Shiekh puts an immodest sudanese woman in her place

[Halimak]

Whos making stuff up you just didn't understand my point.

In certain areas lol ? no this encompasses everything if you claim harassment you need another female witness.

Im talking in a general sense you would claim harassment if a man tried chatting to you yet you would be dressed in a seductive manner, furthermore you would probably be looking at him with diluted pupils wheres the logic.

Another instance free-mixing with men whether its career or education is not allowed but you women would happlily talk to your "colleague or fellow student" then when he moves to you, you will be baffled even though you seduced with your voice or your clothes or whatever

Women are awrah

Why do you women act like you don't have desires and you don't instigate?

Loool you lied. Also, you did make stuff up. You said the reasoning why the testimony of two women is equal to that of one man is due to women putting themselves in bad situations. You are making up reasons, hence you are lying about the deen and twisting.

The testimony of one women are accepted when it comes to Issues pretaining women, islamic matters such as sighting of the moon ect. So in some cases it is.

Also, going by your logic, does that mean that if someone stole my phone I need the the testimony of another woman to confirm that my phone was stolen?

Free-mixing is haraam for both men and women, also, a man chatting you up is not harassment. Talk like a grown man instead of going on about what YOU think i 'probably' consider harassment.

Your whole post is basically a way for you justify men harassing and abusing women. I know men like you. You probably try to justify rape.

 

[Halimak]

@Halimak Men and women will never be equal, it is why there is no female Prophet, equality, that is a Western myth here is a Sahih hadith which explains this very fact. I wonder how you will reject this one which is very clear.

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301

What has that got to do with the topic? We are talking about harassment, but you are using random hadith to justify men harassing women and then saying it is a woman's fault?

We are not talking about whether or not men and women are equal, that is not the conversation.

You're more despicable than I thought.

 

[Halimak]

@Dawo @KobeBryant watch her try to wiggle way het way out of that hadith its tough being a feminist Muslima it is an oxymoron

What does that have to do with the topic though?

We are talking about men harassing women? You really thought you did something didn't you?

You're very dumb. Also, i'm not a feminist.

@Dawo And you are so desperate that you are tugging at straws, going off topic and coming up with arguments that have nothing to do with the original point.

 

[AishaBarri]

So the problem is getting attention from dudes below your standard huh

If you put it that way

 

[TekNiKo]

What does that have to do with the topic though?

We are talking about men harassing women? You really thought you did something didn't you?

You're very dumb. Also, i'm not a feminist.

@Dawo And you are so desperate that you are tugging at straws, going off topic and coming up with arguments that have nothing to do with the original point.

You said 2 witnesses required of women is due to another reason other than their lack of intelligence. The hadith clearly states women are nusqaan or deficient in intelligence and need another witness.

 

[TekNiKo]

Anyways why am I even arguing with a nusqaan caqli creature who menstruates and cant pray I am outta here bye.

 

[Halimak]

You said 2 witnesses required of women is due to another reason other than their lack of intelligence. The hadith clearly states women are nusqaan or deficient in intelligence.

Dawo said that reasoning is due to women putting themselves in bad situations and no scholar has ever said that. He lied to twist it.

Furthermore:


Some authors have mistranslated nuqsan by using derogatory terms like ‘deficient in intelligence,’ or ‘lacking common sense.’ This rendition is inappropriate because the word in this context means a ‘reduction,’ as it is used in the Quran:

أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا أَنَّا نَأْتِي الْأَرْضَ نَنقُصُهَا مِنْ أَطْرَافِهَا

Have they not seen that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders?

Surat al-R’ad 13:41

And again:

أَفَلَا يَرَوْنَ أَنَّا نَأْتِي الْأَرْضَ نَنقُصُهَا مِنْ أَطْرَافِهَا

Then do they not see that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders?

Surat al-Anbiya 21:44

The reduction for women is a manifestation of Islam’s leniency towards women, by not burdening them with the same obligations as men while they have their own particular duties and concerns.

In the case of testimony, women in early Islam did not customarily involve themselves in business contracts, debts, and other matters. They were usually doing other important work, caring for their children and elderly parents, and so on. As a result, the verse was revealed to lessen a woman’s obligation to testify in such matters.

 

[Halimak]

Anyways why am I even arguing with a nusqaan caqli creature who menstruates and cant pray I am outta here bye.

