

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

I don't know much about sheikh xidig. But one of the signs of a very righteous scholar in islam that is universally acknowledged. Is that huge numbers of people come to their funeral. Look at how mnay tens of thousands came to sheikh xidigs funeral. Second qasidah burdah is one of the most famous islamic poems. The fact that people have been reciting it for several centuries all over the world is a sign of its barakah.

That is not true at all. Numbers have never been a sign of righteousness.

We have a whole ayah talking about majority will mislead you

And if you obey most of those on the earth, they will mislead you far away from Allâh’s Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie.
6:116

[Dâwûd (David)] said (immediately without listening to the opponent): "He has wronged you in demanding your ewe in addition to his ewes. And, verily, many partners oppress one another, except those who believe and do righteous good deeds, and they are few." And Dâwûd (David) guessed that We have tried him and he sought Forgiveness of his Lord, and he fell down prostrate and turned (to Allâh) in repentance.
38:24

And He says: But most of mankind doesn’t know. [Surah Al-A’raaf, ayah 187]

And He says: And most of them We found to be not true to their covenant, but most of them We found indeed to be evil sinners. [Surah Al-A’raaf, ayah 102]

And its not minority either we should follow. We should follow the truth based upon evidence from the quran, sunnah and the manhaj of the salaf.

 

[Bahal]

Do these sheikhs ever speak of the rampant corruption in every facet of life in Somalia? Do they ever speak about the murder, theft, rape, displacement etc. that has become a normal part of life?

I'm genuinely curious, I'm not very familiar with Somali clerics if I'm totally being honest.

 

[reer]

Do these sheikhs ever speak of the rampant corruption in every facet of life in Somalia? Do they ever speak about the murder, theft, rape, displacement etc. that has become a normal part of life?

I'm genuinely curious, I'm not very familiar with Somali clerics if I'm totally being honest.

somali salafism may have a touch of qabyaalad. e.g the likes of hassan dahir aweys.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

At least they don't blow up themselves

Muslims dont blow themselves up, the fact that youre reasoning is pointing in this directions shows a lot of about not only your lack of knowledge, but your shear hate and hysteria surrounding islam. Islam as a whole. I bet you like sufis cause of their dance and the medias potryal as them being a lighter brand. lol

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

Lmao he a gaal so why does he care

Thats the point, look at his goal. The goal to degrade everything islam.

 

[Galool]

 

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So called sheikh turned into FKD artist Unukuh leh kulaha

I remember the time I had a fight with his son, the son started it when we were about to fight some somali moms tried to stop it and said that it was all my fault, I said how u weren't even here, they said the kid is shiekh umul son he does no wrong how dare you accuse him of starting the fight

 

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Suufis come out in huge crowds to visit Sheikh Ashcariya

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[AraragiKoyomi]

I have the greatest respect for Sheik Umul and his on the family’s speed dial, but as someone born in xamar, without a shadow of a doubt I believe Xamar belongs to Abgaal.

The kacaan communism ideology is dead, Everyone invest in your own regions and stop claiming other peoples lands and we shall find an everlasting peace insha Allah.

#kismaayo unukaa leh!!!

I dont understand the idea of my qabil own this city. Are you saying that as a HG, i cant buy land in areas supposedly owned by another qabil, are you saying I cant buy, develop and open business in that area?

If I can, the idea that a qabil owns a city of a land, doesnt make sense.

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

Do these sheikhs ever speak of the rampant corruption in every facet of life in Somalia? Do they ever speak about the murder, theft, rape, displacement etc. that has become a normal part of life?

I'm genuinely curious, I'm not very familiar with Somali clerics if I'm totally being honest.

Scholars do, without a doubt, lakiinse a minority will take their advice, a majority will not. This is because we dont have institutions that can punish these people. Also our prisons are overcrowded and holds more than the maximum capacity. This why we hear about jailbreaks.

We need strong institutions, we need a police force, we also need monitoring of content on the internet who are spreading evil. The government doesnt have that ability

 

[Kane]

I dont understand the idea of my qabil own this city. Are you saying that as a HG, i cant buy land in areas supposedly owned by another qabil, are you saying I cant buy, develop and open business in that area?

If I can, the idea that a qabil owns a city of a land, doesnt make sense.

Listen before Somaliweyn became a protectorate of the western powers, every clan had their own kingdom like the Arabs have with their tribes today.

Where each rules a region and together the regions come under a single ruler, that’s what we need to go back to if we want peace.

You can buy land own a business, buy property where ever you want, as long as you don’t go around challenging the natives who have lived, bled and died for the land centuries before you. That’s it !!

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

Their most relied upon and important texts justifying takfir comes from books written by the followers of Muhammad Abdulwahab. You have probably never heard of these books as most modern Salafis scholars don’t teach those books. They’re also the only Somali group who went and actively destroyed shrines belonging to Sufis. I would even go as far saying Shabab are perhaps less extreme in their takfir in some areas in comparison to the 18-19th century movement emerging from Saudi Arabia.

