Somali makes post claiming he is Arab on forum

[El Nino]

No he is not trolling. This has to be addressed. Somali clans like Daarood and Isaaq believed they are Arabs and acted Arab. They claimed to be of Arab descent and toyed with their own lineages to make them match their lies. Siad barre said at one point that daarood are descendants of Magaadleeh samale and Isaaq were known to be Dir by their elders (DNA proved both claims) but both clans had Ana Carab wannabes and started making up lies about us being Arabs and the result is a flood of ciyaal casiir who believed that. Btw most of them are going back to Somalia when their parents sponsorship is no longer valid and they will spread these lies like fire.

Did Siad Barre imply that darood were descendants of Magaadleh Dir? From what I remember there is no direct son of Samaale named Magaadle.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

You missed the main one @Arabsiyawi

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[NidarNidar]

His a dalit.

 

[NidarNidar]

It is not Daaroods alone although they lead the pack of the insecure somalis. All somali tribes claim to have Arab lineage. Issaqs iyagu they took a notch up and claim to be Syrians. Daaroods settled for some yemeni called Jabarti.

The main reason for this stupidity is lack of knowledge of their history and how Ethnically Somalis existed always in the horn as natives. The ancestors that gave birth to Somalis and some other horners spread outwards to Noth Africa becoming the Pharoahs, Southern Europe and to the Middle east. So the claim should be the opposite and that some Arabs with EV32 lineage are actually somali children.

Afwayne destroyed any sense of pride among somalis. There was no meaningful history taught in the schools.

E-M78 lineages spread south, it's origin lay in the border between Libya and Egypt, and as the sahara dried up moved further south, they then pushed into the horn within the last 3,000 years.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

It's obvious to anyone with common sense who has read the DNA results that all EV32 Somalis share the same ancestor. To please everyone and not offend people, we should call that ancestor 'Soomaali' and leave it at that. There is no way that anyone has an abtiris from the bronze age, 3000 years ago. Come on now.

 

[AbwaanDameer]

It's obvious to anyone with common sense who has read the DNA results that all EV32 Somalis share the same ancestor. To please everyone and not offend people, we should call that ancestor 'Soomaali' and leave it at that. There is no way that anyone has an abtiris from the bronze age, 3000 years ago. Come on now.

I have a serious question if we all actually have same ancestor why do we still fight each other ?

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I have a serious question if we all actually have same ancestor why do we still fight each other ?

1. We've been fed lies about who we really are
2. Mismanagement of water and grazing resources

I really think the truth would set Somalis free and make them more relaxed around each other. All we will have then, is different political ideologies, and that we can resolve through the voting booth.

Our only 'beef' should be Centralism vs Federalism vs Confederalism vs Independence. Not qabiil x vs qabiil y.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

I remember when Somalispot was full of people like that.

 

[Rayaale]

@AppleCrumble @Chaseyourdreamzz @Rayaale @Nur_ @Araabi

Some of these niggas are a lost cause

We went from proud people to cucks begging other people

 

[Rayaale]

I’m so sorry but unless those ciyal casiir are muwalads they don’t do up ”ana carab”, most of them end up hating arabs after living in their countries the few religious ones are the exception

It’s a mix some a proud Somalis some are wannabe ana Arabs

 

[Gacmeey]

Nacam ana min beesha barakaysan ee banu hashim. Waryaa carab naxnu boqortoyo

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

It's obvious to anyone with common sense who has read the DNA results that all EV32 Somalis share the same ancestor. To please everyone and not offend people, we should call that ancestor 'Soomaali' and leave it at that. There is no way that anyone has an abtiris from the bronze age, 3000 years ago. Come on now.

3000 years ago ain’t that long ago Hawiye was mentioned by ibn battuta 1000 years ago. Irir samaale makes much more sense than claiming Al jabarti from Yemen. Darood love creating juicy lore they will simultaneously say that they were the civilisation of punt which was 2500bc meanwhile their shared ancestor died in the 1200s. Which is why I believe first somalis wuz Hawiye.

 

[NidarNidar]

3000 years ago ain’t that long ago Hawiye was mentioned by ibn battuta 1000 years ago. Irir samaale makes much more sense than claiming Al jabarti from Yemen. Darood love creating juicy lore they will simultaneously say that they were the civilisation of punt which was 2500bc meanwhile their shared ancestor died in the 1200s. Which is why I believe first somalis wuz Hawiye.

First Somalis were Hawiye and Dir, it was a confederation.

 

[AbdiBashirJR]

First Somalis were Hawiye and Dir, it was a confederation.

By dir do you mean Isaaq? Dir alone are minority I doubt they’d be that small if they existed that long

 

[NidarNidar]

By dir do you mean Isaaq? Dir alone are minority I doubt they’d be that small if they existed that long

Dir is vast, my friend, but its people have been scattered far and wide. Between the Issa, Gurgura, and Gadabuursi alone, there are an estimated 4.5 to 6 million spread across three countries. Each of these groups is a sub-clan of Dir, yet the fragmentation of the clan predates even the 16th century.

And that’s without even mentioning the Isaaq, who branched off around 800 years ago. The Dir have a deep and complex history, shaped by migrations, shifting alliances, and evolving identities over the centuries.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

First Somalis were Hawiye and Dir, it was a confederation.

The first Somalis were not just Hawiye and Dir.

 

[Nur_]

First Somalis were Hawiye and Dir, it was a confederation.

That doesn't make sense. Qabil is just a weird man made system. We all come from the same population. Genetically we are all the same. Over time, folklore that may or may not be true has been passed down. Darood might have been Yemeni, so what? That's one man who made zero impact on our genetics at all. We're all the descendents of original Somalis, even if one man a couple thousand years ago popped up from elsewhere.


The British Royal Family are mostly German and French but you don't see them running around claiming their one French ancestor.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

That doesn't make sense. Qabil is just a weird man made system. We all come from the same population. Genetically we are all the same. Over time, folklore that may or may not be true has been passed down. Darood might have been Yemeni, so what? That's one man who made zero impact on our genetics at all. We're all the descendents of original Somalis, even if one man a couple thousand years ago popped up from elsewhere.

It's impossible! No Somali is descended from Yemenis. Most Somalis are paternally EV32 or T. NOT J1/J2 aka the Semitic gene.

That disgusting origin story must end immediately. The only Somalis descended from Arabs are few in number and mostly know their origin roots such as the Arab Salah and few others.

 

[NidarNidar]

The first Somalis were not just Hawiye and Dir.

Since Islam arrived in the 7th century, there has always been a prevailing zeitgeist shaping Somali identity. However, there seems to be a form of historical amnesia regarding the period before Islam, mistaking clan founder Arabs or reshaping it to get closure to Islam for prestige.

 

[SixthAbdi]

Since Islam arrived in the 7th century, there has always been a prevailing zeitgeist shaping Somali identity. However, there seems to be a form of historical amnesia regarding the period before Islam, mistaking clan founder Arabs or reshaping it to get closure to Islam for prestige.

Never understood how a cultural amnesia could have taken place, how is there no documentation? Considering there's sabean inscriptions in the North they have had to been exposed to writing at some point prior to Islam.