I see Moroccon and Algerian two Arab countries near to me. Arab=somalis
If you think Maghrebi women are predominantly Arab on a genetic level, then I don't know what to tell you, mate.
Somalis genetically closer to the Arabs than black.
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If you think Maghrebi women are predominantly Arab on a genetic level, then I don't know what to tell you, mate.
Why are you mentioning women? When did I even say women?
Why are you mentioning women? When did I even say women?
Because you have a whole bunch of light-skinned ajanabi women appreciation threads on here, which leads me to believe that your desperate running away from the black identity in favour of the Arab one has more to do with you thinking with your third leg moreso than any real proof of Somalis being Arab-adjacent on a genetic level.
Enough with your repetitive "Are Somalis more black or more Arab?" threads. You've made too many of them. Get new material, sxb.
Skintone is a LARGE identifier of race, and yours falls into the 60% DNA Somalis carry on average.
Trading and a few intermarriages here and there, doesn't make us 'mixed' with Arab. At best, we share an ancient forebear with them.
Cultural similarity, doesn't make us the same as them. We are our own people.
Integration, doesn't make us the same people. A camel that grazes with horses, is still not a horse.
We are just two groups of people, who share a common forebear, but are different.
Let's be proud to be Somali- full stop.
So what that doesnβt change the reality, we are definitely genetically closer to North Africans and Middle Easterners than madows, this is a fact
Feelings of inadequacy strikes again. I donβt care for race politics, donβt believe in the concept of race and If a Somali doesnβt want to see themselves as βblackβ thatβs on them but without fail, Somalis that scream publicly about not being βblackβ 9/10 times have an inferiority complex. Iβve said this in another thread and Iβll say it again, this is purely about the image of blackness in the world we inhabit. If black people were hailed in high esteem, these unhinged people that yap on about not being black would say theyβre black and proudly so. This is about their fragility with regards to the Somali identity. Thats why they go on about being closely related to other groups like NA and Western Asians since in their minds they have a better reputation and are seen as more civilized.
To carry on about their talks of being closely related to non black groups. The same people who have issues with blackness love to illustrate a connection to Arabs and Western Asians despite that only being 40-50% of their DNA whilst at least a whopping 60% of their DNA is SSA and their skin color is very dark like everyone in SSA.
I donβt care for madow unity and see Somalis as distinct from most other madow groups, but I say things how I see them. Many of them say dumb stuff like βour culture is differentβ. Since when do all of SSA have the same culture? Then they say racist stuff like βWe donβt have the cultural disfunctions they have nor as we gaal! !β Again since when do all black people have single parent homes, Zina, low educational attainment and since when are all madows gaal? At this point Iβm going to assume youβre low IQ and many of their takes comes from a place of being incredibly uneducated when it comes to the world around them. You hardly see well adjusted people talking this way, itβs usually the low achieving incels, redpillers and just the overall idiots in our community who feel the need to go public with their ignorance. Iβm not saying that you need to think of your self as βblackβ, I donβt even believe in race theory tbh but I simply accept that in the Western world WE migrated to, blackness is seen as someone of SSA origin whose people have dark skin. Going on about differences in culture makes you look like a fool. A whole continent of dark skin people of SSA origin arenβt obviously going to have the same culture. Black people have never been a monolith or homogeneous and viewing it in that way is deffo a white supremacist world paradigm.
To carry on about their talks of being closely related to non black groups. The same people who have issues with blackness love to illustrate a connection to Arabs and Western Asians despite that only being 40-50% of their DNA whilst at least a whopping 60% of their DNA is SSA and their skin color is very dark like everyone in SSA.
