Somalia demands an apology after UAE calls FGS an interim government

So calling out the foreign influence (which the are part of) without publicly mentioning them was respectful way of saying back off. But they publicly call our government illegitimate. There is no private diplomacy after that. We absolutely deserve an apology.

Why are you so hell bent on defending these people. You think the UAE will take you disrespecting them like this. Like if we called their monarchy illegitimate.
Stop with the “without publicly mentioning it” it was clear as day who it was aimed at. Let’s not act naive here. My point was prior to all of this it should’ve initially been done in private and in a diplomatic manner.

I’m not defending anyone. I just see it as FGS takes a jab at UAE and then UAE jabs back and then FGS then calling foul and demanding an apology.
 
There's also the angle that the September political agreement that Parliament passed stipulates that the acting admin continues on until election takes place, this is to avoid a power vacuum incase of political disagreement. Thats why International Community still recognizes this Government.
Exactly, these people are driven by their hatred and narrow clan interest they're willing to destroy everything. Wallahi that scares me more than what they accuse Farmaajo of. Like what the hell are you bringing me, everything you say about him you're 100 times worser.
 
Stop with the “without publicly mentioning it” it was clear as day who it was aimed at. Let’s not act naive here. My point was prior to all of this it should’ve initially been done in private and in a diplomatic manner.

I’m not defending anyone. I just see it as FGS takes a jab at UAE and then UAE jabs back and then FGS then calling foul and demanding an apology.
What diplomacy when they are actively hostile and trying to cause chaos. It was aimed in general but they feel the need to be aggressive. What do you want us to do, beg and grovel at their feet.
 

AbdiGeedi

To keep your balance, you must keep moving.
Stop with the “without publicly mentioning it” it was clear as day who it was aimed at. Let’s not act naive here. My point was prior to all of this it should’ve initially been done in private and in a diplomatic manner.

I’m not defending anyone. I just see it as FGS takes a jab at UAE and then UAE jabs back and then FGS then calling foul and demanding an apology.
If it was so simpleton to just be straighforward, there would be no need to diplomatic etiquette. It exists for a reason.
 
No there is contingency in place already to avoid a power vacuum and chaos which they undoubtedly want.
No there is no contingency. Let’s not lie here. The only way of a legitimate contingency would’ve been to legally getting an extension from Parliament which for whatever reason Farmaajo was unsuccessful in.

What we now have is Government past it’s mandate who are still say they’re legitimate and an opposition who even doesn’t recognize the government. If anything the impasse itself causes chaos.
 
No there is no contingency. Let’s not lie here. The only way of a legitimate contingency would’ve been to legally getting an extension from Parliament which for whatever reason Farmaajo was unsuccessful in.

What we now have is Government past it’s mandate who are still say they’re legitimate and an opposition who even doesn’t recognize the government. If anything the impasse itself causes chaos.
UN Rep after Feb 8th confirms there is no power vacuum/illegitimate government

I guess you missed this post. Too bad even the UN disagrees with you. Unfortunately for you, you will not get the civil war you want.
 
What diplomacy when they are actively hostile and trying to cause chaos. It was aimed in general but they feel the need to be aggressive. What do you want us to do, beg and grovel at their feet.
Since when was diplomacy begging and groveling? You have a very skewed outlook on politics I must say. If the FGS felt UAE or any other nation was undermining Somalia sovereignty the first step would be to actually speak to the nation directly in private in a diplomatic way. That’s what nearly all countries do.
 

AbdiGeedi

To keep your balance, you must keep moving.
Since when was diplomacy begging and groveling? You have a very skewed outlook on politics I must say. If the FGS felt UAE or any other nation was undermining Somalia sovereignty the first step would be to actually speak to the nation directly in private in a diplomatic way. That’s what nearly all countries do.
Not true. Many countries use generally veiled foreign affairs statements to send a message without implicating the offending side. It is just a diplomatic tool.
 
Not true. Many countries use generally veiled foreign affairs statements to send a message without implicating the offending side. It is just a diplomatic tool.
What’s not true? That many countries use diplomatic talks to try resolve issues? At least know what you’re taking about saying it’s not true doesn’t make it so
 
Since when was diplomacy begging and groveling? You have a very skewed outlook on politics I must say. If the FGS felt UAE or any other nation was undermining Somalia sovereignty the first step would be to actually speak to the nation directly in private in a diplomatic way. That’s what nearly all countries do.
Where is the diplomacy on their side. What gives them the right to actively interfere and cause conflict.
We were very respectful even after all those transgressions and made a general statement. They still publicly attacked us, what diplomacy is there other than grovelling and begging.

After all the transgressions you're blaming the gov for having a backbone and demanding an apology.
 
You're the one agreeing with UAE and calling the gov illegitimate. What's the next stage after that, what do the 'going back to 91' fanboys want.
So because I state the government is past it’s mandate that I somehow want a civil war? Does your brain not filter the shit that you say :mahubowtf:
 

AbdiGeedi

To keep your balance, you must keep moving.
If you think most countries don’t speak in private Whether that be through a delegate or directly diplomatically and then you are very naive. What’s not true about your point is:
As I said it's a tool in the diplomatic arsenal of many countries to send a message. It is not always about direct talks. Your view is very simplistic and doesn't reflect reality.
 
As I said it's a tool in the diplomatic arsenal of many countries to send a message. It is not always about direct talks. Your view is very simplistic and doesn't reflect reality.
Ok I’ll flip that around and say it’s not always about diplomatic statements either. By your own logic your view is very simplistic and doesn’t reflect reality
 
So because I state the government is past it’s mandate that I somehow want a civil war? Does your brain not filter the shit that you say :mahubowtf:
You are actively pushing the gov is illegitimate angle and supporting UAE. There is only one consequence I see the people pushing that angle. The objective is to create a power vacuum. Stop acting dumb.
 

AbdiGeedi

To keep your balance, you must keep moving.
Ok I’ll flip that around and say it’s not always about diplomatic statements either. By your own logic your view is very simplistic and doesn’t reflect reality
Every situation calls for specifically tailored action. Just like in your personal life, you won't always run up to somebody to discuss and resolve issues in face to face scenario. Often times it is best not to confront, but mention generally so that the other side can be made aware and stopped from acting up.
 

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