Somali guy refuses to let his children learn in af somali

[Samaalic Era]

There’s no point to people leading terrible lives just so they can improve their country. Somalia is behind every damn country in the world. The economy is trash, the people are starving, and the country is a war-zone. Somalis need to think more about their future. They should all leave as soon as they can.

So when your country is suffering, the first thought is to ditch and abandon rather than fix and improve.

Real men and women are known in times of hardships and you all traitors to Somaliya and Somalinimo

 

[Furioso]

So when your country is suffering, the first thought is to ditch and abandon rather than fix and improve.

Real men and women are known in times of hardships and you all traitors to Somaliya and Somalinimo

My country is Canada. I have never been to Somalia and don’t plan to ever step a foot in it.

 

[Jaydaan]

You can't seem to differentiate between learning in somali and learning somali as a mother tongue very different.

What jobs are there in Somalia? Not many. Most of those young people educated in Somalia will go on to university in places like Pakistan Malaysia china. They will have to re learn everything in English or at least get their English to a certain level.

So you saying give up in Somalias future and prepare all the kids to send them away to study abroad. Basically sponsorship. I’m all for private schools doing that. But Somalia’s government should not spend money on kids early education so other countries can benefit

 

[Mimir]

So when your country is suffering, the first thought is to ditch and abandon rather than fix and improve.

Real men and women are known in times of hardships and you all traitors to Somaliya and Somalinimo

Gabadhan waa khasaaro. Just leave her alone she's a waste of energy

 

[Samaalic Era]

My country is Canada. I have never been to Somalia and don’t plan to ever step a foot in it.

Complete khasaaro, how long do you think the west will accommodate Somalis

 

[VixR]

The truth does not correlate with the opinions of edgelords from twitter. Also, just because you think it's useless, doesn't make it so.

I was in Jigjiga last week and I didn't come across anybody who'd have agreed with you. I saw people are enrolling onto Somali heritage/poetry schools en masse. Maybe you should take a trip to East Africa before labelling the language useless.

It may not have much influence outside of Somaliweyn right now, but as the wheels of politics turn, so could the fate of Somali language/people.

Did you read the tweet? You’re conflating two different things. Somali heritage/poetry classes is specific to Somali, so of course it’s definitionally valuable in that context; but that doesn’t make it suitable for teaching with it in a school curriculum. It’s a fact that it’s not valuable outside its own context. That’s true for many languages, and it’s not something worth arguing about.

 

[Mimir]

It's better to know English than somali for their profession and career in the future.

Even a job in Somalia requires and prefers those that can read and write in English.

Learning in English will do far more for those students in Somalia. We are doing them a disservice for making them learn in somali.

It's absolutely ridiculous to thing somali as a language will be lost if we don't teach everything in Somalia.

Why do other Africans

Trust me saaxib. I live in Kenya and I'm witnessing this shit for myself.

The next generation of Kenyans will no longer speak their mother tongue.

 

[Jaydaan]

So what? Somalis are dying left and right in their own country. South Africa would be an improvement.

You sound dumb. Do you know the violence Somalis has faced in South Africa

 

[Furioso]

You sound dumb. Do you know the violence Somalis has faced in South Africa

You’re right. I haven’t done my research. I know nothing of what Somalis dealt with in South Africa. I retract it.

 

[scarecrow]

So you saying give up in Somalias future and prepare all the kids to send them away to study abroad. Basically sponsorship. I’m all for private schools doing that. But Somalia’s government should not spend money on kids early education so other countries can benefit

Somalia can benefit too.
Many of those educated abroad come back to rebuild with a good educational background.

Once Somalia is successful and rebuilds we need a educated population that can speak multiple languages to work for international investors in the country.

 

[RedStar]

Did you read the tweet? You’re conflating two different things. Somali heritage/poetry classes is specific to Somali, so of course it’s definitionally valuable in that context; but that doesn’t make it suitable for teaching with it in a school curriculum.

Do you not see the reason why they're learning Somali poetry? What's next after banning Somali in schools and unis? Who will preserve it? Who will safekeep and advance our already poorly documented language?

He literally lied in his tweet and you expect me to take him serious. The difference in spoken Somali, from north to south is so miniscule I swear I've got a harder time understanding people from Northern Ireland when they speak English

I'm not against the idea of teaching some things in English, but I can't understand why we have to completely disown our mother tongue. Can you not see where that leads? You're already complaining about the inadequacy of the language, imagine the effect on the Somali society if we were to heed your advice...

 

[VixR]

Do you not see the reason why they're learning Somali poetry? What's next after banning Somali in schools and unis? Who will preserve it? Who will safekeep and advance our already poorly documented language?

He literally lied in his tweet and you expect me to take him serious. The difference in spoken Somali, from north to south is so miniscule I swear I've got a harder time understanding people from Northern Ireland when they speak English

I'm not against the idea of teaching some things in English, but I can't understand why we have to completely disown our mother tongue. Can you not see where that leads? You're already complaining about the inadequacy of the language, imagine the effect on the Somali society if we were to heed your advice...

No one said you have to disown it. You’re not looking at the big picture.

Somalia isn’t a multilingual country where people are forced to use English to mend the gap between having classmates and countrymen that speak a million different languages, so much that their mother tongue becomes secondary. They can speak Somali.

But it’s an obvious choice to teach in English early, and a strategic one. If anything, I’d go further and nix the secondary Arabic for Chinese. Somali, like most languages, is beyond the point of influence. That doesn’t mean you can’t teach Somali poetry. If such a course were up for grabs out here, I’d take it.

 

[AdoonkaAlle]

I've been waiting to see if the proponents of making english the medium of instruction could cite any worth while arguments to back up their views. So far the reasons stated are nothing but ideological constructs. They're ideological in the sense that english is set as the benchmark to achieve quality education, to acquire & produce knowledge , to attain better social & academic mobility etc.

A quick look around the globe will show that the above advantages associated with the english language are not unique to it as they're found in other languages as well. Meaning english is not functionally different from other languages and all languages can potentially be used for any form of human communication, acquisition & production of knowledge, including learning at all levels.

For many African primary school children, formal education in a foreign language amounts to an incomprehensible daily routine of choral repetition and copying from the blackboard without understanding. They're faced with two challenges learning english and subject content, as a result these children end up failing to master both and their mother tongues as well. This is a huge problem in africa yet proponents failed to mention or even account for it.

Having a foreign language as a medium of instruction has a massive negative impact on the local languages, since the local/native languages are relegated to subordinate positions in education and professional domains. In some instances , local languages are not only neglected, but also discouraged, a good example is the tweet from the guy who intends not to teach his children any somali due to the "inherent inferiority" of the somali language.

@scarecrow would you mind telling us what's proud about relegating afkeena to a subordinate position in education and professional domains ?? It's one thing to teach english as a foreign language but to elevate it to a medium of instruction in education and offer it as an alternative to somali is simply nonsensical. You end up creating more problems than solutions, you argue from a position of ignorance that lacks any self reflection and evaluation of the issue at hand.

If other people have succeeded in progressing their societies and quality of education system using their own mother tongues what's preventing us from doing the same ? The somali language is more than sufficient for us to address any issue, what's needed is for us to have kalsooni in who we are as a people, in our heritage and most importantly in our ability to utilise and take benefit from our language that Allah blessed us with. Allah created and destined for us to be part of the somali nation he has provided us with the all the necessary tools and means needed, if there's a lack then the fault lies with us and not with the blessing that Allah granted us. It's us who've failed to take benefit from the blessing.