So, what’s post-recognition, Somalilanders?

[Duubpon]

If SL gets independence on its current ”borders” I fear there will be a full scale war between Isaaqs and Daroods. There is nothing that Isaaqs can offer to entice them to return, not even money.

A sad situation.

Nothing sad about it.

Hartis agreed by their own accord to be part of SL so them backstabbing us is weird.

 

[3LetterzMM]

If SL gets independence on its current ”borders” I fear there will be a full scale war between Isaaqs and Daroods. There is nothing that Isaaqs can offer to entice them to return, not even money.

A sad situation.

All it takes to destroy their dreams of independence is to throw dhulbahante and warsangeli a couple guns and tell them to make sum bodies drop. It’s very simple the only claim they got is that they’re peaceful compared to the south u take that away they have zero claims to secession. Even trump isn’t such a big idiot he’ll grant recognition to a country with the same people language religion and culture. I didn’t even know myself that Somalia was split between British and Italian for a long ass time and I’m Somali no way in hell trump is gonna know that.

 

[Duubpon]

All it takes to destroy their dreams of independence is to throw dhulbahante and warsangeli a couple guns and tell them to make sum bodies drop. It’s very simple the only claim they got is that they’re peaceful compared to the south u take that away they have zero claims to secession. Even trump isn’t such a big idiot he’ll grant recognition to a country with the same people language religion and culture. I didn’t even know myself that Somalia was split between British and Italian for a long ass time and I’m Somali no way in hell trump is gonna know that.

They've already been given guns and look where that got them.

Nothing but Ls since Goojacade.

Tunas in particular got expelled like Yahuud in Ceerigaabo alongside their Dhulo kin when they chimped out.

 

[TheLand]

Membership of the IMF and World bank requires majority vote (50%+1)

US holds most voting power of any country.

IMF:
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World bank:

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I think independent Somaliland can join IMF and World Bank because China alone can't block with just 6% of voting power. I don't think they could form a majority to block it because why would they? Kosovo is a member of IMF and world bank.

Somaliland is currently completely isolated. Recognition will bring the opposite. Thank you listening and if you were not acting in bad faith you might have done a little research before hand.

I don’t get your argument here. Are you trying to say the U.S. alone would be enough to get you in? Aren’t you getting a little ahead of yourself? No part of this administration has ever gone on the record even mentioning your name. You are already getting ready to join the IMF with your begging bowl.

 

[3LetterzMM]

They've already been given guns and look where that got them.

Nothing but Ls since Goojacade.

Tunas in particular got expelled like Yahuud in Ceerigaabo alongside their Dhulo kin when they chimped out.

I’m not talking bout a couple dusty Aks from the 70s I’m talking about funding and up to date weaponry and equipment. They took laascanood right from under ur noses now imagine what’ll happen with the right tools and some motivation.

 

[El Nino]

Nothing sad about it.

Hartis agreed by their own accord to be part of SL so them backstabbing us is weird.

Strongest reason for independence SL tells to the world is the atrocities done by the Kacaan, of which Hartis made a huge part of. They joined to avoid war/revenge killings.

SL is explicitly an Isaaq state. You know it and everyone else knows it, pretending it to be something else is unwise. Hartis leaving your state was natural, they don’t owe anything to you guys.

 

[TheLand]

Thinking critically and questioning what global powers actually want isn't fear mongering.

These guys are offended you would even question anything related to their Isaaqland facade. This kind of emotional instability is why they have never and will never attain emancipation.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I don’t get your argument here. Are you trying to say the U.S. alone would be enough to get you in? Aren’t you getting a little ahead of yourself? No part of this administration has ever gone on the record even mentioning your name. You are already getting ready to join the IMF with your begging bowl.

No that isnt what i'm saying and obviously it's a response so your cheap trolling is not welcome.
Stick to your three other accounts and debate yourself lol.

 

[Zak12]

Well hypothetically SL still wouldn't have a seat in the UN and would still be considered legally apart of Somalia. Best case scenario for them is to be another South Ossetia/Abkhazka. Supported by few countries but rejected by the majority. It wouldn't solve their problems with SSC nor would they have any territorial waters or air space.

