Somalia's Golden Age?

[AbrahamFreedom]

The religious/cultural class who rule Somalia and the diaspora are not long term strategic thinkers. They don't care about the future, only the present and akhira, which is fine but they should not ostracize the secular or open minded visionaries and allow them to build the institutions and develop industries. It's these people who have the drive and passion to transform the country. Look at that secular Awdal man from Minnesota. So brilliant... but they told him to get lost. You people are dreaming that there will be any progress with these people in charge. You think Hassan Sheikh and Bihi and Madoobe have vision? There is a famine coming and we are yet again told to pray to Allah to solve this problem. No town even has proper postal/address system and its of course Somalis have different priorities: acting like part time Muslims and eat and sleep and bang and that's it. The average Somali is thinking about setting up another mosque when there are already 10 within walking distance. The secular western educated Somali is thinking of ways to put health and safety or building code standards. Another who is passionate about making Somalia a net food exporter. Another with a way to eliminate corruption. Big difference.

 

[GemState]

Adeer Axmed missed on reverting the bulk of habeshas, currently only 20% of amharas are muslim and less in tigrayans (not sure). Would have fixed a lot of the clusterfuck present in HoA today.

A Muslim majority HoA in a federation, one nation between the Horn and Sudan. What could have been

 

[HoodHawiye]

believe me when i say that the best is yet to come for our lil slice of heaven

 

[angelplan]

Golden age on the Horizon. Keep up the faith

 

[El Nino]

A Muslim majority HoA in a federation, one nation between the Horn and Sudan. What could have been

Arriving to Lalibela and hearing the adhaan

Christians in HoA should have been in a similar situation as copts in Egypt, luckily in the next 25 years all will change.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Before Siad Barre ruined everything. I think that would be the general consensus between Somalis.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Pre colonial because it’s vague could be anytime between 9,000 BCE to 2nd millennium BCE to 1880

This.

For example;

The 10th Century Byzantine Script formed the basis of the Periplus of the Erythrean Sea era. In that script, Somalia was internationally known for trade, Puntland's area at the time, was called the "Cape of Spices".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periplus_of_the_Erythraean_Sea#Date_and_authorship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosylon

 

[Thebluesomali]

The religious/cultural class who rule Somalia and the diaspora are not long term strategic thinkers. They don't care about the future, only the present and akhira, which is fine but they should not ostracize the secular or open minded visionaries and allow them to build the institutions and develop industries. It's these people who have the drive and passion to transform the country. Look at that secular Awdal man from Minnesota. So brilliant... but they told him to get lost. You people are dreaming that there will be any progress with these people in charge. You think Hassan Sheikh and Bihi and Madoobe have vision? There is a famine coming and we are yet again told to pray to Allah to solve this problem. No town even has proper postal/address system and its of course Somalis have different priorities: acting like part time Muslims and eat and sleep and bang and that's it. The average Somali is thinking about setting up another mosque when there are already 10 within walking distance. The secular western educated Somali is thinking of ways to put health and safety or building code standards. Another who is passionate about making Somalia a net food exporter. Another with a way to eliminate corruption. Big difference.

Don't care, keep that secularist bullsh*t in the West. I would rather Somalia starve for the rest of eternity before we leave the path Allah has set for us. Secularism goes against everything we stand for.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Don't care, keep that secularist bullsh*t in the West. I would rather Somalia starve for the rest of eternity before we leave the path Allah has set for us. Secularism goes against everything we stand for.

Of course you'd watch your own people starve. Many are OK with this, especially if they're from another clan. Yet another famine and yet another time to beg gaalo for food aid. Stop begging the west for aid then if you people don't want secular educated elite running your society.

 

[abayoqurux]

did somalis even exist pre colony

 

[abayoqurux]

did somalis even exist pre colony

jk!

 

[medjourtine]

This is an easy answer for someone from Puntland (Majeertenia and Hobyo Sultanate) so 17th-19th century was the greatest period, with the higher level of civilisation for those who lived within the system of our Boqor (this is not what I opine but what scholastic work has shown).

The logical advancement of our people is for us to return to Sultanates. Each returning to our own sultanates and which ever sultanate/region develops best and naturally grows will gain the most land and thus be most dominant across the Horn. The nation-state is the easy way out, it doesn’t show who really is the most advanced. There is a great book called The State in the Third Millennium by Prince Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein, where he talks about surrounding regions being abled to vote in to joining monarchs/sultanates. I guarantee if we have this method (which is being implemented by Liechtenstein today), we would have a dominant monarch and a powerhouse in the Horn.