Somalia Says No To Continued Ethiopian Presence Past 2024 And Quint Partners Concur

Pastoralist

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Anyone who hasn’t should read about AUSSOM and their intentions for Somalia. They are going to be more hands on with Somalia diplomatically and they plan to stay MUCH longer than atmis which was just a transition. Reer xamar aren’t shy of foreigners except for Ethiopia so for them it might be something to celebrate, but for me, it’s bad news.
 
I found a statement by Qatar that makes no mention of the matter. Can't find another statements by the other members.

We have recent statements by the US State Department and US military leaders both positive about Ethiopia's role in Somalia's security, so this seems counter.


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The US Ambassador to UN at the UNSC meeting today on the situation in Somalia made this statement:


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Anyone who hasn’t should read about AUSSOM and their intentions for Somalia. They are going to be more hands on with Somalia diplomatically and they plan to stay MUCH longer than atmis which was just a transition. Reer xamar aren’t shy of foreigners except for Ethiopia so for them it might be something to celebrate, but for me, it’s bad news.
As long as Ethiopia and the previous African countries aren't apart of it I'm not too worried. So far, only Egypt and Djibouti are apart of the new mission.
 
The xabashi are scared shitless of Egypt coming to the regions bordering them that they went and cried about it to the US. It’s an easy fix tho. Uganda will replace them in those regions and Egypt will still send 5k to train and equip the SNA.
 

Thegoodshepherd

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Neither the US nor the UN can force Somalia to host the troops of a country that has made clear its intention to violate the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia. If Culusow says Ethiopia must leave Somalia, they have to leave Somalia. If Culusow says leave and they don't, the only path open to Somalia is war.

Of course this is all theoretical. The MOU is dead and Ethiopia poses no danger to Somalia. If there was a serious danger to Somalia's sovereignty & territorial integrity, Culusow would have reconciled with Puntland in January.
 
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The US Ambassador to UN at the UNSC meeting today on the situation in Somalia made this statement:


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The US is speaking facts. They know that the FGS doesn't have the neccecary troops to keep Baay Bakool and Gedo Shabaab free if Ethios leave. They are spot on about there being a gap in the security in the region.

Also Americans and English are both situated in KGS, so they won't allow for their own security to be jeaporsided if Al shabaab take control of the region.
 
Neither the US nor the UN can force Somalia to host the troops of a country that has made clear its intention to violate the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia. If Culusow says Ethiopia must leave Somalia, they have to leave Somalia. If Culusow says leave and they don't, the only path open to Somalia is war.

Of course this is all theoretical. The MOU is dead and Ethiopia poses no danger to Somalia. If there was a serious danger to Somalia's sovereignty & territorial integrity, Culusow would have reconciled with Puntland in January.

UNSC acting under chapter 7 can do what they want.

So FGS who needs peace keepers because they can't fight a war is going to fight a war against the peace keepers. The logic is missing.

Math What GIF by Riki Barker
 
That is why the Egyptians are coming there. It doesn't matter to America who is parked in KGS as long as they are apart of the peacekeeping mission. Ethiopia is furious about being replaced by Egypt.

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Completely wrong as usual. The US line appears to be Somalian tensions with Ethiopia is no excuse for changing Ethiopia out for Egypt or anyone else. Begggar can't be choosers no matter how hard you cry.
 
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Completely wrong as usual. The US line appears to be Somalian tensions with Ethiopia is no excuse for changing Ethiopia out for Egypt or anyone else. Begggar can't be choosers no matter how hard you cry.
Doesn't matter. Egypt's request to join AUSSOM has already been accepted by the U.S and UN. Why hasn't the same been done with Ethiopia? That's right, because Somalia says they don't want them. Best case scenario for Ethiopia is to keep some unauthorized troops in Gedo but those could be swiftly kicked out anyways.

Egypt has more or less checkmated Ethiopia at this point. Not only will Egyptian troops be situated directly near Ethiopia's borders, but all its neighbors are on Egypt's side or leaning towards Egypt. Habashis are fucked.
 
Doesn't matter. Egypt's request to join AUSSOM has already been accepted by the U.S and UN. Why hasn't the same been done with Ethiopia? That's right, because Somalia says they don't want them. Best case scenario for Ethiopia is to keep some unauthorized troops in Gedo but those could be swiftly kicked out anyways.

Egypt has more or less checkmated Ethiopia at this point. Not only will Egyptian troops be situated directly near Ethiopia's borders, but all its neighbors are on Egypt's side or leaning towards Egypt. Habashis are fucked.

Hasn't though.
 
Already accepted by the AU aka UN proxy organization and confirmed by El-Sisi.

The AU doesn't authorize the mission and they only welcomed the offer - they didn't say they accepted the offer.

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The US made their position clear on 2 occasions now they used the same language about not replacing Troop contributing countries.
 
Neither the US nor the UN can force Somalia to host the troops of a country that has made clear its intention to violate the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia. If Culusow says Ethiopia must leave Somalia, they have to leave Somalia. If Culusow says leave and they don't, the only path open to Somalia is war.

Of course this is all theoretical. The MOU is dead and Ethiopia poses no danger to Somalia. If there was a serious danger to Somalia's sovereignty & territorial integrity, Culusow would have reconciled with Puntland in January.
Hypothetically what could Somali do if Ethiopia refused to leave. I genuinely believe the FGS would fold. They fear becoming a failed state more than keeping there sovereignty.
 

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