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I've never come across so many qabilists at the same place as on this site. Taking pride in something they were never apart of. Who cares what your great great great great great grandfather accomplished in his life when you haven't reached anywhere in your own? In what way do his achievements affect your life? You aren't great because of your lineage but because you are YOU.

If we, Somalis, united as a people and didn't let qabyalad get in the way then our country would be in a much better state, but some just live for their clan which is sad. In the west, Somalis are discriminated against and targeted by racists, and even among ourselves do we hate on each other because of qabiil. Isn't that sad?

One of my dreams is to see my people united as one regardless of their clans and work for a better feature inshallah.
 
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There's a far, far, far better chance of a united Europe than a united Somalia. :camby:

At least Europeans share a common descent and are related by blood.

Realistically, if you truly want peace between the different groups of people living in the country then you would support the balkanization of the nation for that's where things are headed, and 15 different countries would be a lot more stable and peaceful than the unstable and chaotic mess that is Somalia today. :manny:
 
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Qabyaalad is just the tumor which needs treatment but the cancer in the somali nation is the lack of political representation that the average somali in Somalia have leaving much power in the hands of the corrupt(MPs), the incompetent(Elders) and the greedy(shady business mafia) and the unequal distribution of wealth where most of the resources and aid money are gobbled up by the former and the latter not leaving much for the average person in the country. People who have next to nothing to eat and who have no voice are easy recruitment material for unsavoury groups and militias.

There are legitimate concerns and grievances that the people have and because there is no other channel to adress these grievances but through qabiil, the system will stay in place until it finds an replacement. There is a way to adress however and that is through sincere reconciliation and attempts to bring people together. A carbon copy of western styled democracy won't work because the necessary social and material conditions aren't in place to support such a system but the focus should instead be to build one that works for the somali people by the somali people.

Last but definitely not least is that nationalism(somalinimo) isn't something that exists by default and shouldn't be confused with ethinc belonging, cultural customs and language which are only to be consider the attributes of nationalism but something one builds. To build such a nationalism requires a strong foundation, the building blocks that somali people need and that is political homogenity which is by far most important other type of homogenity in any nationalism because then it's premises is built on the fact that the people share the same interests. The problem today is that there aren't any relevant movement for such a thing because of that it's up to us(somali wadanis) to put our money where our mouth is and work to build such a movement, to build somalinimo.
 
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Jubba_Man said:
There's a far, far, far better chance of a united Europe than a united Somalia. :camby:

At least Europeans share a common descent and are related by blood.

Realistically, if you truly want peace between the different groups of people living in the country then you would support the balkanization of the nation for that's where things are headed, and 15 different countries would be a lot more stable and peaceful than the unstable and chaotic mess that is Somalia today. :manny:
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Preach!!!:mjpls:
 
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Jubba_Man said:
There's a far, far, far better chance of a united Europe than a united Somalia. :camby:

At least Europeans share a common descent and are related by blood.

Realistically, if you truly want peace between the different groups of people living in the country then you would support the balkanization of the nation for that's where things are headed, and 15 different countries would be a lot more stable and peaceful than the unstable and chaotic mess that is Somalia today. :manny:
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100s of different Somali tribal countries sound stupid tbh.
 
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Some people are just looking for a crutch. Can you blame them? They don't have a country to be proud of so they turn to the next closest thing. Soon they will be dividing by hair length/texture
 
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100s of different Somali tribal countries sound stupid tbh.
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What sounds stupid about countries needing to focus on economic development, having to have a mandate in feeding their population and job creation, creating their own industries of imports and exports out of necessity, and drafting up trade agreements and other agreements that would foster cooperation and actually act as a real control against pointless aggression and war.

You basically have different countries now within Somalia that are practically independent all but in name only, except they don't have any of the responsibilities to their people as they would if they were truly independent, and thus have nothing better to do than just spill blood of the neighboring countries and laundering money/corruption.
 
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Yemen also has tribal issues. You will see a guy stand up from his seat because another guy from a landhere qabil comes. People will give up their seat for you if you are from a landhere qabil.
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It's much more deep there than Somalia.
 
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Jubba_Man said:
There's a far, far, far better chance of a united Europe than a united Somalia. :camby:

At least Europeans share a common descent and are related by blood.

Realistically, if you truly want peace between the different groups of people living in the country then you would support the balkanization of the nation for that's where things are headed, and 15 different countries would be a lot more stable and peaceful than the unstable and chaotic mess that is Somalia today. :manny:
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:browtf:Europe is a continent, Somali is an ethnic group. Are you saying Somalis dont share a common descent or are related by blood?:childplease:
 
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He's not anti-Somali, he is anti-Somalia.
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He clearly is anti ethnic Somali. He hates the idea of the Somali ethnic group and conjures up fantasies about how the Somali ethnic group doesn't exist all the time.

Even ''Professor'' Omar Eno is reasonable compared to him. PS. The Anti-Somali was a pun on the Antichrist. :icon lol:
 
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He clearly is anti ethnic Somali. He hates the idea of the Somali ethnic group and conjures up fantasies about how the Somali ethnic group doesn't exist all the time.

Even ''Professor'' Omar Eno is reasonable compared to him.
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It's a means to an end. You can't destroy the idea of Somalia if the Somalis people still believe in the mantra of 'one people, one nation'.

I find him to be a lot less extreme than Eno and other Bantu revisionists.
 
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