Somaliland Opens 30-year-old Mass Graves From Civil War

[Lord Flacko]

Somaliland has a status qou and tensions within it's own borders though a lot less than Somalia. The peace I'm describing is one more long-term stable phase, where an agreement between the South and SL can be discussed for border delimitation and issue of minority clans, who do want to be a part of an independent SL state, cut off from Somalia. Settling issues such as that will cause long-term peace, and not just a short-term status qou. Reconciliation is needed to bring closer to the families who have lost and admission of fault from the Somali state to the people affected by the atrocities, and it reduces future tensions and potential war to.

On the latter point, I have never said that SL needs to initiate but that we need a collective truth and reconciliation committee such as South Africa, don't put words in my mouth just because they'd be more convenient for you. Morgan walking freely is what happens when neither side will meet for reconciliation efforts, and the true hypocrisy is that the war-criminal muse bihi is not only walking freely but is allowed to run for President of SL and expected to win. It is as you said, a two-way street and both sides must hold their criminals accountable.

At its core reconciliation is a two way street as I said, but in terms of Somalia-Somaliland the ball lies in Somalias hand. This is why I supported Faarmajo saying he would be willing to pay reparations to the Somaliland people, but actions always speak louder than words.

It is Somalia who betrayed Somaliland and has to win them back in every way except war if they want them back.

 

[Lixle]

Oh how low they've fallen...

who's they? do you ever say something that makes sense you qabyaalad ridden air-head ?

more over you're ogaden wtf do you know about isaaq civil war kkk

 

[Hemaal]

If you don't want reconciliation then what is the point of bringing it up? It is very traumatizing for those who's family members witnessed this stuff going on (like in the Al Jazeera documentary) so I understand if you don't want reconciliation, so then it should just be laid to rest and not talked about again. S/Land can move on, keep developing and having peace, but stop mentioning other Somalis as if we were the reason for the lives lost when everyone was affected all be it in different ways.

I think reconciliation is necessary so people can feel at peace and justice has been served. I really believe that if there was a truth and reconciliation commission like South Africa, it would be better as a whole for all the Somali territories (excluding Jabuuti) because then we'd make the right steps in letting go of clan grievances and hatred.

Proper burial for starters! Does it look like we want reconciliation? That ship has already sailed, it's a testament of what another union would cost us! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!

 

[Lord Flacko]

No one should take somaliland serious. they can't even hold an election and they are trying to investigate a crime which happened 26 years ago

How in the hell did this even happen ?

Lets not forget the habar vs habar war. How about you go investigate that war

Only one true Habar reigns supreme and it's neither of those :siilaanyolaugh:

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[Hemaal]

Qolomaad tahay?

Habar yonis!

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Habar yonis!

Then talk like it.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

At its core reconciliation is a two way street as I said, but in terms of Somalia-Somaliland the ball lies in Somalias hand. This is why I supported Faarmajo saying he would be willing to pay reparations to the Somaliland people, but actions always speak louder than words.

It is Somalia who betrayed Somaliland and has to win them back in every way except war if they want them back.

The current Somaliland is not the successor state of the British Somaliland.

 

[Assata]

who's they? do you ever say something that makes sense you qabyaalad ridden air-head ?

more over you're ogaden wtf do you know about isaaq civil war kkk

Not a damn thing.


But I do know we're not foreigners.


You guys actually think you're a different ethnicity from the rest of us???
Y'all have lost your damn minds.

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Then talk like it.

So now clans have their own way of talking?

 

[Hemaal]

Then talk like it.

Like a dirty Waqooyi?

 

[Gambar]

Proper burial for starters! Does it look like we want reconciliation? That ship has already sailed, it's a testament of what another union would cost us! Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!

I didn't even mention a union. I think that was a Freudian slip on your part waa na ku riyootay and you probably took me saying there should be reconciliation as saying S/Land should be in the union (even though legally it is so that's not even up for discussion until it is recognized). If you want a proper burial, in my opinion the family's should be consulted and it should be done in an islamic way, perhaps a memorial should be built as well.

 

[jugjugwacwac]

So now clans have their own way of talking?

Well yeah they do. He said he's Habar Yoonis, and his clan the Garxajis (Habar Yoonis & Ciidagale) generally do not subscribe to the victim-hood narrative and many of them are unionists or at least sympathetic to the idea.

 

[waraabe]

Well yeah they do. He said he's Habar Yoonis, and his clan the Garxajis (Habar Yoonis & Ciidagale) generally do not subscribe to the victim-hood narrative and many of them are unionists or at least sympathetic to the idea.

Except when it comes to muuse biixi?

 

[jugjugwacwac]

Like a dirty Waqooyi?

No, like a man. Not like a women who was raped and is now too terrified to leave her house.

 

[Gambar]

can you please bring the evidence that muuse biixi is a war criminal?

The people who claim he committed war crimes against their clan are the ones who are propagating it.

 

[waraabe]

The people who claim he committed war crimes against their clan are the ones who are propagating it.

Who is that then

 

[Steamdevolopment]

Well yeah they do. He said he's Habar Yoonis, and his clan the Garxajis (Habar Yoonis & Ciidagale) generally do not subscribe to the victim-hood narrative and many of them are unionists or at least sympathetic to the idea.

That doesn't mean he has to be. Some from my clan wants to be a part of Ethiopia, I disagree vehemently with that.

I can see where he is coming from even when I disagree.

 

[Gambar]

Who is that then

Ask your Isaaq clansmen.

 

[Lixle]

Not a damn thing.


But I do know we're not foreigners.

You guys actually think you're a different ethnicity from the rest of us???
Y'all have lost your damn minds.

delusional for you to think somalia has a monopoly on the use of the word somali. find me one somalilander that will deny being a somali for me to take your question seriously

i use the word foreigner in the sense that you're not from the blessed republic

 

[waraabe]

@Steamdevolopment can you stop avoiding the question and bring me evidence of muuse biixi being a war criminal