I believe Imru'l Qais's praise of it includes these reasons
Somalis and Horses
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Better endurance and survivability. This horse needs extremely little care. Its very good for its size sxb and its no slouch ppl hunted antelopes with this. An arab horse would die before this one in a drought
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Emir of Zayla
𝕹𝖆𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖔𝖋 𝕻𝖔𝖊𝖙𝖘
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Arabian horses have been selectively bred for thousands of years, even predating the ‘Arabs’. There was even an ancient Mesopotamian manual on horse breeding/training found which is where Arabian horses are thought to originate. If Somali horses were selectively bred then you could essentially make them have whatever characteristics you want, just like any other horse.
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@Step a side @Libaax-Joore @DR OSMAN I heard your Murursade horses are just a genetic offshoot of MJ horses same as you are 
Maybe this is the final key to the puzzle 
Maybe this is the final key to the puzzle
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No offence saxib but your history is very short and can’t be compared to mine. We inherited our horse riding culture from our ancestors at Hobat. The oldest feral horses in Sub Saharan Africa today are known as the Kundudo pack named after the town Kundudo or Qundhura . Hawiye and Karanle are both buried at Qundhura today.@Step a side @Libaax-Joore @DR OSMAN I heard your Murursade horses are just a genetic offshoot of MJ horses same as you are
qabriga xajihawiye iyo Karanle
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You see how I provided all kinds of sources from different angles? Furthermore I can take you on a visit to Qundhura /Kundudo so you could meet your ancient ancestors.
Here is Italian ecologist and professor Marco Viganno on Qundhura. His works are used by the Ethiopian official travel guide.
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Kundudo- Qundhura horse. Oldest feral horses in Sub Saharan Africa.
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Kundudo horse - Wikipedia
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You aren’t denying my claims here but are instead deflecting into impertinent subjects which I will show to be false. First let’s use your own words against you. The ‘sunaari’ you are referring to are from the north which is where your horses came from according to your own words. It's interesting that it's only really Murursade that have a horse-riding history down there. The horse breed you are referring to came from the Sunaari per your own words and not this Kundudo pony you are referring to so why even bring it up? Clear deflection attempt.No offence saxib but your history is very short and can’t be compared to mine. We inherited our horse riding culture from our ancestors at Hobat. The oldest feral horses in Sub Saharan Africa today are known as the Kundudo pack named after the town Kundudo or Qundhura . Hawiye and Karanle are both buried at Qundhura today.
qabriga xajihawiye iyo Karanle
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You see how I provided all kinds of sources from different angles? Furthermore I can take you on a visit to Qundhura /Kundudo so you could meet your ancient ancestors.
Here is Italian ecologist and professor Marco Viganno on Qundhura. His works are used by the Ethiopian official travel guide.
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The so-called Kundudo ‘horse’ you are referring to is characterized by the wiki you cited as ‘Kundudo horses, with their unattractive morphology and suffering from consanguinity, were occasionally captured and put to ploughing work by a local farmer, who also sold the foals.’
Damn. I won’t even get anymore into this random ‘horse’ you cited. It's not even meant for riding like the sunaari but instead sounds like a work-horse or plow horse lmao.
Spurious claims.Finally, let’s talk about history. All Somali horses are named after me sxb. This is from the
'International Encyclopedia of Horse Breeds'. It is the definitive horse breeders manual. Here is what it says about all Somali horse breeds:
Majerteen, Nugaal, Dor(Dharoor Valley, Bari). Those are the only extant Somali horses or 'Sunaari'. Which one does the Murursade horse descend from? They all come back to the horses of the ancient PL kingdom sxb.