I donβt care for madow unity and see Somalis as distinct from most other madow groups, but I say things how I see them. Many of them say dumb stuff like βour culture is differentβ. Since when do all of SSA have the same culture? Then they say racist stuff like βWe donβt have the cultural disfunctions they have nor as we gaal! !β Again since when do all black people have single parent homes, Zina, low educational attainment and since when are all madows gaal? At this point Iβm going to assume youβre low IQ and many of their takes comes from a place of being incredibly uneducated when it comes to the world around them. You hardly see well adjusted people talking this way, itβs usually the low achieving incels, redpillers and just the overall idiots in our community who feel the need to go public with their ignorance. Iβm not saying that you need to think of your self as βblackβ, I donβt even believe in race theory tbh but I simply accept that in the Western world WE migrated to, blackness is seen as someone of SSA origin whose people have dark skin. Going on about differences in culture makes you look like a fool. A whole continent of dark skin people of SSA origin arenβt obviously going to have the same culture. Black people have never been a monolith or homogeneous and viewing it in that way is deffo a white supremacist world paradigm.
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Arenβt South Sudanese madow? Or are they no longer madow as it doesnβt fit your agenda? Weβre closer to South Sudanese than North Africans so no youβre technically wrong. Weβre more related to the blackest people of SSA than we are to a Moroccan. You can cry yourself to sleep.
Yes but theyβre mixed, they have a small amount of North African/Eurasian-like ancestry
Wrong, we are definitely closer to North Africans than to madows.
Fst distance with Bantus in Kenya is 0.058, with Egyptians itβs 0.037, Moroccans itβs 0.031, with South Sudan itβs 0.037
With Nigerians itβs 0.053
You're talking like an AA. Why do expect Arabs or anyone else to do shit for you? besides that, your lovely madow ppl have killed and robbed more Somalis than Arabs ever did.
This also wrong, as usual.
We are, at most 60% SSA-like, most studies put it at 55 but anyway some of that is coming from NORTH AFRICA, so in terms of actual SUB SAHARAN/Nilotic blood it is about 40-45%, we are 55-60% MENA
Its clear we are arabs, the only ones denying it is the ones with inferiority complex. The arabs themselves views us arabs.
Don't care who we're closer to genetically, dislike both.
Itβs incredibly tiny and if youβre gong to use mixture as some sort of indication for not really being black then AAs and Caribbeans arenβt proper black then as on average they have 20% European blood.
At this point Iβm going to assume you donβt really rationalize your arguments.
Show me actual links and Proofs of us being closer to NA than to Masaii for instance? Theyβre seen as black by the whole world.
The thing is, a lot of the Bantus of E Africa are mixed with Cushitic hence things are never going to clear cut. At this point, no one is black if youβre going to disqualify those that are mixed with Europeans like the AAs who are the poster child of blackness and Kenyan Bantus who are mixed with Cushitic who are seen as black.
What is a definition of being black?
Being situated in SSA
Having significant SSA blood
Being black of color.
By all parameters, youβre seen as black. Whether you accept it or not itβs your business.
Even the Prophet S.A.W referred to Ethiopians as black despite having even more W.Asian blood.
Your whole argument is fruitless. Blackness has always been associated with very dark skin and inhabiting Africa. No one cares if youβre 5% more SSA or less.
More Somalis have been killed by other Somalis than any other groups? So what now? How about we stop pointing the finger at Arabs and other black people like Langaabs and not base what we are based on who we feel treats us well.
Weβre Somali first and foremost and are seen as black by the wider world. You can accept it if you want or not accept it but jumping on social media like a nacas screaming youβre not black is silly.
Arabs see Sudanese who speak Arabic btw as a first language who also have more Arab DNA as black as well. Sudanese are Afro-Arabs a group who are seen as both black and Arab.
Donβt embarrass yourself. You havenβt a clue what an actual Arab sees you as.
Me a Daarood carab have no clue but Angelina caqliloow knows
Daroods arenβt of Arab origin. Go to the culture and history section to educate yourself. You donβt have the same haplogroups as Arabs. Youβre fully Cushitic.Me a Daarood carab have no clue but Angelina caqliloow knows
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