"Somalis lost their culture" "Somalis were Arabised"

balanbalis

Soomaaliweyn ha noolato
Does anyone know who started this balaayo? :damn::damn: The fact that people are starting to believe that Somalis abandoned their original culture to 'become Arabs' has to be a psyop.

You see Dhaanto festivals in the diaspora. Somali traditional music is still being created, and I have yet to see a Somali creating a song in Arabic Scale or with heavy Middle Eastern influence.

Here's a modern rendition of a beautiful old Somali song with traditional instruments:

Somali is the majority language with Somali equivalents for every Arabic, Italian, and English loan word.

Somalis dress in Dirac, baati, macawiis, hoos guunti, guuntino etc++ whenever I'm at home I'm in my baati the whole time. Even old attire is being brought back e.g. Jubbad (mind you, this has been continuously worn, just not on a large scale e.g. by Somali Sufis and Sultans).

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Here are some websites to support Somali cultural attire:
Dirac :https://www.soutelier.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooPnhmF9Zi1k5Fns-kr69GPaHSLQ5JBDglZXNJNe7K_zPMul8Jq
Modern inspiration of Hido iyo Dhaqan: https://dhaqancollection.com/
Jubbads: https://sabrstyles.com/ and https://21stcenturysultan.com/

Somalis eat Somali cuisine and take part in nomadic traditions. This video is only 7 years old:

There's so much more, but I wish this site would show more appreciation and spread more positivity about our dhaqan
 
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Taintedlove

Shaqo la'an ba kuu heysaata
When I say that, I mean in the west. Diaspora somalis especially in the UK highkey act like sheep for arabs and south asians. I don't blame them we are a minority with in a minority but it's sad how somalis here have no sharaf and allow these people to boss us around.

When some other people say this, they mean that Somalis back home no longer wear any of the cultural clothing you stated and just wear abaayas and thobes/khaamis now.
 

balanbalis

Soomaaliweyn ha noolato
When I say that, I mean in the west. Diaspora somalis especially in the UK highkey act like sheep for arabs and south asians. I don't blame them we are a minority with in a minority but it's sad how somalis here have no sharaf and allow these people to boss us around.

When some other people say this, they mean that Somalis back home no longer wear any of the cultural clothing you stated and just wear abaayas and thobes/khaamis now.
That is true, I'm a UK Somali and the last thing I want to do is give up my culture to please others

I wear Dirac for Eid and God forbid my future husband pulls up to our wedding in a bisht. By the time I want to get married the jubbad industry will have nice competitors to choose from lolol
 
I think somalis actually have a relativly lare culutral output in certain areas like music and poetry ( at least in comparison to the rest of africa) . There is also a rapidly increasing literary output ( translations , novels, memories, etc)
 
One thing I want to really see is somali anime which I think has real potential. I mean look at this somali gibli stuff I found in tiktok.



<blockquote class="tiktok-embed" cite="" data-video-id="7492242415512816918" data-embed-from="embed_page" style="max-width:605px; min-width:325px;"> <section> <a target="_blank" title="@gaariyay" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@gaariyay?refer=embed">@gaariyay</a> <p><a title="somalitiktok" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/somalitiktok?refer=embed">#somalitiktok</a> <a title="somali" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/somali?refer=embed">#somali</a> <a title="fyp" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/fyp?refer=embed">#fyp</a> <a title="viral" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/viral?refer=embed">#viral</a> <a title="foryou" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/foryou?refer=embed">#foryou</a> <a title="gaarida" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/gaarida?refer=embed">#gaarida</a> </p> <a target="_blank" title="♬ original sound - 𝖦𝖺𝖺𝗋𝗂𝖽𝖺 🧚‍♀️" href="https://www.tiktok.com/music/original-sound-7492242329806392086?refer=embed">♬ original sound - 𝖦𝖺𝖺𝗋𝗂𝖽𝖺 🧚‍♀️</a> </section> </blockquote> <script async src="https://www.tiktok.com/embed.js"></script>
 

balanbalis

Soomaaliweyn ha noolato
The Indian peninsular and the Persians have the same extensive trade history as us and yet they get to be their own people :stressed:
 

balanbalis

Soomaaliweyn ha noolato
One thing I want to really see is somali anime which I think has real potential. I mean look at this somali gibli stuff I found in tiktok.



<blockquote class="tiktok-embed" cite="" data-video-id="7492242415512816918" data-embed-from="embed_page" style="max-width:605px; min-width:325px;"> <section> <a target="_blank" title="@gaariyay" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@gaariyay?refer=embed">@gaariyay</a> <p><a title="somalitiktok" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/somalitiktok?refer=embed">#somalitiktok</a> <a title="somali" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/somali?refer=embed">#somali</a> <a title="fyp" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/fyp?refer=embed">#fyp</a> <a title="viral" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/viral?refer=embed">#viral</a> <a title="foryou" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/foryou?refer=embed">#foryou</a> <a title="gaarida" target="_blank" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/gaarida?refer=embed">#gaarida</a> </p> <a target="_blank" title="♬ original sound - 𝖦𝖺𝖺𝗋𝗂𝖽𝖺 🧚‍♀️" href="https://www.tiktok.com/music/original-sound-7492242329806392086?refer=embed">♬ original sound - 𝖦𝖺𝖺𝗋𝗂𝖽𝖺 🧚‍♀️</a> </section> </blockquote> <script async src="https://www.tiktok.com/embed.js"></script>
I'm wholly anti AI but I know some really good Somali artists, I was going to make a thread on them lol
 

balanbalis

Soomaaliweyn ha noolato
Do you have any Somali music recommendations?
Yesyes I love traditional Somali music genres like Dhaanto so much, I'll just quickly link a few of my faves (these are all on spotify btw)

