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[Angelina]

Thinking About Pregnancy After Age 35? 3 Issues to Consider

More women are becoming pregnant later in life. Some will be first-time mothers, while others are having another child.

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Risks of Pregnancy Over Age 30 - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center

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Getting pregnant in your 30s

Get the facts on getting pregnant in your 30s. Find out what your chances are of getting pregnant, what the pros and cons are to having a baby in your 30s,…

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Your chance of conceiving in a cycle in your early 30s is about 35 per cent (based on the average annual rate of pregnancy per cycle). This is only slightly lower than your chances of getting pregnant in your late 20s.

Risks of Pregnancy Over Age 30 - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center

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Even the sources YOU posted tell us that in your early 30s it is only slightly lower.

There isn't a significant difference. That comes about at 36+.

 

[Angelina]

Men's sperm weakens earlier st 35 ,it peaks also around 30.

At the end of the day everything is qadr. But I find it funny how men are very quiet about that but want to talk about the issues that arise in having kids at 30+ only when it comes to women.

Women even if they marry really early, have always had children in their 30s. I doubt any of the guys here can say their mothers wasn't giving birth well into their 30s, unless they have a small family.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of common sense floating around. Even if we women all got married at 21, most of us who are healthy will still be having kids at 30 and 9/10s the kids are completely healthy.

 

[Taij4an]

Your chance of conceiving in a cycle in your early 30s is about 35 per cent (based on the average annual rate of pregnancy per cycle). This is only slightly lower than your chances of getting pregnant in your late 20s.

Risks of Pregnancy Over Age 30 - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center

www.urmc.rochester.edu

Even the sources YOU posted tell us that in your early 30s it is only slightly lower.

There isn't a significant difference. That comes about at 36+.

I never said there is a significant difference but there clearly is a difference, plus the time it takes a women to concieve, assuming she wants multiple children and she family plans, she will be having her 2nd and 3rd and even 4th child in her late 30s to early 40s
Unless she is only having 1 child and can guarantee she is fertile enough to get pregnant within very early 30s
Im not against women marrying in their 30s or even 40s bc Islamically as long as its due to a good reason(like not being able to find a partner or life situation didnt allow it) then there is no clear evidence to say it is wrong
The prophet ﷺ married older woman and never told people not to do that or to not have children with them either, in fact its still encouraged to have children at older ages

 

[Angelina]

I never said there is a significant difference but there clearly is a difference, plus the time it takes a women to concieve, assuming she wants multiple children and she family plans, she will be having her 2nd and 3rd and even 4th child in her late 30s to early 40s
Unless she is only having 1 child and can guarantee she is fertile enough to get pregnant within very early 30s
Im not against women marrying in their 30s or even 40s bc Islamically as long as its due to a good reason(like not being able to find a partner or life situation didnt allow it) then there is no clear evidence to say it is wrong
The prophet ﷺ married older woman and never told people not to do that or to not have children with them either, in fact its still encouraged to have children at older ages

Saxib, a woman can legit have 4 kids in her 30s. Most westerners get married at 28- 30 and have at least 3 kids.

A woman getting pregnant at 30 is only slightly lower so if she's healthy getting pregnant isn't an issue.

Also, its a dumb conversation to have as your Somali. Somali mums have at 3 more kids past 30 as we're from big families.

 

[Taij4an]

At the end of the day everything is qadr. But I find it funny how men are very quiet about that but want to talk about the issues that arise in having kids at 30+ only when it comes to women.

Women even if they marry really early, have always had children in their 30s. I doubt any of the guys here can say their mothers wasn't giving birth well into their 30s, unless they have a small family.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of common sense floating around. Even if we women all got married at 21, most of us who are healthy will still be having kids at 30 and 9/10s the kids are completely healthy.

The problem is the western tradition is to start having kids 12 years later than you normally would, this causes alot of problems in the long run for society, although we will have to just stay patient on the negative effects because it is only gonna get worse

 

[Indeed]

Your chance of conceiving in a cycle in your early 30s is about 35 per cent (based on the average annual rate of pregnancy per cycle). This is only slightly lower than your chances of getting pregnant in your late 20s.

Risks of Pregnancy Over Age 30 - Health Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center

www.urmc.rochester.edu

Even the sources YOU posted tell us that in your early 30s it is only slightly lower.

There isn't a significant difference. That comes about at 36+.

Why are you comparing late 20s to early 30s? Late 20s your fertility is already in decline, why don’t you compare late teens early 20s to early 30s? Plus you just admitted that fertility does decrease in late 20s or shall I be more precise at 30. In your previous post you said it “starts at 36”. Now for once you actually read those sources rather than using your “emotions”, which made you admit it and I thank your excellency and your sincerely for proving me right.

 

[Taij4an]

Saxib, a woman can legit have 4 kids in her 30s. Most westerners get married at 28- 30 and have at least 3 kids.

Yes but there is more likely chance of health complications for both her and her children, there is no point in doing that if you could have them earlier,
if you have children and you decide to have more in your 30s that is fine because you already had children when your were at the peak age to have children,
the problem is everyone delaying past their peak age and choosing a less favourable age
and if we want to have alot of children which we should then starting in your 30s is not a good idea,
also most ppl in the west have 1.7 children on average, this is basically gonna eventually destroy society.
The probem isnt just having kids in 30s, the problem is the entire culture, and having kids late is just one problem which contributes to a wide variety of problems which will eventually cause you many problems

 

[Angelina]

The problem is the western tradition is to start having kids 12 years later than you normally would, this causes alot of problems in the long run for society, although we will have to just stay patient on the negative effects because it is only gonna get worse

Ideally, getting married younger is better. Only reasons why is mostly difficulty finding someone and again this is mostly because we've lost our sense of community and we don't match make like we should. Also, economic reasons as well.