 

[TheLand]

No that isnt what i'm saying and obviously it's a response so your cheap trolling is not welcome.
Stick to your three other accounts and debate yourself lol.

Pathetic as usual

 

[Yami]

All it takes to destroy their dreams of independence is to throw dhulbahante and warsangeli a couple guns and tell them to make sum bodies drop. It’s very simple the only claim they got is that they’re peaceful compared to the south u take that away they have zero claims to secession. Even trump isn’t such a big idiot he’ll grant recognition to a country with the same people language religion and culture. I didn’t even know myself that Somalia was split between British and Italian for a long ass time and I’m Somali no way in hell trump is gonna know that.

None of this has anything to do with SLs peace or democratic processes this is about US interest on the gulf of aden you driftwood monkey

 

[Duubpon]

I’m not talking bout a couple dusty Aks from the 70s I’m talking about funding and up to date weaponry and equipment. They took laascanood right from under ur noses now imagine what’ll happen with the right equipment and some motivation.

They took Laascaanood because it's Dhulo territory and horrendous Bihi decisions.

Not to mention FGS needs Ajnabis approval to even equip it's soldiers with cold war era weaponry.

If Hartis ever decided to take Ceerigaabo or any Isaaq city,it would prompt mobilization never seen since the era of SNM.

 

[Yami]

I don’t get your argument here. Are you trying to say the U.S. alone would be enough to get you in? Aren’t you getting a little ahead of yourself? No part of this administration has ever gone on the record even mentioning your name. You are already getting ready to join the IMF with your begging bowl.

The US can get us into the UN. Only thing that could stop that from happening is Chinese or Russian veto but Russia and the US are forging a new alliance and China has only used its veto 16 times mostly regarding sanctions

 

[TheLand]

They took LasCaanood because it's Dhulo territory and horrendous Bihi decisions.

Not to mention FGS needs Ajnabis approval to even equip it's soldiers with cold war era weaponry.

If Hartis ever decided to take Ceerigaabo or any Isaaq city,it would prompt mobilization never seen since the era of SNM.

Silly stuff. All your heavy weapons were lost in Goojacade kid.

 

[TheLand]

The US can get us into the UN. Only thing that could stop that from happening is Chinese or Russian veto but Russia and the US are forging a new alliance and China has only used its veto 16 times mostly regarding sanctions

If China allows you to join it also opens the door to Taiwan…not gonna happen. Don’t let these guys drive you nuts and get your jinnio up Yami. It’s not worth it sxb.

 

[Yami]

Silly stuff. All your heavy weapons were lost in Goojacade kid.

goojacade was an ambush on one guuto and its arsenal. There are close to a hundred guutos in the SL army, we have D30s BM21s and D47s sitting in oog as we speak. Not to mention the heavy artillery we keep in hargeisa under tents in sinai you dont even know the half of it

 

[Duubpon]

Silly stuff. All your heavy weapons were lost in Goojacade kid.

Is that why SSC is incapable of capturing western Sool and Sanaag and is kept at bay by newly-formed militias?

 

[nobutreally]

Whoever the mods are, could you delete this thread? I created it for the sake of discourse, not for mudslinging

 

[Yami]

If China allows you to join it also opens the door to Taiwan…not gonna happen. Don’t let these guys drive you nuts and get your jinnio up Yami. It’s not worth it sxb.

Even hypothetically if china were to veto our recognition, being a US client state with full bilateral ties with them and 10-20 other countries like kosovo is better than our current situation. The fact this is even an argument is astounding

 

[TheLand]

goojacade was an ambush on one guuto and its arsenal. There are close to a hundred guutos in the SL army, we have D30s BM21s and D47s sitting in oog as we speak. Not to mention the heavy artillery we keep in hargeisa under tents in sinai you dont even know the half of it

You lost EVERY single tank. A guy from Qardho was recording and slapping y’all around and asking what tribe you are. Man, what a day