That is what I mean, when I say that men like you use Islam as a way to be sexist. Actually read the scholarly context that I posted and fear Allah.

 

[المهندس]

Loool you lied. Also, you did make stuff up. You said the reasoning why the testimony of two women is equal to that of one man is due to women putting themselves in bad situations. You are making up reasons, hence you are lying about the deen and twisting.

The testimony of one women are accepted when it comes to Issues pretaining women, islamic matters such as sighting of the moon ect. So in some cases it is.

Also, going by your logic, does that mean that if someone stole my phone I need the the testimony of another woman to confirm that my phone was stolen?

Free-mixing is haraam for both men and women, also, a man chatting you up is not harassment. Talk like a grown man instead of going on about what YOU think i 'probably' consider harassment.

Your whole post is basically a way for you justify men harassing and abusing women. I know men like you. You probably try to justify rape.

Oh so this is what you are getting so worked up about .

This is what i said


"There is a reason why the testimony of two women is equal to one man in islam you women tend to put yourselves in bad situation and blame others."

You claim i said this


"You said the reasoning why the testimony of two women is equal to that of one man is due to women putting themselves in bad situations."


I said " there is a reason why" i didn't say " the reason why ".

There is a difference.

 

[Juke]

If you put it that way

Unironically girls would make fun of nerds talking to them meanwhile over good looking a-holes.

 

[TekNiKo]

Dawo said that reasoning is due to women putting themselves in bad situations and no scholar has ever said that. He lied to twist it.

Furthermore:


Some authors have mistranslated nuqsan by using derogatory terms like ‘deficient in intelligence,’ or ‘lacking common sense.’ This rendition is inappropriate because the word in this context means a ‘reduction,’ as it is used in the Quran:

أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا أَنَّا نَأْتِي الْأَرْضَ نَنقُصُهَا مِنْ أَطْرَافِهَا

Have they not seen that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders?

Surat al-R’ad 13:41

And again:

أَفَلَا يَرَوْنَ أَنَّا نَأْتِي الْأَرْضَ نَنقُصُهَا مِنْ أَطْرَافِهَا

Then do they not see that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders?

Surat al-Anbiya 21:44

The reduction for women is a manifestation of Islam’s leniency towards women, by not burdening them with the same obligations as men while they have their own particular duties and concerns.

In the case of testimony, women in early Islam did not customarily involve themselves in business contracts, debts, and other matters. They were usually doing other important work, caring for their children and elderly parents, and so on. As a result, the verse was revealed to lessen a woman’s obligation to testify in such matters.

Now your using semantics, reduced, deficient whats the difference?

Fear Allah kulaha so why isnt there female Prophet? Reduce women's burdens leniency basically they cant handle the burden.

Alx Allah made me a man.

 

[TekNiKo]

Anyways im outta here last post wallahi, may Allah give me a son.

 

[Halimak]

Anyways im outta here last post wallahi, may Allah give me a son.

May Allah give you 4 daughters back to back.

 

[TekNiKo]

May Allah give you 6 daughters back to back.

Dont curse me, ina lilaahi I would divorce if i dont get son after 3rd try

 

[Halimak]

Dont curse me, ina lilaahi I would divorce if i dont get son after 3rd try

Gender is determined by the man.

So technically, your wife should be one blaming you.

Nevertheless may Allah bless you with 4 daughters.

 

[AishaBarri]

Unironically girls would make fun of nerds talking to them meanwhile over good looking a-holes.

Depends on the person. Good looking assholes are boring and don’t add that much value to anyone’s life tbh

 

[TekNiKo]

Gender is determined by the man.

So your technically, your wife should be one blaming you.

Nevertheless may Allah bless you with 4 daughters.

Daughter is not my preference she will get married to another man and not continue your lineage. If she messes around your reputation as a father will be tarnished forever. She will be loyal to her husband more than father. Ilaahi ha igu kalifin.

 

[Juke]

Depends on the person. Good looking assholes are boring and don’t add that much value to anyone’s life tbh

Abaayo is boring really the right word

 

[المهندس]

@Halimak i think you need to do yourself a favour and log off for a few days and clear your head.

 

[Mercury]

Even if a girl is wearing jilbab or burka she will still face sexual harassment the sheekh needs to adress the men who can't control themselves cause thats the problem not the clothing