SHOULD SOMALIA FOLLOW THE GULF STATES MODEL INTERMS OF CITIZENSHIP?

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Somalia should follow maternal based citizenship, so we could get rid of tribalism. Tribalism is like the drug ice and we are the junkies. Isn't it time to be strong and quit this addiction? As my dear friend Larry illuminated above, tribalism has kept alive this wacky notion of citizenship which only bestows lip-service allegiances to the nation. Most Somalis identify with their tribal enclave rather than with the "nation". Isn't it time to get rid of it and find a better notion that can unite us all? If you answer is in the affirmative, maternal citizenship has the solution.
Amen to that!
 
Kids are more likely to turn out like their mothers. If the mother is Somali then she is more likely to drill Somalinimo into her kids. I have seen 1/2 Somali kids from the mothers side and they are more Somali than any of the 1/2 Somali kids who were born to foreign mothers.
If a donkey grazes with horses does that make them a horse?

Fact remains a fact because your moms qabiil will not adopt you into their clan
 

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Matriarchy is for the fatherless. :camby:Don't you know fathers provide prestige from their seed? :childplease: If you want to be Somali fax us your 23andme results. State your line. Pass our interview process. Let us chip you, in case you have any wild ideas like miscegenation we'll deactivate your lower half. :fittytousand: Somali Cushitic Lives Matter. :dabcasar:Only if they have a 1.0 qabil. If you're an SJW, STD-carrier or a human rights sympathizer you'll have to ask the state for permission to procreate. :siilaanyosmile:
 

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FA'CASH GANG BABY
Alien Passports for Non Somalis like Estonia has

Alien passport: A certificate of identity, sometimes called an alien's passport, is a travel document issued by a country to non-citizens (also called aliens) residing within their borders who are stateless persons or otherwise unable to obtain a passport from their state of nationality (also called refugees).

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Or even Travel document only

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felloff

FA'CASH GANG BABY
Even the diaspora shouldn't be given citizenship without being stripped of their current citizenship, a loop hole to this could be an Overseas Citizenship of Somalia Document, based on the indian verison;

Overseas Citizenship of India
(OCI) is a scheme that was introduced in response to demands for dual citizenship by the Indian diaspora, particularly in developed countries. It was introduced by The Citizenship (Amendment) Act, 2005 in August 2005. It was launched during the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas convention at Hyderabad in 2006.

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With blood and Iron will we reach the fatherland
If its citizenship by birth then Bantus, Oromos or anyone will become Somali citizens. Ethiopians shouldn't even be in Somalia forget visa residents or citizenships:farole:
 
Look you have made a good point but have used to disgusting person as an example maya that is.

What we are saying is somali are people from qabils living in all somali lands. Therefor for us to say your somali you would have to belong to a tribe. We don't tell you who to marry and we ask that you dont tell us who who should have a right to a somali passport. Furthermore if we allow half somalis citizenship because their mon is, somebody could make the argument that they are born in somalia and they too should have citizenship. Before you know its free for all.

But then you could argue that anyone who studies qabil can say "I'm habar gidir and my great uncle's cousin was Aideed." Your qabil system can still be bypassed especially if they look somewhat East African.
 
@HollandaiseSauce you need to understand that not every country is like western europe. Its foreign idea to give a non somali a citizenship. Why should we have to conform to ideals that aren't somali. Furthermore why should we change the qabil institution just because a female married out? This is older than you sxb

And the qabil institutions is unfair and it has caused the war. It should be changed because it's actually a byproduct of the war. The war starts, families leave and branch out. Female all alone and need to find some stability so they marry someone. (Not all half somalis are born out of wedlock!) They produce kids and then later get back into contact with Somalis and raise children to be somali.
 
But then you could argue that anyone who studies qabil can say "I'm habar gidir and my great uncle's cousin was Aideed." Your qabil system can still be bypassed especially if they look somewhat East African.
But the thing is if you claim your uncles cousin is aideed, people know all caydiids cousin (his family in this case) so you will be question whose son/daughter are you. And that will lead to you being exposed lol
 
But the thing is if you claim your uncles cousin is aideed, people know all caydiids cousin (his family in this case) so you will be question whose son/daughter are you. And that will lead to you being exposed lol

Of course but that is because he is well known. If you just knew a friends abtiris, you could blag your way into citizenship
 
Of course but that is because he is well known. If you just knew a friends abtiris, you could blag your way into citizenship
Nope untrue if that is true the marginalized clans ( tumaal, madhibaan) would have long time assimilated themselves into other claims by individually claiming clans.

What you don't understand is there is checks and balances in clan system. Everyone is known through family affiliations. For instance my sub sub subclan I know all the family units, i.e. Ilmo hebel which is either by their fathers or grandfathers surname
 
f*ck all somalilanders use Somali passport idiot ,when ever you going China, Malaysia, japan, all arab state they use Somali passport

Somaliland passport is accepted
In those countries idiot!

The names of these countries are :
1- South Africa
2- Ethiopia
3- Djibouti
4- Belgium
5- United Kingdom
6 – France
7- South Sudan
8- Kenya
9- Malaysia
10 – Taiwan
11- Tanzania
12- India
13-UAE
14 -Saudi Arabia


You are a LIAR :mjpls:
 
Somali passport

The new "e-passport" of Somalia was introduced and approved by the nation's Transitional Federal Government on 10 October 2006. It costs $100 USD to apply for Somalis living inside of Somalia, and $150 USD for Somalis living abroad. Somalia is now the first country on the African continent to have introduced the "e-passport".[110]
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Somaliland passport is accepted
In those countries idiot!

The names of these countries are :
1- South Africa
2- Ethiopia
3- Djibouti
4- Belgium
5- United Kingdom
6 – France
7- South Sudan
8- Kenya
9- Malaysia
10 – Taiwan
11- Tanzania
12- India
13-UAE
14 -Saudi Arabia


You are a LIAR :mjpls:
Keep dreaming Iam From Somaliland too,Dilla RR
 
Somaliland passport is accepted
In those countries idiot!

The names of these countries are :
1- South Africa
2- Ethiopia
3- Djibouti
4- Belgium
5- United Kingdom
6 – France
7- South Sudan
8- Kenya
9- Malaysia
10 – Taiwan
11- Tanzania
12- India
13-UAE
14 -Saudi Arabia


You are a LIAR :mjpls:
please do not bring Gays and Christians just for recognition
 
But then you could argue that anyone who studies qabil can say "I'm habar gidir and my great uncle's cousin was Aideed." Your qabil system can still be bypassed especially if they look somewhat East African.


You can not fake, you will be discovered if you don't have any extended family (subclan is made from group of families that are connected to each other)
 
If its citizenship by birth then Bantus, Oromos or anyone will become Somali citizens. Ethiopians shouldn't even be in Somalia forget visa residents or citizenships:farole:

No Ethiopian should even think of applying Somali nationality.
 
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