Finally: some pictures for you of our beautiful and healthy wild horses:
No offense sxb, don't take this personally or get angry. I have nothing against your tribe or what we have given to you in terms of heritage or culture, but I think i'm onto something and I think you know it too
TL:DR, Murursade horses descend from PL horses per your own words, and may be a big clue to Murursade ancestry as well. How did our horses get down there to you and only you and why do you seem to be genetically related to the people who owned the horses your horses descend from? No other Hawiye has this significant history of horsemanship. That is a huge clue. If it was all Hawiye it would be a different story but of-course we are talking about horses and not donkeys, no offense. Perhaps some Puntlander ‘conquistadors’ went down there with their horses just like the Spaniards in Latin America
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lol The current status quo with these DNA studies showing MJ being the 3rd “lost” brother of Sabti and Forculus must have gotten to your head. Imagine the so- called mighty Majerteen has been proven to be equal and parallel to both his brothers Sabti and Forculus on the genetic tree who themselves are like 20+ generations younger than Murusade-Waadeere-Karanle. What makes it worse is that the 3 (Sabti, MJ, Forculus) are connected further up on the family tree to Gurgaarte tribes like Hiiraab and Madhibaan. Despite knowing all this I keep it humble and continue testing more clans unlike you who tries to escape the reality by comparing horsesYou aren’t denying my claims here but are instead deflecting into impertinent subjects which I will show to be false. First let’s use your own words against you. The ‘sunaari’ you are referring to are from the north which is where your horses came from according to your own words. It's interesting that it's only really Murursade that have a horse-riding history down there. The horse breed you are referring to came from the Sunaari per your own words and not this Kundudo pony you are referring to so why even bring it up? Clear deflection attempt.
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The so-called Kundudo ‘horse’ you are referring to is characterized by the wiki you cited as ‘Kundudo horses, with their unattractive morphology and suffering from consanguinity, were occasionally captured and put to ploughing work by a local farmer, who also sold the foals.’
Damn. I won’t even get anymore into this random ‘horse’ you cited. It's not even meant for riding like the sunaari but instead sounds like a work-horse or plow horse lmao.
Finally, let’s talk about history. All Somali horses are named after me sxb. This is from the
'International Encyclopedia of Horse Breeds'. It is the definitive horse breeders manual. Here is what it says about all Somali horse breeds:
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Majerteen, Nugaal, Dor(Dharoor Valley, Bari). Those are the only extant Somali horses or 'Sunaari'. Which one does the Murursade horse descend from? They all come back to the horses of the ancient PL kingdom sxb.
Finally: some pictures for you of our beautiful and healthy wild horses:
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No offense sxb, don't take this personally or get angry. I have nothing against your tribe or what we have given to you in terms of heritage or culture, but I think i'm onto something and I think you know it too
TL:DR, Murursade horses descend from PL horses per your own words, and may be a big clue to Murursade ancestry as well. How did our horses get down there to you and only you and why do you seem to be genetically related to the people who owned the horses your horses descend from? No other Hawiye has this significant history of horsemanship. That is a huge clue. If it was all Hawiye it would be a different story but of-course we are talking about horses and not donkeys, no offense. Perhaps some Puntlander ‘conquistadors’ went down there with their horses just like the Spaniards in Latin America
I mean why else would you force this stuff on a horse thread? You do know fkd is not allowed on this sub forum right?
All Southern kingdoms used horses including the mighty Geledi and its predecessor Ajuuraan. The difference is that us Murusade have kept the culture of horse riding till this day. Even MJ don’t ride horses the way we do regardless if the horses were named after you. Heck even the Karanle’s from Iimey were recorded to have large numbers of horses
All Hawiye have northern origins and we know this through oral history, written history (Al Idrisi mentioned them to live as far north as Ras Xaafuun), including burial sites of patriarchs like Abgaal and Gareen Ajuuraan. Heck you have Murusade tribes living in Baabili and Dir Dhabe till this day
Medieval Portuguese maps shows Hawiye (Aiaua) held an important polity where the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea converged. I can guarantee you any money that you are those Hawiye
As for horses, you are showing me wild horses from your region while I am actually showing you the ‘oldest feral horses’ in SSA that so happen to be located at Qundhura the burial site of my ancient ancestors Karanle & Hawiye. Their poor stature is due to several reason. I will copy and paste from Wikipedia
The population also shows low genetic diversity,[12] the lowest of all Ethiopian horse populations studied.[23] It is likely that these horses have undergone a phenomenon of genetic drift, due to the low number of founder individuals, isolation over a long period of time, and the absence of crossbreeding with horses of external origin.
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What's a price of a horse?
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You mean in Somalia? Not sure but in Dayniile Mogadishu I heard they start from $1000 at the bare minimum.
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How much for a camel?
