Somali-Bantu ethnicity tag

[Canuck]

There was no Ethiopia 600 years ago

Habashi and Oromo expansion were there and we fought both of them, learn your history

 

[AceofSom]

Lol, there's no way Bantu went from 80,000 to a million in just less than 30 years. This thread is nonsense.

Fearmongering is a typical Somali trait. Its always some other Ethnicity is gonna take our land, when in reality no one really knows or cares about our existence.

 

[Bahal]

Nugaal will be a reservation for ethnic Somalis. The rest of the country will be under the Federal Bantu Administration.

We'll have casinos in remote Somali tuulo where the Bantu come to visit us and observe that strange minority group called Somalis. :siilaanyolaugh:

Do you think the <10,000 pure somalis left by then will still be fighting over qabiil

 

[Apollo]

Do you think the <10,000 pure somalis left by then will still be fighting over qabiil

There are still even 100% pure Khoisan with 0% Bantu or European genes, although extremely rare. And they have been subjugated by the Bantu, Dutch, and Coloureds for 400 years now.

 

[AceofSom]

Habashi and Oromo expansion were there and we fought both of them, learn your history

............Yes.................and 100,000 Habashi and Oromo soldiers will magically appear in Somalia, and we shall all become slaves of them.

 

[Bahal]

There are 100 million destitute landlocked peasants next door sxb, and a million + Bantu with an exploding population.

Where does that leave the idiotic warring Somali clans living in a vastly underpopulated country with the longest coastline in the continent?

You wanna import millions of foreigners but can't even get along with folks that look, speak, eat, worship like you.

 

[Apollo]

Speaking of demographic shifts.... the Gulf Arabian countries are all majority Desis.

I wonder what the hell they'll do with all those Indians and Pakistanis. Naturalize them? Doesn't seem like it.

It's a ticking time bomb. Once the oil runs out it's going to be fun to watch.

 

[Mohamud]

They did a number on those khoisans

 

[AceofSom]

There are 100 million destitute landlocked peasants next door sxb, and a million + Bantu with an exploding population.

Where does that leave the idiotic warring Somali clans living in a vastly underpopulated country with the longest coastline in the continent?

You wanna import millions of foreigners but can't even get along with folks that look, speak, eat, worship like you.

There is little doubt that where migration expands the workforce, aggregate GDP can be expected to grow
https://www.oecd.org/migration/OECD Migration Policy Debates Numero 2.pdf

But with Somalis facts and figures don't really stick with them.

 

[Bahal]

But with Somalis facts and figures don't really stick with them.

War forget Bantus and Ethiopians, integrate Somalia first. We are not a stable country trying to expand our workforce and lower labor costs, we're a literal failed state where our tiny population is already heavily divided.

What makes you thinking adding foreigners and an overnight demographic shift would be a good idea?

 

[Dhabaal]

Lol, there's no way Bantu went from 80,000 to a million in just less than 30 years. This thread is nonsense.

Its true , Bantu's went from a measily population of 80.000 to over 3 million according to recent UN estimates.

Source: http://www.hiiraan.com/pdf_files/2015/UN/N1528750.pdf

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"In a forthcoming academic article it is estimated that the population of Bantu in the Juba Valley is between 851,206 and 1,571,302 or 6.9 percent to 14.9 percent of the national population.

Those account for Bantus only in the Jubba region, not shabelle or the ones living in camps which brings the estimate up to almost 3 million.

 

[Dhabaal]

Somalia is for all Somalis, whether their cushtic, arab, bantu, ethiopian or Alien.

Wallahi if I was president I would have transported willing Syrians, Ethiopians and Rohingyas into Somalia and settled them throughout the country.
After all population is power.

Absolutely BLASPHEMOUS!!

Somalia Soomaali Baa Leh only counts for Ethnic Somalis. No thieving Arab,Habeshi ,bantu or a Goat can usurp that.

Because Somali means the land-culture and race. Somali is not a fucking jacket worn by non-Somalis to suit an economic or political opportunity

 

[Mudug-Madman]

Its true , Bantu's went from a measily population of 80.000 to over 3 million according to recent UN estimates.

Source: http://www.hiiraan.com/pdf_files/2015/UN/N1528750.pdf

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Those account for Bantus only in the Jubba region, not shabelle or the ones living in camps which brings the estimate up to almost 3 million.

I'm not arguing their population, I'm arguing their growth. 80,00 to 1 million in 25 or so years is impossible, especially when those years were rough years consumed by civil war and intermittent droughts and man-made famines. Those conditions are not conducive to regular population, much less that ridiculous growth rate cited earlier in the thread. Bantus are human beings, not bunny rabbits.

 

[Dhabaal]

I'm not arguing their population, I'm arguing their growth. 80,00 to 1 million in 25 or so years is impossible, especially when those years were rough years consumed by civil war and intermittent droughts and man-made famines. Those conditions are not conducive to regular population, much less that ridiculous growth rate cited earlier in the thread. Bantus are human beings, not bunny rabbits.

I hear ya i was scratching my head thinking the same thing. But that is the Government and UN estimate before the civil war of 80.000 and the one recently by the UN monitor report making them almost 3 million collectively.

It is not totally surprising since Bantus are mostly farmers, and lived deep in the souths fertile regions. So they weren't really heavily impacted by the drought unlike Somali pastorial nomads and were not directly involved in the conflict. Farmers have high fertility and low mortality rates.

Whats funny to note Raxanweyn Somalis who are also farmers is the biggest Ethnic Somali clan in Somalia and their population went up as well in comparison.

 

[OmarLittle]

I'm extremely surprised that a well majority of the people on here have a positive view of Bantus living in Somalia.

 

[Kalshaale]

How can any of you fucking hypocrites claim to be Muslim? Your black asses trying to be racist to another African being is not only un-islamic, but outright disgusting and embarrassing.

 

[The Cushitic One]

She's as much of a Somali as any of us mate. In fact, I'd say even more. Most of us have abandoned somalinimo (I for one) but she still wears the identity with pride. Plus, her people have lived in Somali territory (Somalia never existed before 1960) for centuries.
Be happy, she's representing.

Correction the Bantu arrived as freed slaves in Somalia in the mid 19th century. Somali is a ethnic identiy and not a nationality they will never be native ethnic Somalis but rather Bantus

 

[Duchess]

I'm extremely surprised that a well majority of the people on here have a positive view of Bantus living in Somalia.

Just as long as they stay south of Rocca Littorio.

 

[Mudug-Madman]

Just as long as they stay south of Rocca Littorio.

I saw a surprising amount of Bantus in Garowe when I was there.

 

[The_Cosmos]

Correction the Bantu arrived as freed slaves in Somalia in the mid 19th century. Somali is a ethnic identiy and not a nationality they will never be native ethnic Somalis but rather Bantus

That's false, the Bantu population clearly predates the 19th century. Let's cut that Somali revisionist nonsense. The Bantu population aren't all from one specific place nor do they share a specific history. Some Bantus arrived during the great Bantu migration. Some arrived as slaves. One things for sure, the Bantu population predates the 19th century.

Also, it's a false notion to claim that the demonym 'Somali' is an ethnic identity. It's also a nationality. I mean, that should be self evident considering that there's a state called Somalia and its citizens are known as Somalis. Bantus therefore will be known by their nationali Somali, and their ethnic identity Bantu. Somali Bantu.