However, scare mongering is just dumb. A woman at 30 is only slightly less fertilile and can have back to back kids with no issues.

Your chance of conceiving in a cycle in your early 30s is about 35 per cent (based on the average annual rate of pregnancy per cycle). This is only slightly lower than your chances of getting pregnant in your late 20s.

Why are you comparing late 20s to early 30s? Late 20s your fertility is already in decline, why don’t you compare late teens early 20s to early 30s? Plus you just admitted that fertility does decrease in late 20s or shall I be more precise at 30. In your previous post you said it “starts at 36”. Now for once you actually read those sources rather than using your “emotions”, which made you admit it and I thank your excellency and your sincerely for proving me right.

Nope, show me data that in your late 20s you're in decline significantly?

I always knew it does. But its slight. Similar to how your sperm qualities slightly goes down in your 30s as well. Yet this isn't a conversation you want to have right?

I used the word significantly throughout my exchanges with you. If you can't read, just say so.

 

[Indeed]

No wonder why autism, Down syndrome, birth defects etc is increasing in the west, particularly in the Somali community. No wonder

 

[Taij4an]

However, scare mongering is just dumb. A woman at 30 is only slightly less fertilile and can have back to back kids with no issues.

I don't agree with the scare mongering I'm just giving more info on the issue

But getting married late and having kids late really is not a good culture at all we need to fix it

 

[Taij4an]

No wonder why autism, Down syndrome, birth defects etc is increasing in the west, particularly in the Somali community. No wonder

Nah theres more too it, its probably something to do with the western environment we live in, there are multiple factors, ppl had kids in there 30s in the past and there wsa no down syndrome, it is a new phenonm

 

[Angelina]

Yes but there is more likely chance of health complications for both her and her children, there is no point in doing that if you could have them earlier,
if you have children and you decide to have more in your 30s that is fine because you already had children when your were at the peak age to have children,
the problem is everyone delaying past their peak age and choosing a less favourable age
and if we want to have alot of children which we should then starting in your 30s is not a good idea,
also most ppl in the west have 1.7 children on average, this is basically gonna eventually destroy society.
The probem isnt just having kids in 30s, the problem is the entire culture, and having kids late is just one problem which contributes to a wide variety of problems which will eventually cause you many problems

What do you mean no point?

Women have always given birth in their 30s. This is why I find this conversation dumb and just down right scare mongering.

People never had contraceptives and women can't turn of or on their fertility, so they would be getting pregnant well into their late 30s and even early 40s until menopause.

 

[Taij4an]

What do you mean no point?

Women have always given birth in their 30s. This is why I find this conversation dumb and just down right scare mongering.

People never had contraceptives and women can't turn of or on their fertility, so they would be getting pregnant well into their late 30s and even early 40s until menopause.

Did women start giving birth in their 30s in the past?

 

[Angelina]

No wonder why autism, Down syndrome, birth defects etc is increasing in the west, particularly in the Somali community. No wonder

Do you blame Somali men? You do know that fathers contribute a lot right?

Why do older men have higher odds of fathering children with autism?
The most prominent hypothesis is that the sperm of older men has accumulated many spontaneous mutations that the men pass along to their children.

The link between parental age and autism, explained

Older men and women are more likely than young ones to have a child with autism, but this connection is not straightforward.

www.google.com

 

[Taij4an]

most prominent hypothesis

 

[Angelina]

Did women start giving birth in their 30s in the past?

No, but they still gave birth well into their 30s.

If giving birth in our 30s is an issue, then what is the solution? Why talk about it if women will still give birth in their 30s either way?

What is the point of saying giving birth in your 30s causes XYZ when even if women marry at 21, they will still have kids past 30 if they want a big family?

 

[Indeed]

Mens sperm start decreasing after 45 not 30. And plus you can’t compare mens sperm to womens egg. A man if he is healthy can get a lady pregnant well into his 60s and 70s, even in the 80s with a healthy child. You can’t say the same with women. Eggs rapidly decline, sperm quality declines slightly after 45.

 

[Taij4an]

Do you blame Somali men? You do know that fathers contribute a lot right?

Why do older men have higher odds of fathering children with autism?
The most prominent hypothesis is that the sperm of older men has accumulated many spontaneous mutations that the men pass along to their children.

The link between parental age and autism, explained

Older men and women are more likely than young ones to have a child with autism, but this connection is not straightforward.

www.google.com

In the study I mentioned it says only older men with older women
If older men go with younger women the problem subsides according to evidence
but this is all speculation,
@Indeed cannot make this conclusion that marrying late gives ur chidren autism and u shouldnt get married late, there is so much missing information in this topic to be using it as a point for ur argument, maybe in 30 years we will know the true cause for autism

 

[Taij4an]

No, but they still gave birth well into their 30s.

If giving birth in our 30s is an issue, the what is the solution? Why talk about it if women will still give birth in their 30s either way?

Im arguing on a seperate point to indeeds here
I don't think women should get married and start having children in their 30s.
I am not blaming all women though because not everyone has the privilege of getting married young

 

[Angelina]

Mens sperm start decreasing after 45 not 30. And plus you can’t compare mens sperm to womens egg. A man if he is healthy can get a lady pregnant well into his 60s and 70s, even in the 80s with a healthy child. You can’t say the same with women. Eggs rapidly decline, sperm quality declines slightly after 45.

You mentioned autism ect. We're not just talking about fertility here as fertility officially ends at 45 for women.

You're being disingenuous and you're being a troll. There is no denying that quality of sperm reduces as one ages.

If you truly had an issue with actual health of children, you'd have an issue with these odeys marrying young girls. Yet you probably don't.