Ali Dhaanto, he's my all time fav Dhaanto artist


Maryan Mursal, an amazing OG Somali Artist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHuOnXeU6-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-isjn2Bo5iI

Other Iconic Somali songs that a beginner should know:

A pan African song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQCVKHs-r2E&list=PLZO0pZLAA717QOWC9Zdimtbg7wvNWZJVd&index=3

Diriyam, an east African sensation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuQFpeDd0zA&list=PLZO0pZLAA717QOWC9Zdimtbg7wvNWZJVd&index=1

Two Dhaanto classics

Old popular Benaadir song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8vbWDgPBw&list=PLZO0pZLAA717QOWC9Zdimtbg7wvNWZJVd&index=9

Cabdi Qaadir's three popular songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNtXEWmUeg&list=PLZO0pZLAA717QOWC9Zdimtbg7wvNWZJVd&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Vq7-AsDCk&list=PLZO0pZLAA717QOWC9Zdimtbg7wvNWZJVd&index=6
 
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Taintedlove

Shaqo la'an ba kuu heysaata
The Indian peninsular and the Persians have the same extensive trade history as us and yet they get to be their own people :stressed:
It's since the civil war that these claims and observations began. Somalia used be quite insular as a culture and we were more distinct.

Also, girl, some people are trying to claim persians are the original arabs:chrisfreshhah:
 
Here's a modern rendition of a beautiful old Somali song with traditional instruments:
Y’all I’m sorry but is that lady bleached cuz omfg :Peaches2: :damnmusic:if so this ain’t helping your case omfggg that’s so crazy I AINT NEVER seen a Somali that pale, she a whole female Michael Jackson I didn’t know that was even POSSIBLE…. the bleaching epidemic gotta be crazy :Peaches: :Peaches3:
 

balanbalis

Soomaaliweyn ha noolato
It's since the civil war that these claims and observations began. Somalia used be quite insular as a culture and we were more distinct.

Also, girl, some people are trying to claim persians are the original arabs:chrisfreshhah:
I'm too much of a History nerd to not know that Persians are entirely different 💀💀💀 That's like claiming that the Russians are the original Turkics
 
When I say that, I mean in the west. Diaspora somalis especially in the UK highkey act like sheep for arabs and south asians. I don't blame them we are a minority with in a minority but it's sad how somalis here have no sharaf and allow these people to boss us around.

When some other people say this, they mean that Somalis back home no longer wear any of the cultural clothing you stated and just wear abaayas and thobes/khaamis now.
yh london is a weird one i think its because we were lodged together with them and london is a conformist society.
 

Taintedlove

Shaqo la'an ba kuu heysaata
I'm too much of a History nerd to not know that Persians are entirely different 💀💀💀 That's like claiming that the Russians are the original Turkics
Yeah but people these days think being Muslim= Arab or arab adjacent. It's so sad walahi. Every day, Muslims are becoming more intolerant of cultural differences and trying to force people into conforming with the dominant arab/south asian culture.
 

Espaa_

Ku sali nabiga {scw}
Does anyone know who started this balaayo? :damn::damn: The fact that people are starting to believe that Somalis abandoned their original culture to 'become Arabs' has to be a psyop.

You see Dhaanto festivals in the diaspora. Somali traditional music is still being created, and I have yet to see a Somali creating a song in Arabic Scale or with heavy Middle Eastern influence.

Here's a modern rendition of a beautiful old Somali song with traditional instruments:

Somali is the majority language with Somali equivalents for every Arabic, Italian, and English loan word.

Somalis dress in Dirac, baati, macawiis, hoos guunti, guuntino etc++ whenever I'm at home I'm in my baati the whole time. Even old attire is being brought back e.g. Jubbad (mind you, this has been continuously worn, just not on a large scale e.g. by Somali Sufis and Sultans).

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Here are some websites to support Somali cultural attire:
Dirac :https://www.soutelier.com/?srsltid=AfmBOooPnhmF9Zi1k5Fns-kr69GPaHSLQ5JBDglZXNJNe7K_zPMul8Jq
Modern inspiration of Hido iyo Dhaqan: https://dhaqancollection.com/
Jubbads: https://sabrstyles.com/ and https://21stcenturysultan.com/

Somalis eat Somali cuisine and take part in nomadic traditions. This video is only 7 years old:

There's so much more, but I wish this site would show more appreciation and spread more positivity about our dhaqan
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