Blaming sufis for their rise is just historical revisionism.

Nope, Al Shabaab teaches fi zilal al quraan that is a book with takfir written by the Sufi Ashari Sayyid Qutb.

 

[Riftvalley]

Nope, Al Shabaab teaches fi zilal al quraan that is a book with takfir written by the Sufi Ashari Sayyid Qutb.

He’s an influence, yes, but some of the books written by the followers of imam Mohamed abdulwahab are more important to them profound in their justification of Takfir.

Those books along with ibn taymiyyah and ibn Kathirs Takfir of tartar largely form their understanding relating to the issue of “muwalat with kufffar”.

What you have to understand is that salafism in Somalia was largely a peaceful movement. While they theoretically made takfir on most of the Sufi groups, it was impossible to practically do what the movement did in Saudi Arabia from the beginning and the height of the Najd Dawa.


Shabab largely exists because of an unresolved takfir issue relating to wars in the Saudi Arabia in the past. These were namely the Takfir of Ottomans and anyone helping the ottomans +tribes or folks helping Sufis against their movement or denying their “kufr.

It’s funny you dismiss my comments but probably don’t even know the books I am referring to?

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

He’s an influence, yes, but some of the books written by the followers of imam Mohamed abdulwahab are more important to them profound in their justification of Takfir.

Those books along with ibn taymiyyah and ibn Kathirs Takfir of tartar largely form their understanding relating to the issue of “muwalat with kufffar”.

What you have to understand is that salafism in Somalia was largely a peaceful movement. While they theoretically made takfir on most of the Sufi groups, it was impossible to practically do what the movement did in Saudi Arabia from the beginning and the height of the Najd Dawa.


Shabab largely exists because of an unresolved takfir issue relating to wars in the Saudi Arabia in the past. These were namely the Takfir of Ottomans and anyone helping the ottomans +tribes or folks helping Sufis against their movement or denying their “kufr.

It’s funny you dismiss my comments but probably don’t even know the books I am referring to?

What takfir? Give me a passage with sources. He discusses tawheed, I dont think Al Shabaab understand tawheed and I dont think they are fighting the government because of Tawheed. You are talking nonsense

 

[Abaq]

I will never respect a person who is spreading shirk in our country. This Xidig guy wrote a book defending Qisada al Burah, a poem with shirk in it. Here is a passage.

" O noblest of creation, I have no one but you to turn to except you when major calamity strikes."
Noblest of creation is referring to Prophet Muhammad peace upon him

"This world and the Hereafter are part of what you control, and part of your knowledge is the knowledge of al-Lawh al-Mahfooz and the Pen"

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This isnt just shirk, its kufr.

That verse refers to the day of judgement when the people will go to all the prophets and ask them to do intercede for them and they will all refuse until they finally turn to the prophet pbuh and he intercedes for all of mankind. It is a reference to a famous hadith.

As for the prophet having some knowledge of the unseen, then that is directly from the Quran Kareem. Allah says:
عَـٰلِمُ ٱلْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِۦٓ أَحَدًا
إِلَّا مَنِ ٱرْتَضَىٰ مِن رَّسُولٍۢ
He is the˺ Knower of the unseen, disclosing none of it to anyone,
except messengers of His choice.

In summary, there is no shirk in the blessed Burdah poem of Imam al Busayri may Allah have mercy on him. It is a shining light of devotion and widely read by Muslims all over the world to praise our Prophet.

If anyone understands Arabic, they can listen to this short clip that refutes these doubts. They can also read the Arabic explanations of this poem:

 

[reer]

@Thegoodshepherd @Riftvalley in older salafi books youll see shocking mass takfir and mass tabdiic. groups like AQ are actually quite soft compared to them. for examples in one of their books they declared majority of people of dubai and abu dhabi as jahmis.

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

That verse refers to the day of judgement when the people will go to all the prophets and ask them to do intercede for them and they will all refuse until they finally turn to the prophet pbuh and he intercedes for all of mankind. It is a reference to a famous hadith.

As for the prophet having some knowledge of the unseen, then that is directly from the Quran Kareem. Allah says:
عَـٰلِمُ ٱلْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِۦٓ أَحَدًا
إِلَّا مَنِ ٱرْتَضَىٰ مِن رَّسُولٍۢ
He is the˺ Knower of the unseen, disclosing none of it to anyone,
except messengers of His choice.

In summary, there is no shirk in the blessed Burdah poem of Imam al Busayri may Allah have mercy on him. It is a shining light of devotion and widely read by Muslims all over the world to praise our Prophet.

If anyone understands Arabic, they can listen to this short clip that refutes these doubts. They can also read the Arabic explanations of this poem:

This is what the esteemed scholar Shaykh Uthaymeen has to say about this. Its clear watching this tape, that Qasida Al Burdah is clear cut kufr. We arent talking about minor shirk, its major shirk that will take you out of Islam. This is insane, how can sufis spread such kufr in our lands.