Apollo
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Your only two options:
A) Stay a nonentity in a choatic region, forever. Yes, forever.
B) Help create peace and work under the Mogadishu regime.
You have no other option.
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Your only two options:
A) Stay a nonentity in a choatic region, forever. Yes, forever.
B) Help create peace and work under the Mogadishu regime.
You have no other option.
Waranle
Top Mali in the 6ix
A third option is to prepare financially and militarily for a military campaign and start a war that will end with us in Mogadishu.Independence will be achieved by the sword.Many of your civilians will die but this is the fault of your govts.
War is the only option and Xamar doesn't even have an army and Pubtland can't even afford to pay their mere 10,000 troops in time.Hargeisa will have the upper hand.The war must happen before Shabab is destroyed or during inter war period between your southern states.
Once we got what we want we will return back home and enjoy our independence.Unlike you we are not power hungry we just want self rule
C) If there is enough bloodshed in a war, the international community could impose a referendum to settle it. It's not in their interest for the Somali region to be in perpetual war, and Somaliland indendence movement is not likely to be soothed unless...
D) Somalia's entire political structure could change, which would make union more enticing. Your B is an oxymoron, there can be no peace under a 'Mogadishu regime'.
Also this entire thread is a minefield of retardation, hate and fantasy. I'm ashamed of you all.
Apollo
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Those are idealistic zero probability options.
Waranle
Top Mali in the 6ix
Unified Somalia is an idealistic zero probability.Who is this nigga kidding?
Somaliland agreeing to 'work towards peace under mogadishu regime' is most unrealistic.
Right this second, yes, but not over the coming years.
Agree to disagree.
Right this second, yes, but not over the coming years.
Agree to disagree.
Apollo
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It is idealistic in the minds of Somalis.
It is realistic according to the USA, EU, and AU.
The global trend is towards unification and regional blocs. It is absolutely impossible that they will support an essentially tribal state at this stage of global politics.
Also, the idea of a bloody inter-ethnic war is not my ideal.
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Waranle
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The AU,EU and America won't do shit unless somehow you guys convince them we are ISIS.They won't support either side militarily but I have a feeling Ethiopia will have a large role to play if war between Somaliland and fragmented Somalia were to break out .You actually think Ethiopia will let you take Berbera.you lost your mind buddy
Damn I thought you were one of the caadi ones, just a bad day I guess
Those were my genuin political views sxb though I don't support the innocent women and children killed in this operation. I would prefer if politicians and military personal were killed
Apollo
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Ethiopia is subservient to the AU and the USA. According to the regional balance of power principle they won't allow it to become any more powerful than it already is.
Kinda feel sorry for you guys and your unrealistic hopes at self-determination. It aint gonna happen buddy.
Waranle
Top Mali in the 6ix
Shabab ain't going anywhere and neither is amisom.But I don't feel sorry for you cause faqash deserve it.Inshallah more inter south wars will continue like between Pland galmudug and other new states that have been popping out every two weeks.Your future looks very very bleak
Apollo
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Eventually the Southern conflict will end. Al-Shabaab is not going to win, they will be defeated.
It is less bleak than Somaliland who are forever handcuffed into obscurity and irrelevance.
Ethiopia is the country in Africa that has the USA in it's back pockets. The Tigray regime understand the art of deception very well and they'll always have the support of the USA in any sensible decisions they plan on taking and believe the tigrays have no shortage of sensibility. The USA doesn't tolerate what it classifies as 'near pear competitors' which means the USA will bring down any entity that seeks to dominate its own part of the world with out first seeking approval from the USA's global hegemony. Guess what? Ethiopia plays by the rules of the game and they'll continue to do so.
In regards to the Ethiopia & somaliland alliance then what you have to understand is that this an alliance of two tribes: the Tigray tribe which dominate the federal Ethiopian government and the Isaaq which are currently the strongest military in what is known as 'Somalia'
The Ethiopians have a brotherly alliance with us because we guarantee their internal security and are willing to support the Tigray tribe if Ethiopia were to end up in a civil war. Also somaliland has made it clear it seeks no ambition into the Ogaden region which is why Ethiopia in 2015 gave somaliland legal authority to cross into the Ethiopian border In Order to hunt down any ethnic somali that is a threat to somaliland, this agreement was reached by somalilands minister of interior minister warancade last year.
In war between somaliland and the Mogadishu administration I think you know who Ethiopia is allied to and willing to support both militarily and diplatically in order to smoothen any negative reactions the USA could possibly take against somaliland. The African Union is also in Ethiopias back pocket
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This story is totally not true, hargeisa is a metropolitan city and it is the only Somali city you will find everyone in, the djibouti attackers came through hargeisa from Ethiopia on their way to Djibouti, the woman was jaarso and the man was ciise.
Secondly Mogadishu mooryan have repeatedly lied about the identity of terrorists several times, they stole a innocent persons Facebook pictures and said he was a suicide bomber when he was alive and well and he gave an interview.
Thirdly we can't trust what Reer hawiye because they said a man with southern accent was from burco. When investigated there was no one by that name.
Most likely is that hawiye is doing this to get more aid from international community
I say move the capital to Bosasso
Secondly Mogadishu mooryan have repeatedly lied about the identity of terrorists several times, they stole a innocent persons Facebook pictures and said he was a suicide bomber when he was alive and well and he gave an interview.
Thirdly we can't trust what Reer hawiye because they said a man with southern accent was from burco. When investigated there was no one by that name.
Most likely is that hawiye is doing this to get more aid from international community
I say move the capital to Bosasso
Apollo
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@7ONE7
Ethiopia won't be your saving grace.
While their leaders have pretty much total control over what happens inside Ethiopia, they have zero control over what happens internationally. When it comes to Somalia they more or less follow orders from ''higher ups'' (AU, EU, and USA).
If a quarter century is not enough to wake you knuckleheads up, perhaps a full century is.
Ethiopia won't be your saving grace.
While their leaders have pretty much total control over what happens inside Ethiopia, they have zero control over what happens internationally. When it comes to Somalia they more or less follow orders from ''higher ups'' (AU, EU, and USA).
If a quarter century is not enough to wake you knuckleheads up, perhaps a full century is.
Waranle
Top Mali in the 6ix
Very detailed response to this clueless Amun.
Apollo
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Keep waiting. You will die and Somaliland will still not be a country.
Waranle
Top Mali in the 6ix
Dissing the same Ethiopia that occupies your land and dictates to Sheikh Dameer what he can and cannot do.You should be more worried about Gabre then fighting Isaaq you qabilist bastard
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